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Winners of the Serious Eats Pumpkin Carving Contest

thanks guys. after narrowly missing out last year, i feel redeemed! lots of tough competition out there. i know perhaps the editors are trying to steer it to a decidedly 'food' related entry, but don't forget, these carvings everyone did are done in food itself. like frosting a cake, maybe, where the food is the medium, without the "story" or idea itself necessarily being about food. that's what i like about doing them, anyway. trying to turn the limitations of the pumpkin itself into it's strengths: the ability to carve to different depths.

also glad i included a pic of the pumpkin with the room lights on, so you could see it was really just a pumpkin, not a drawing. i appreciate you sorting that out. would hate to be DQ'd for a non-pumpkin entry when it really was a pun'kin after all.

for what it's worth, i was lucky enough to score the 2nd place chef's knife last year, and it is one heckuva great knife. heavier by FAR than most german knives at the same price, and really well balanced and great to use. it's my favorite knife in the everyday kitchen.

looking forward to the starter set!

thanks again. i was sweating it, frankly. seems the level of competition goes up ten-fold every year. i may retire. it's getting nerve-wracking!
-stike

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

great remarks, and the recipe is spot on. As a yankee, i grew up with sweet sauce. But the vinegar barbecue sauce is the way to go with Pulled Pork.

but there was one minor faux pas (among foodies, anyway).... the headline "Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce".

viz: >grilling has nuthin to do with barbecue! You grill a steak, but you barbecue ribs (or pulled pork, etc.).

Sure, it's pedantic to point it out, but you'll gain a little 'Q street-cred from knowing the difference...


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Winners of the Serious Eats Pumpkin Carving Contest

thanks guys. after narrowly missing out last year, i feel redeemed! lots of tough competition out there. i know perhaps the editors are trying to steer it to a decidedly 'food' related entry, but don't forget, these carvings everyone did are done in food itself. like frosting a cake, maybe, where the food is the medium, without the "story" or idea itself necessarily being about food. that's what i like about doing them, anyway. trying to turn the limitations of the pumpkin itself into it's strengths: the ability to carve to different depths.

also glad i included a pic of the pumpkin with the room lights on, so you could see it was really just a pumpkin, not a drawing. i appreciate you sorting that out. would hate to be DQ'd for a non-pumpkin entry when it really was a pun'kin after all.

for what it's worth, i was lucky enough to score the 2nd place chef's knife last year, and it is one heckuva great knife. heavier by FAR than most german knives at the same price, and really well balanced and great to use. it's my favorite knife in the everyday kitchen.

looking forward to the starter set!

thanks again. i was sweating it, frankly. seems the level of competition goes up ten-fold every year. i may retire. it's getting nerve-wracking!
-stike

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

great remarks, and the recipe is spot on. As a yankee, i grew up with sweet sauce. But the vinegar barbecue sauce is the way to go with Pulled Pork.

but there was one minor faux pas (among foodies, anyway).... the headline "Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce".

viz: >grilling has nuthin to do with barbecue! You grill a steak, but you barbecue ribs (or pulled pork, etc.).

Sure, it's pedantic to point it out, but you'll gain a little 'Q street-cred from knowing the difference...


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Winners of the Serious Eats Pumpkin Carving Contest

I remember stike's from last year. It was amazing. I didn't think it was an actual pumpkin either until I saw the room lights on picture.

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i didn't even know there was a contest-i made a kickass pumpkin this year, before it got all gross and moldy. a hand crank drill is very handy for carving, as my sister and i discovered.

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Winners of the Serious Eats Pumpkin Carving Contest

BananaMonkey - me too. Reminds me of those kitschy yard decorations of a woman bent over with a dress.

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@tommyk--at first glance your (awesome) pumpkin looked like a woman bent over. In my mind's eye, tusks turned into legs and mustache into a lifted skirt.

I blushed, then realized what was what.

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Aww bert and ernie didnt win, I'll recover, and practice my craft until next year. Maybe it'll be the sweedish chef to tie into the food theme. Dr. Frankenstein was the best one there though, great use of light.

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Wow, honorable mention is pretty kick a--. Well done Dianasaur.

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Wow... soooo impressive.

Awesome art work everyone, I had a hard time cutting a proper triangle eye on mine haha.

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@hmw0029 No, I have not gotten a decent knife. I plan on getting one when I have better access to a kitchen so I can cook more often. Thanks for remembering me, though.

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

The REAL Eastern NC Sauce!

It's imperative that you use apple cider vinegar only. Combine vinegar (1 qt.), brown sugar to desired sweetness, you cannot use too much, a tablespoon of mustard, tablespoon of ketchup, for color only, texas pete hot sauce to taste, worchester sauce, crushed red pepper, black pepper, salt, onion powder, garlic powder, paprika, and I like to add honey. Put all in a pot and heat until everything blends together, let cool and sit for about a month before putting it on you chopped NC pork BBQ!

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

All of these sauce recipes are way, way off base. Eastern NC born and raised right here. I've been eating eastern NC chopped barbeque since I was old enough to eat meat!!!! Growing up my dad was the cook at every pig pickin' and has always made his own eastern NC barbecue sauce. I'm currently employed at an eastern NC BBQ restaurant!!! Boss Hog's Backyard BBQ in Washington and Greenville, North Carolina if anyone is ever out in our neck of the woods, feel free to come have a taste of real eastern NC chopped BBQ! Grilled chicken and ribs are also amazing (with a thicker, sweeter rib-appropriate sauce if you want it) and both the barbecue and rib sauce are both homemade from a special recipe. If anyone knows their eastern NC barbecue sauce, it's me. It practically runs through my veins. So believe me when I say that NONE of these recipes posted here are even REMOTELY close. Anyone who makes these sauces MIGHT very well enjoy them, but you are NOT eating eastern NC chopped barbecue, kiddos! Trust me!

And as for the tomato dispute, Lexington-style barbecue sauce is a thick, heavily tomato-based sauce that 90% of the population of eastern NC will agree is disgusting. On a less biased note, it's EXTREMELY different from eastern NC barbecue sauce. BUT to dispute a few previously made comments, eastern-NC-style barbecue sauce absolutely DOES contain some tomato. Ketchup, of all things, actually. Not a lot. It's a very, very runny practically watery sauce, and the list of ingredients has several (very important!) ingredients that none of these recipes listed here seem to cover. Sugar, hot sauce and a few other things being among the forgotten ingredients.

Sadly, I'm not willing to part with the recipe. As a true eastern North Carolinian, I'd just invite all of y'all over for a pig pickin' but alas, no can do.

Best of luck finding that true eastern NC barbecue experience. Just a heads up, you aren't going to find real eastern NC barbecue anywhere west of Raleigh (and that landmark is a generous one.) If you want real eastern NC barbecue, come to the coast!

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To Raiders 757

I'm actually a North Carolinian, who transplanted to Williamsburg. I used to live within 10 miles of Allen & Sons in Pittsboro N.C., and after eating that stuff, Pierces in Williamsburg is just plain pathetic! Though, honestly, their hushpuppies were pretty tasty!

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oh How I Miss N. Carolina... I used to live less than a Block from B's BBQ...it always amazed me how the line would be so long in front of that lil' shack.... Mmmm Carolina BBQ

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@ intheyearofthepig

That was a great post!!!

I must say though, that even what some of us call "bad BBQ", is still more often than not, better than a lot of other options out there. It makes me wonder, is there a such thing as bad BBQ?

@ roxi

That sounds like a tastey idea. I've used Coke as a marinade before, but never thought of putting in a Carolina style sauce.

Thanks for the idea!

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or pepsi...if you want to get technical about true eastern nc roots. Founded in new Bern, nc about 30 minutes from my house.

Has anyone heard of the famous B's BBQ in Greenville, nc- the very best.

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Enjoying all the comments. Am I the only one who adds a can of Coke to my N.C. BBQ?

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

I have eaten and continue to eat my way across North Carolina; I still live in North Carolina. I've collected oral histories from numerous North Carolina pit bosses, visited their kitchens, assisted other bosses at a few pig pickins, and consulted a great deal of literature on the subject.

As a Texan born and bred, and now a resident of North Carolina, the most wonderful thing I have learned is that barbecue is as endlessly variable as the myriad of tastes of those who prepare it. There is a great deal of very bad barbecue, but there is no ultimate barbecue except that which you are eating in any given moment. Luckily in places like North Carolina and Texas, there is enough written on the subject to avoid the bad and only eat the good without having to experience barbecue withdrawal syndrome (a horrible malady I would not wish on my worst enemy). The best thing about barbecue is that almost any of it can be very, very good if prepared with time and respect for the ingredients, and sometimes it is truly great, and sometimes, in the perfect context, it is sublime

I have met the authors of this book, read other books they have written on Southern food and Southern culture, and know without a doubt that they are more than experts on the subject of Carolina barbecue.

Hating on other people's barbecue achieves very little. Perhaps their tastes or recipes differ from your preferred preparation, and the results will no doubt be different, but likely delicious if they are passionate about the 'cue. I am sure SouthernBella's sauce is great, likely much better than the recipe posted above or she would not be simultaneously so vocal and secretive about it's prowess, but the sauce (spiced vinegar) recipe you have included here is no doubt authentic, well researched, delicious when used properly, and will most certainly not ruin the barbecue.

I always enjoy the "Grilling" articles. Keep up the good work.

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@ efreehling

I hope I didn't come across harsh. If so, I am sorry.

Va. BBQ originated in Fredericksburg. From what have gathered, they smoke their meat there, and ship it out to their stores, which doesn't make things any better. To me, good BBQ must be made on site. I know the one near me heats their Q up in a microwave, which really turned me off. It wasn't bad, but you could tell it wasn't fresh, so I avoid the place.

There is a pretty good place in Williamsburg, called Pierces, but sadly they decided to expand outwards, and the stores not located in "the Burg", have their Q sent to them, and not smoked on site. Such a shame, as that can lead to them getting a bad name. Many consider them the best in that area, but I found that a place called Hog Wild is much better. Not only do they have great Q, you can choose from different sauce, or have none at all. They also have good Cajun dishes there as well.

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@Raiders757....OK OK I was being sarcastic...but thanks for the warning, that confirms my hunch never to go to Va. BBQ. I heard a rumor that they were shipping pre-cooked meat in from Siler City NC, at least where I am. Not sure if that's true, though. I totally agree with your observation of the use of the word, "barbecue." If you have friends over and fire up a grill to cook hamburgers and hot dogs, that is a "cook out." Not a "barbecue." And grilling chicken and slathering sauce from a bottle that says BBQ on it is not barbecue-ing either.

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@ efreehling

How is a place calling itself Virginia Barbecue an oxymoron? It is in Virginia obviously. I guess you could say the "oxymoron" is that they aren't doing anything different to their Q to call themselvs as such. To be honest, your not missing a thing. There are a lot of great BBQ joints in Va., many even better than Carolinas more popular establishments, but that isn't one of them(or should I say, they, as there are several locations across the state). My local Va. BBQ doesn't even smoke their meat on site. What the... ?

@ stike

Good point. "Grilling" and "barbecuing" are methods of cooking. When one "barbecues", it means they are cooking slow and low. I get a good laugh from those who say they're cranking up the BBQ, then grill burgers and hot dogs. I find this most with my friends and family from the northeast and northwest.


One thing I would like ot point out, is when it comes to Eastern Carolina style BBQ, you do not smoke your shoulder with hickory, or any other woods to flavor it. A heavy wood induced flavor will overpower the vinegar sauce. At least that's how I came to know it.

If you do smoke your meat, it should taste great with no sauce at all. Sauce is just an added pleasure.

I'm just glad to hear that some people realize where the real "Q" is. I love it all, but I find that the Carolinas, and Tennessee have it down to a science. I even enjoy the South Carolina mustard based sauce. It sounds crazy, but it's damn good stuff. Don't get me wrong though, you can find great "Q" in Virginia, but it's all based on the regions around it.

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Grilling: North Carolina Vinegar Barbecue Sauce

That's what I was asking, you said you "ate your way through..." I was wondering how many sauces you actually tasted on your jaunt, or did you have most of the bbq naked?

If you're really wanting to perfect an eastern sauce, google it, look at the different recipes, notice the similarities as well as differences...

to give you a scale difference... my recipe makes 2 gallons of sauce and I only use 2-3 tablespoons of crushed red pepper flakes (compared to that *choke* cup and a third), and only 2 tablespoons of (insert a specific product that may or may not contain the word "salt"), as well as a few other ingredients that I'm not at liberty to disclose. ;)

This thread makes me homesick *sniff*

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@Southern_bella: I admit, I don't have much to compare to, I did mention it was my first trip to Eastern NC and the first vinegar sauce I made :)

It appears that I've seen the light, but need some schoolin'...

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It's ok compared to what though? How many other Eastern sauces did you taste?

I know it's all a matter of preference, but "salt to taste" should apply, never an actual measurement.

IMHO of course, but I was born and raised in Eastern NC, so I know my sauces. ;-)

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Another North Carolina person speaking up... this time about the cole slaw. The slaw pictured is what I grew up eating... the red slaw, called vinegar slaw, is popular in a lot of places but not everywhere. I love the cool creamy with the vinegary bite. OK now I want a bbq sandwich w/ cole slaw, hot salty french fries and a big batch of hush puppies with tartar sauce for dipping.

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@Southern_bella: The salt can be cut back, but the sauce really isn't all that salty, when I made 1/4 of the recipe, I added just under a tablespoon of salt to 4 cups of vinegar and it seemed to taste ok.

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About: illustrator with a coupla young boys (future foodies) and a wife of 14 years. we cook 95% of what we eat. the youngest (6) made pumpkin ice cream for his October birthday. ...and the oldest will try anything you put on his plate.

Favorite foods: wellington, steak au poivre, game, roasted veggies. rustic stuff. homemade rabbit or seafood paella over an oak fire. we cook on a BGE.

Last bite on earth: wild mushrooms stuffed with wild mushrooms in a wild mushroom sauce, served on a bed of wild mushrooms. with a great red wine