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From Serious Eats: New York

Momofuku Ko: Does the Service Matter?

Though not a great one for formality, I do think it is important to be comfortable enough to enjoy your food. I'd love to try the food at Ko, and don't need to be pampered ,hovered over, or draped with fine linen. I don't need a long adjective-laden description of what I'm going to eat, and I'm happy to have whatever's being served. It all sounds like great fun.

But I can't hope to concentrate on/enjoy the food while sitting on a backless stool at a counter, because my back and legs will hurt the whole time. I know there are a lot of people like me in this regard, because I know many of them. personally. I guess it's so difficult to get in that another layer of exclusivity doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

But I think it would be a mistake to imply that any problem folks have with the setup is due to fussy pretentiousness or a need to be coddled. Real chairs are not extravagent- they have them at Bruegger's for heavenssake.

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

For a friendlt, delicious, inexpensive vietnamese meal- try Tram's in bloomfield.

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From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

I moved to pittsburgh 2 years ago and as a vegetarian, haven't always had the most exciting choices when dining out. For the first time in a long time, my own (retched) cooking has been more exciting. I know I can't compare it to New York, but either I need vegetarian suggestions or the city has an need and opening for this corner of the market.

Anyway some friends dragged me out this week to a bar/lounge called the Firehouse for a cocktail and appetizers and I was very excited by my options on the menu. I wasn't stuck with grilled cheese, a salad, or a veggie patty. The menu was tapas style, but I would have to say some of the best food in the city ( and a beautiful, extensive wine list to boot).

From Serious Eats: New York

Momofuku Ko: Does the Service Matter?

A great article, and obviously a restaurant with great food and talented chefs.

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"When I was thinking about Ko, I didn't think much about the service."
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But from an outsider (me), seeing this quote from the chef/owner is a bit troubling. And then to see him explain that he doesn't want good service to interfere with the "core values" makes it sound even worse. After all -- shouldn't good quality service be included as part of the "core values" ??

I get his point about the food. It's all about the food.

But shouldn't good service be a basic, fundamental element of most any long-term successful business, whether it's a fine restaurant or a muffler shop?

From Serious Eats: New York

Momofuku Ko: Does the Service Matter?

I had great service there at Ko, but i cannot compare it to four star restaurants because I've never been to one. Maybe some people expect too much? Some may have this idea that "I am paying for service!"

No, I am sorry. You are paying for a product, or the right to try a product. It just so happens that expensive restaurants care about service because they know they are expensive and want patrons to come back. The price is tied to demand and rent rates, not to how well they feel customer services is, and what ppl would put up with.

Experience is so tightly tied to expectations, and I had high expectations of the food, and it was such an enjoyable experience. Maybe I did not go in expecting to be pampered, and that helped.

From Serious Eats: New York

Momofuku Ko: Does the Service Matter?

I think I lucked out by having David Chang there when i went, but it was very friendly service. David was cracking jokes with us and when I asked him how they made some dishes he was happy to get into a discussion. At one point we had two other diners involved in a conversation and David was telling us a story, from the other end of the kitchen one of his sous chefs stated "good story Dave" and the place busted out in laughter for a few minutes. I acknowledge this was unique and not the norm, but it certainly was a very relaxed, casual atmosphere with the highest caliber of food - which in a sense was a mind trick of some sort and makes it so unique. Other experiences I've had at a dining counter range from TKC @ Beacon to Degustation or even just a sushi bar, but this was different than all of them (closest to Degustation, but better food). I'll save up for another meal later in the year, but I fully know my experience with the service may be better or worse. Kudos to the Ko staff for a 3 star review.

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

@susquehanna, regarding Bourdain:

Yes, I was really frustrated too. I guess that it was to be expected, with a young crowd of line cooks. Though I probably wouldn't mind having a beer with Tony, that is for sure! I think that he was probably slightly amused but I'm sure he thought it was a little obnoxious and was being gracious. I also, was a little too shy - the girl next to me asked a question. Although, after I got home, I thought of the perfect question: "Was the photo shoot in My Last Supper your idea?" :)

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

Thanks for the recommendations, I hope we can find some of them.

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

@Susquehanna:

My husband and I were at the Bourdain lecture last night too. I was also seated in the second balcony, right in front of a group of restaurant folk who were so rowdy they made it hard to hear his responses during the Q&A. I think anyone who has read his books or watched NR fairly often has heard what he had to say before, though he certainly has his schtick down pat! We did enjoy the lecture despite the lame Q&A.

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

please, for the love of all that is holy, visit Uncle Sam's Subshop in Oakland (near Pitt campus). I lived in Pittsburgh for 5 years, and now live in Philly, and I have to say Uncle Sam's steak and their fries kick Philly's "authentic" variety to the curb.

Spice Island is also in Oakland, and has pretty good Burmese/Thai/Chinese food. Tip: skip the noodles and get a curry or the 5 spice chicken, very very good and you won't pay more than $10 for a big meal. Also extensive tea menu.

Southside (Carson St) is great, lots of energy and interesting people, and amazing restaurants. Perfect place for a night on the town.

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

@Littlebluesiren: I was at Bourdain's lecture. Up in the second balcony. Weren't you frustrated with the audience's lame questions? Nobody asked about projects he may be developing, Top Chef, his best frenemy Ruhlman, or what it's like being a new dad. Shyness kept me from the Q & A mike. Wish I wasn't that way.

Anyway, the Pgh line cook contingent was out in full force! Can you believe how they were begging the man to go out for drinks with them or to "come back to my restaurant"? Do you think he was genuinely amused with this -- 'cause he was laughing pretty hard -- or was he just smitten with how pathetic the quality of the Q & A had become? Maybe it's a common thing at his public appearances.

@anybody: Did anybody else go to Bourdain's Drue Heinz lecture?

From Talk

Yeah. Pittsburgh.

I used to live in Pittsburgh in my 5 years at CMU and I just have to toss in my 2 cents about some of the places already mentioned:

1) Church Brew Works: Take the trip. Beautiful atmosphere, some very good food (I really enjoyed their venison meatloaf the one time I went), and some excellent beer as well. For me that's really something because I really don't like most beers!

2) Chaya: I went there numerous times with my friends when we decided that Friday night meant emptying our wallets and eating big. While you may have to wait for seating at dinner hours (usually crowded) it's worth it. Absolutely magnificent food, spot-on every time. The sushi boats are quite a sight to behold and are quite fresh.

3) Lulu's: Yup, a fine place for the collegiate crowd to go for some good Pan-Asian eats. Very reasonable prices, some excellent takes on old classics. I still miss their wonton soup quite a bit, mostly because it involved bonito broth instead as well as many other veggies and ingredients I usually don't expect. Quite flavorful!

Great, now I miss the ol' place. Guess I'll have to go back eventually to catch up with friends and food!