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New York Times had Donut Pudding printed a few weeks ago. Made it twice and pased it around to friends. Made more raspberry jelly for the second batch and doubled the # of donuts for a really large pan. If you decide to make some kind of donut thing, don't use Dunkin Donuts. They don't have enough jelly in them unless you are driving and eating a donut with the other hand. You can order big ones from the Stop & Shop. Frozen dough, sure but they hold a lot of jelly and when you add cream, eggs and sugar. Yum.

I hesitate to step in, after all the hoo-ha over what processed means, but why assume that "university-tested" was wrong? Citing some ag school study makes more sense to me than "universally tested." Or maybe you're right — I guess it would fit a sort of airy, holistic sort of feel.

Nick-I just wanted to chime in and say that I'm on your side here. I don't see these people raising their own cows and growing their own grain for bread, etc, so who knows how many steps their precious food goes through before it gets to their mouth?

The more important question here, however, is this: Why was this argument started in the first place? Either because Simon is a hopeless pedantic for pure semantics, or because the idea that something is "processed" offends him somehow. Just because something is processed doesn't mean it's evil, OR necessarily unhealthy--but you notice he's not arguing on that point, he's attacking your term so that he can justify liking a certain kind of food without having to admit to eating "processed" food.

That's the kind of thinking that makes people plunk down money to fund elitist places like Organique that make their living out of customers who are that easily frightened by the fact that we are not living in the Stone Age. Granted, I'll bet the owners and operators of the place suffer from the same delusion, but really! Give me a break!

Why is food in L.A. so ordinary? The San Fernando Valley is even worse. Even Pittsburgh and Austin have quirky culinary outposts, restaurants that have one of a kind goodies. We get reviews of yet another hamburger grill. WHY? We eat too. What is it with this town. Where is our Fergus Henderson? Where is our Old Tyme Tavern Brain Sandwich, our Avec? Yeah, we got hip and cool, and it's utterly trendy and sometimes it's even edible, if you can get it and if you can pay the tab and if you get there before the crowd moves on and they fire the old chef and hire somebody who works for a lot less. Even a deli...where is our pastrama? It ain't at Nate & Als, or Jerry's Deli, or Solly's. And believ me, I've been to Art's Deli and every sandwich is not a work of art. It's a work of some meat packing plant in Dubuque that never heard from hot, greasy, juicy, spicy pastrami.
Where are the good places??? Sorry, I skipped lunch and am a little overwrought.

i dont think anyone blames the cows, its us.

Bummer about the overcooking. I have to say that I was a little turned on by the Old School Burger when I first scanned your photos. (Which are nice by the way.) Maybe it's exactly as you say-- I'm getting tired of hearing about all of the onion, fancy cheese, spinach, various sauce iterations on the burger. Juicy meat, soft bun, ketchup-- I had high hopes. Alas, sorry that it didn't add up. As a child, my standard was a cheeseburger with mayo only. Haven't ordered that way in ages, but your post has inspired me to give it a shot again.

If one more person blames a farting cow for global warming I'm going to freak out.

To Hell with algore and the global warming crowd. I'll continue to eat my burgers.

"Belief" in Global Warming is not unequivocal thankfully. The world as you know it will not be ending anytime soon. It is ginned up fear and paranoia. Polar bear populations are increasing. Lets say you live in NYC where Hamburger Today HQ are......

There was a large meeting of scientists there last year. I'll bet you never heard it because the mass media refused to cover it.

Prominent Scientists Debunk Global Warming
http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservativeopinion/2008/03/07/prominent-scientists-debunk-global-warming/

Heart of Glass.....
Global warming is hardly settled science. The last ten years have been cooling ones. James Hansen (Al Gore's guru) was way off and perhaps guilty of intentional fraud when he claimed the 10 hottest years of the last 100 have occurred recently. He had to retract because many of those 10 hottest are actually during the Great Depression (1934 in particular) and are in fact well distributed within the last 100 years

http://samanoontheissues.blogspot.com/2008/01/nasa-1934-hottest-year-on-record.html

Dust Bowl and drought mean anything to you?

@NotAmerican--well said!

@gaffer--read the science. Global warming is no longer a 'debate' in the scientific community, nor has it been for many, many years. Meat consumption does exponentially increase one's carbon footprint. Like NotAmerican said, it's not like 'they're coming to take the meat away,' but instead of assuming the way people in the developed world for only the past 50 years have been eating meat is 'more natural,' people who eat meat have to return to the ways they ate meat long ago--as a condiment for some meals, in small portions, less frequently, and in a more ethically-raised manner.

They're not saying 'Don't eat meat', they're saying 'Maybe we should eat meat in moderation, like we used to'.

Nobody's going to have their burger taken away from them, okay? But do you need meat every day? I love a good burger, but I don't need it for three meals a day. And a bit of salad wouldn't kill you, would it?

I get very tired of the anti-vegetarian meme online. 'Oh, I could eat a whole cow! I want meat cereal in the morning! Put more meat on my ice cream, which is also made of meat!' Okay, we get it, you're a very manly man who does manly things like eat meat. Most vegetarians I know don't give a damn that you want meat. They do think you want a lot of attention.

I envy George Motz.