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Perogies at home
Ack! I forgot to mention the finely minced Bacon in the filling, and by fine I mean tiny tiny tiny!
Perogies at home
This is one of my specialties. I no longer really have a recipe for filling, I don't have proportions, it's all to taste, but the filling is:
Mashed potatoes
Well aged sharp Cheddar cheese
Finely minced caramelized onions
Finely minced Garlic
Salt and Pepper
Make this the night before and chill it in the fridge because it's easier to work with.
The next day, make your dough. The dough is thus:
5 cups flour
couple pinches of salt ( I THINK the recipie calls for a teaspoon)
1 egg
1 cup water
Oil.
What you do is mix your dry in a big bowl, and then crack the egg into a measuring cup. Mix the egg around some, then add enough oil to make one cup. Add your egg and oil mixture along with the cup of water to your dry ingredients and work it until it's smooth and doughy. Add extra water or oil if needed.
Let this stand for half an hour covered with a tea towel, and then break a piece out and roll it out. Roll the dough until just before you can see the table through it.
Cut your circles (or squares if you are conserving the dough), I use a wine glass for this and then peel all the excess dough and put it in a pile (more on this later). Peel each circle, put it in the palm of your hand shiny side up (that would be the side that had been stuck to your table) and put a small amount of filling in the middle of the circle and then pinch the outer edges TIGHT.
Place the completed Perogie on a floured cookie sheet, and once the sheet is covered in Perogies, put them in the freezer till they get nice and firm. Once they are nicely frozen, stick them in an ice cream pail or freezer bag, and take them out when needed.
The dough. DO NOT REUSE THE DOUGH YOU HAVE ROLLED! This is important, the rolled dough does not work well for whatever reason. I am not making this up, this recipie I remember making with my Great Grandmother, a grand old Ukrainian Baba, as well as my grandmother and mother, and this wisdom they have passed to me.
What you can do with the dough, and my family does, is boil it till it floats, drain it and then lightly fry it in butter or oil and use it to keep people from eating your work all day. And this is an all day job. I make usually 25-35 dozen in a day, depending on how early I get to start.
Too cook your perogie, just boil them from frozen until they float and then fry them in some butter and or oil until they are lightly crisped. Serve with baked Kielbasa sausage and some Heavy sour cream (not the non fat or reduced fat, that's just silly).
Now, you, and everyone else here has my family's recipe. This, as I said came from at least my great grandmother, who spoke little English, but still taught me and others how to make these delicious things. I've been doing this since I was...well I was in the single digits. My now 5 year old daughter helps me make them now (and boy does that make me a proud daddy that I could pass this down even further!)
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
Ignoring it, just like I did the bird flu and any other "Scare" done up to keep people distracted and afraid. It's BS.
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Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
No. I don't substitute for Butter, I won't use fake sugar in things, and I won't used fake milk either. Better to have a little bit of real food that tastes good and feels right in your mouth then have the fake stuff more often.
@kitchengeeking as to your splenda question, that stuff, like all the sugar substitutes I've tried leave my mouth feeling greasy. It seriously feels like I rinsed my mouth with bacon grease, then had a big glass of cold water. YUCK!
Perogies at home
Ack! I forgot to mention the finely minced Bacon in the filling, and by fine I mean tiny tiny tiny!
Perogies at home
This is one of my specialties. I no longer really have a recipe for filling, I don't have proportions, it's all to taste, but the filling is:
Mashed potatoes
Well aged sharp Cheddar cheese
Finely minced caramelized onions
Finely minced Garlic
Salt and Pepper
Make this the night before and chill it in the fridge because it's easier to work with.
The next day, make your dough. The dough is thus:
5 cups flour
couple pinches of salt ( I THINK the recipie calls for a teaspoon)
1 egg
1 cup water
Oil.
What you do is mix your dry in a big bowl, and then crack the egg into a measuring cup. Mix the egg around some, then add enough oil to make one cup. Add your egg and oil mixture along with the cup of water to your dry ingredients and work it until it's smooth and doughy. Add extra water or oil if needed.
Let this stand for half an hour covered with a tea towel, and then break a piece out and roll it out. Roll the dough until just before you can see the table through it.
Cut your circles (or squares if you are conserving the dough), I use a wine glass for this and then peel all the excess dough and put it in a pile (more on this later). Peel each circle, put it in the palm of your hand shiny side up (that would be the side that had been stuck to your table) and put a small amount of filling in the middle of the circle and then pinch the outer edges TIGHT.
Place the completed Perogie on a floured cookie sheet, and once the sheet is covered in Perogies, put them in the freezer till they get nice and firm. Once they are nicely frozen, stick them in an ice cream pail or freezer bag, and take them out when needed.
The dough. DO NOT REUSE THE DOUGH YOU HAVE ROLLED! This is important, the rolled dough does not work well for whatever reason. I am not making this up, this recipie I remember making with my Great Grandmother, a grand old Ukrainian Baba, as well as my grandmother and mother, and this wisdom they have passed to me.
What you can do with the dough, and my family does, is boil it till it floats, drain it and then lightly fry it in butter or oil and use it to keep people from eating your work all day. And this is an all day job. I make usually 25-35 dozen in a day, depending on how early I get to start.
Too cook your perogie, just boil them from frozen until they float and then fry them in some butter and or oil until they are lightly crisped. Serve with baked Kielbasa sausage and some Heavy sour cream (not the non fat or reduced fat, that's just silly).
Now, you, and everyone else here has my family's recipe. This, as I said came from at least my great grandmother, who spoke little English, but still taught me and others how to make these delicious things. I've been doing this since I was...well I was in the single digits. My now 5 year old daughter helps me make them now (and boy does that make me a proud daddy that I could pass this down even further!)
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
Ignoring it, just like I did the bird flu and any other "Scare" done up to keep people distracted and afraid. It's BS.
What's for Dinner? 08/28
Marinated Beef Skewers grilled to perfection, Grilled Corn on the Cob and some pasta with a tomato sauce.
Popcorn: Do You Err on the Side of Unpopped or Burnt?
I never make microwave popcorn. It tastes terrible. And I've perfected my stove top popcorn to the point where I get few unpopped kernels (depending on the quality and age of the corn itself) and am surprised and upset when it is burnt! BTW if you are making stove top popcorn the ONLY way to do it is with coconut oil!
California Eatin': Dutch Crunch in the Bay Area
@mmmassey Another winnipeger! WooT! Yeah, you can find dutch crunch in Safeway here from time to time, but in Thunder Bay Ontario where I went to school you could get it all the time. I just came back from groceries, now I want to go back and see if I can get a loaf of this for dinner, even if it is raining and the kids are down for a nap.
Weekend Cook and Tell: Play Sommelier
I Have a wine that nearly, if not totally impossible to find anywhere. MEAD! Yeas Mead, that delicious wine made from honey. I used to brew my own, but lost the space to kids. However one of my friends picked it up and he does a lot better then I. His stuff is magical, and pairs well with any dessert.
Happy Fathers' Day to all Dads! What's on the menu?
I am the dad in this house. For my Dinner I am Making big fat, juicy, Grilled Burgers. The kids and the wife are in charge of sides. I hinted I want onion rings, though that might be a trick to pull off. I figure to have a salad with that, and for dessert there is the last of the lemon meringue pie, and some strawberries. I thought about a black forest cake (my favourite) or rhubarb crisp (my favourite dessert) but I wanted to use the leftovers up.
Weekend Cook and Tell: Make a Meal for $10
Hmmmm Company for dinner saturday night, and Sunday is father's day. On the other hand, I do know what I could do, Cottage Pie!
1 lb Lean Ground Beef $2.69
Beef Bullion $1.00
Large onion $1.00
2 Stalks Celery $0.50
1 Can of Corn $1.00
2 Carrots $0.50
1 lb Potatoes $0.75
1 bulb Garlic(we eat lots of garlic in my house) $0.50
Grated Cheddar cheese $1.00
Butter, Sour Cream $1.00
Herbs (Free, leftover dried from last year's harvest)
$9.94
Of course I have everything needed for this on hand, but I culled prices from local flyers, or guestimated where I needed to. My numbers might be a little off, but yeah, that would feed my family for at least one meal, possibly dinner and lunch the next day. Throw in a loaf of homemade bread and it would easily make 2 meals.
Pizza toppings
Peperoni or Salami must be dry, and it has to be on top of the cheese. Other things can, and sometimes do go under, depending on the mood I'm in and the ingredient, but the meat MUST be on top
Sorbet Recipe - without an ice cream maker!
I cannot stand Bananas. Any suggestions on what to substitute in their place?
Costco and Big Box stores for food: way or no way?
way. all the way. I have a deep freeze and a vaccum sealer, and a costco card. Once a month I go to costco and do the majority of my shopping for the month. I still buy milk and bread from other stores, and the odd thing I only need tiny amounts of, but the vast majority of my shopping is done at costco.
Oprah, her Free KFC Coupon & New KFC Chicken...
@arm1970 While this is a cooking site, I feel I have to refute your comment. It takes as long to learn Linux and all it's ticks, while finding versions of your software that work with it, or alternatives that do what you want, as it does to learn how to properly care for your PC. Linux is a neat toy, and I'm told it's a good server, but it's no Desktop OS for everyday regular people.
As to the chicken, I'm in Canada, No free chicken for me. I MIGHT try it out after if I am hungry and KFC is nearby, but past experience has shown me that KFC isn't as good as it once was.
Banning fast food near schools? Your take.
I'm a Canadian, and likely one of the oddest ducks around here. I have a son and a daughter. at 4 years old, my daughter and I built her first computer. She has access to the internet. I spend part of my day on World of Warcraft, rather then watching TV like regular people. I can be found reading Web Comics, surfing porn and 4chan. If you don't know what 4chan is, I don't want to be the one to explain it. I'm also 30 years old. But I remember what it is like to be a student. I hated only having fast food around, I wanted something tasty, not that bland cardboard shit.
I also remember being a kid. and doing elementry and high school in a town of 1000 people, and walking home for lunch, having to make my own damned food (breakfasts and lunches I cooked since I was very young for myself, I could do it, why shouldn't I?). I didn't make all the best choices when I was young but they were MINE. They shaped who I am today. And I'd be damned if I'd let someone else interfere with my children and their making choices.
Damnit, you don't need the government to decide things for you! And you don't need to hover over your children and protect them from every single thing. They are going to eat bad things, make stupid choices, see things you don't want them too, and learn about things you wish they wouldn't. It's part of what makes children into actual adults, instead of whiny clingy morons who can't move out till they are in there 30s. Give them some good and tasty alternatives to the junk food, things they can get at a reasonable price. Some of them will take it, some won't. That's part of growing up.
Ham Bone
@sadiepix OOH, I had to wiki that but that sounds like just what I am looking for! Never heard of it before, but that sounds like the missing ingredient in my soup! Thanks a ton!
Ham Bone
Funny you should mention that, I'm making what people in my house refer to as death soup.
I made a stock with the ham bone, added a can of pale ale and let that simmer together. Once the stock was done, I removed the ham (I don't like the texture of the meat in the soup and most of it was gone anyways) and slowed the stock to simmer. While that was going on, I grilled some bratwurst, and roasted some garlic.
Once they cool, I'll slice the sausage and add it to the soup. THen I'll add the garlic, some shallots (I keep debating about leeks instead), potatoes, Celery and red pepper. I'm still looking for a green leafy type veggie to put in the pot though, and I'll love a suggestion.
About 15-20 minutes before I serve I'll add some cream and if it's not as thick as I'd like, I'll add some roux. When I serve it I add some good 2 year old cheddar to the top and serve it with some good fresh buns from the oven.
In the past we've added bacon, replaced the brats with garlic sausage, Italian sausage, farmer's sausage, some meat of that sort.
Frozen Food for Exhausted Friend?
Damn I wish my wife and I had friends like you. We never got any help from our friends when the kids were born. Blankets, some clothes for kids yes, but no food, and next to no visits or anything. I think it has to do with the fact that most of them are scared of kids! Oh well. Sauces are better then prepped pasta I'd say, and stews and soups are always nice, Maybe even some desserts.
Avoid spicy food as it changes the taste of mommy's milk which can be undesirerable. The less messy the food the better, as sometimes you're just too tired to clean up the mess! (which leads to a nice help, offer to come over and watch the baby so mommy can rest, or even help out with some chores, especially if it's a ceasarian birth!), and yes one handed eating, or something you can eat while moving about is a good choice.
More then anything, ask the new parents what they would like to eat. Different babies bring different changes. With my daughter, we could still do everything much the same, though I was doing almost all the housework as well as cooking because she was a C-section and wifey couldn't do everything, doctor ordered her to rest as much as she could till the incision healed (and I enforced this far more then she liked.) With My son (2nd child) we could sorely have used another set of hands for a few days, just to help keep up with everything, or even take my daughter for a few hours to give us some extra time to get things done.
Do you ever get a free lunch?
I'm with grampart! Tanstaafl!
Help! My Future Housemate is a Vegetarian
Let them fend for themselves. Everyone in the house is grown up, and should be able to cook for themselves. Being a chosen diet rather then a required one, and it's everyone's home, they can cook for themself.
When Costco hands you lemons...
http://www.dairygoodness.ca/en/consumers/food/recipes/all/0200/224.htm?recipeid=224
here is the lemon chicken my wife made for me one night so I would nave a nice meal when I got home from work. It is very good. Though the ammount of lemon needed would need to be aproximated from the juice to lemons.
I don't go there, because I can't eat the food
@lamora the green jellow salad? It's my father's favourite. I learned to make it so I can make it next time he comes for dinner. Luckily my parents can cook. My Mother in Law is an okay cook. If she's cooking for only a few people. It's bland and simple but it's okay.
Spam Experience
The stuff is Vile. Just awful. I think I'd consider killing and eating another person before I'd eat it. It looks like dog food and smells like it too.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
Thank you for a timely post. As part of a fast I'm doing with others from church, I'm fasting from dairy (except mayo), so trying to stay away from eggs and butter during this time. I love dessert, so looking to replace eggs and butter with tasty alternatives. Thank you all for contributions.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I use applesauce occasionally, but only when it goes with the rest of the flavours in the recipe. More often I use plain yogurt (or flavoured if I'm making something with fruit).
I don't like most veg. oils in baking, I find they make for really greasy food. I do, however, replace half the butter in my choc. chip cookies with unrefined coconut oil... and then add coconut flakes to the recipe...yum!
I replace most eggs with a combo of flour, butter, baking powder and water. And I despise fake sugars - no splenda for me - but I have been known to use banana as a sweetener.
For the ultimate in replacements check these out: http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/nikkis-healthy-cookies-recipe.html
...even better than they look!
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I have only tried replacing oil with unsweetened applesauce in home-made muffins and I think they taste terrific! That goes along with adding other low calorie/and or low fat ingredients to the muffins.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
Re Splenda -- It is fine in "wet" applications like cheesecake, but if you want to make a sugar-free cake or something else using the "cream butter and sugar together" method to give it structure, you will have to use maltitol or another sugar alcohol. They have the sugar structure but no calories. That's what manufacturers use to make sugar free candy, etc. Also, if you have ever looked at a package of sf candy, you will see on there somewhere (generally in very fine print): "Warning, may have a laxative effect." That's the sugar alcohol. They are not kidding, either! It's worthwhile using the sugar alcohols if you need to, but be careful.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I've only used apple sauce once and I liked the results. I've heard that you should use A.S. in place of all liquids. I don't really bake that much so I can't really say for sure.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I have used applesauce as a substitute in a spicy bar cookie. The applesauce flavor was a nice complement to the raisins, nuts and spices, and it kept the cookie moist. It was a big hit with my son who was a vegan at the time and wanted something sweet for the holidays.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
What a great thread. I think substituting butter with applesauce works really well in certain applications. I almost always use it (or yogurt) because when I make cakes, I usually make carrot or spice cakes. The flavor and texture the applesauce adds works very well. Also in oatmeal cookies. Makes them super chewy.
However, if I am making something more delicate in flavor, or something where the butter flavor is supposed to shine through I go ahead and use butter. Those things are always for special occasions anyway.
Oh and pie crusts (obviously). I was a vegan for a while. I made a pie crust once with coconut oil which was ok. But nothing can compare to a flaky all butter crust.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
Nope. I've never done it. I love my butter too much. And since baked goods are where I eat the vast majority of my butter, I don't see a reason to change...unless I'm baking something for a vegan. That, however, has not been a common experience in my life.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
Regarding the comments about Splenda: I use Splenda in place of sugar for every recipe that calls for sugar. Especially ice cream. I don't understand the comment about Splenda being greasy. I've never experienced a greasy feeling or taste using it. As a matter of fact, I can't detect any difference in flavor or texture whatsoever.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I've been using extra virgin olive oil for 99% of all my cooking.
The other 1% is made up of butter or grapeseed oil. Mostly the grapeseed oil.
Anyone use pumpkin (or apple sauce) and oil to replace butter?
I've used applesauce as a fat substitute from time to time. I can detect it in yellow/white cakes, but not in other flavors. It does keep the cake moist, but as mentioned above, the cake is much lighter in texture. I will not sub it in carrot or banana cake.
I've never heard of using pumpkin or bananas, but I'm willing to give it a go, just to see what the end product tastes and feels like. Where can I find more information on this?
Perogies at home
YUM! thanks for all the help, I can't wait to try these out
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
Now food sharing is being discouraged and 'Beer Pong' parties, where you pass around the same pitcher, at one college is being forbidden...
Perogies at home
Here's my formula for pierogie dough:
1 C AP flour
1 egg
water to fill 1/ egg shell
1 T cream cheese
pinch of salt
Make as much as you need in the FP.
Let it sit for 30 min in the fridge, and then roll out and stuff.
I like all kinds of fillings...cabbage, potato, savory & sweet.
Seal well, and boil away.
The most important part is browning them in butter until crisp.
Perogies at home
I was on a pierogie kick a while back and started experimenting with some dessert variations. I chopped a couple fresh peaches, sprinkled them with a little brown sugar and some Vietnamese cinnamon, and drizzled on a little melted butter and used that as a filling. I've also tried chocolate and banana, which is really good too.
Perogies at home
Like @ pooch, the cheese that filled the perogis I grew up eating were filled with farmers cheese. Cheese and potato are good as are cabbage and onion.
My favorite are filled with sauerkraut and bacon or wild mushrooms and accompanied by dill sour cream... I will definitely be having some tonight along with some nice kielbasa I got from Golemo's Market in Worcester MA.
Perogies at home
@thepirataeking ! sounds like a good, fool-proof - babushka recipe.....
on my ukrainian mother's side we did these fillings: fried cabbage with bacon, or fried mushrooms & sauerkraut -- and lekvar (which is prune).... i love the good old fashioned potato ones.... and cheese -- they use pot cheese (or farmer's cheese), a little sugar and fresh dill.....
don't forget the onions sauteed in butter on the side. YUM.
great that you're passing it along to your daughter.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I find the comment about the resale value well-meaning. It's really not worth arguing this issue further.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I find the comment about resale value odd. I actually passed on purchasing a home a couple weeks ago in part because it had an electric range. The home is in an area with no natural gas, so I could run a LPG line to it easily enough, but for other, additional reasons, I decided to build instead. I will definitely be having an PG tank and line installed so I can have a gas range - I could never go back to electric. I plan to have a small wall built around it on 2 sides so it won't be visible from the street, and I'll plant flowering shrubs around that.
I don't understand why propane would be considered any riskier than NG. It is a much more stable fuel, and there is a limited amount of it on your property, whereas NG is piped in and once it ignites, there's an almost infinite supply to keep burning.
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
I prefer to make my own meals. Especially after seeing a fast food kitchen. Unless your immune system is severly comprimised I don't think you should worry about a few sniffles.
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
+1 Ribster, Comment of the Week!
"Oh and doesn't a few alcoholic drinks count towards killing a few germs? Isn't hand sanitizer nothing more than jellied Vodka? :0)
A few martinis and a flu shot, you should be good to go....."
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
I use Purell a lot anyway. I don't think I should change my life around the risk of getting it. Even if I did wear a face mask, etc. I'm bound to get it anyway with my luck and my immune system.
Will N1H1 flu scare change your dining out habits?
The hype for this particular flu is waaaaaaayyyyyyyy overblown. This is just another strain of flu and unless you already have a pre-existing health condition or problem, IT"S JUST ANOTHER FLU BUG GOING AROUND only earlier in the season. The college campuses aren't screening for it, the vaccine isn't out for it yet, and the student health services asked my son not to come in to be seen unless he was having severe symptoms. Go figure! He has a sore throat and chills, a positive comfirmed case of H1N1 of a fraternity brother, but my son doesn't live at the house. He's a dormitory resident assistant, and the health services aren't worried this is going to spread?
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No. I don't substitute for Butter, I won't use fake sugar in things, and I won't used fake milk either. Better to have a little bit of real food that tastes good and feels right in your mouth then have the fake stuff more often.
@kitchengeeking as to your splenda question, that stuff, like all the sugar substitutes I've tried leave my mouth feeling greasy. It seriously feels like I rinsed my mouth with bacon grease, then had a big glass of cold water. YUCK!