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McDonald's Double Cheeseburger with One Slice of Cheese, Coming Soon
Or come to the UK and pay USD $1.88 (GBP £1.19) for the same...
New York Post Slams City's Beloved Burgers; New York Times Disses Cheeseburger Spring Rolls
Wow - All but Five Napkin Burger and fusion burgers are places I visited during my only trip to NY a couple of years ago. I, predictably maybe, thought each was amazing (Shake Shack perhaps a little overrated - I was there for it's 2nd year of opening - but I'm from the north of England where there isn't a heritage of such burgers as they produce). Perhaps Steve Cuozzo would like to make a culinary trip to Manchester, England and then see if he still thinks the same...
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Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Rare for me but unfortunately it's absolutely impossible to get anything other than overdone anywhere in the UK. DIY is the key!
McDonald's Double Cheeseburger with One Slice of Cheese, Coming Soon
Or come to the UK and pay USD $1.88 (GBP £1.19) for the same...
New York Post Slams City's Beloved Burgers; New York Times Disses Cheeseburger Spring Rolls
Wow - All but Five Napkin Burger and fusion burgers are places I visited during my only trip to NY a couple of years ago. I, predictably maybe, thought each was amazing (Shake Shack perhaps a little overrated - I was there for it's 2nd year of opening - but I'm from the north of England where there isn't a heritage of such burgers as they produce). Perhaps Steve Cuozzo would like to make a culinary trip to Manchester, England and then see if he still thinks the same...
The Brave Little Toaster-Nuker LTM9000
Whatever next!? How about the imaginitively named "Toast n Egg" - I'm not sure if this is available in the US and I won't, unfortunately, be volunteering to be UK tester.
A Hamburger TodaySerious Eats Gift Guide
How about Hamburger America DVD? Cost me a fortune* to UK with import duty but well worth it.
* although maybe not as much as the planned trip is gonna cost.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I personally love the photography of the burgers as I'm one who prefers her burgers as rare as possible. Whenever I see an autopsy shot of a burger that's been cooked through, my mind just goes down the rabbit hole of "well, that's a damn shame" because my brain equates gray/pink-gray meat with dry and tough. Sort of the opposite reaction of the folks that have the visceral reaction to the red and rosy burgers.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
These days, I find myself eating more steak tartare than cooked hamburgers of any level of doneness, so I disqualify myself from commenting on burger doneness. Raw meat is fine with me, and photos of lightly cooked meat with bright red centers are quite visually pleasing to me.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Well not entirely. I absolutely think it's true for a number of those who don't order rare burgers (including real life friends and some commenters above, such as the one who said he wasn't going to diss his digestive tract), that fear of food-borne ilness plays some role in their preference. For that subset of burger fans, I'm wondering when and how their concern developed.
Anecdotally, when someone takes issue with my ordering a rare burger, it's typically on the grounds that I am playing Russian Roulette with my life.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
morganoliver, just to be clear, are you really saying people only dislike rare burgers out of fear?
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Actually, this last comment makes me wonder if there should be a new poll--whether a burger has ever given you food poisoning, e coli, etc. I've never been felled by any of the above, nor has anyone I know, but maybe there's a well-reasoned fear of rare after all? I've previously attributed a liking for well-done burgers to irrationality, a la those who fear immunizations, etc. Anyone?
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I like great meat cooked medium well, average meat cooked well. Charred, even. I figure, our ancestors worked to harness fire, and I'm not going to diss their memory - or my digestive tract. Pink is good in other circumstances and locations, but my burgers? No way.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Looks from the poll like the medium-or-more vote only has slightest of margins (51 to 49 right now). Also, I imagine that people who want a medium burger (I'm on the MR/MED line) will not be made squeamish by seeing a picture of one that is medium-rare so I don't know how useful it is to lump them in with the well-doners.
Here in Toronto it is a battle against regulations, servers, and proprietors to get a less-than-well burger so it is always good to see photographic evidence when restaurants are (safely) serving burgers the way I like them. You can always ask for a more well-done burger.
Thanks for the great work.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I am a rare burger man myself (ever since the server at P.J. Clarke's mistakenly swapped my medium burger with a coworker's 6 years ago) but I think this is less about individual preferences than documenting well made, exceptional burgers.
Like it or not (I don't), a rare or even medium-rare burger is an exception these days, and worthy of photographing for reasons beyond aesthetics. Probably 75% of the time that I order a cheeseburger, not counting places like 5 Guys, my request for rare is received with a nod and a smile, after which I receive something that's gray and flavorless all the way through. My experiences have also been that outside of NYC, "underdone" burgers are even harder to procure. Well-done burger eaters, be content with the knowledge that outside of this site and a few accommodating spots, it's your world that we are all living in. Let me smile at the blood-dripping meat on the screen, even if you think I'm insane and/or risking my health.
(also, the idea of a well-done sirloin burger, mentioned above, is horrifying. Rare ground chuck, please, with a slice of American.)
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Medium for me,...and I dont think I've had a burger that was as succulent as it had been at medium. Anything made less than that is still "moo-ing".
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Sprout, have you ever been to London? At most fairly respectable places, you will get a medium burger, and at most good places, you will get a medium rare burger as standard.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@Sov: To be crystal clear: I meant come out as in leave. The more the beef is cooked, the more the fat breaks down and the fat juices and the meat juices are progressively cooked out of the burger.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@Sov: I'll replace "come out" with "leave the burger."
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Bebo and Daniel, reading over this, I still think the meaning of "come out" is confusing. Now, as I read most of your initial post, Daniel, you like burgers rare or medium rare because there "is far more meat flavor when the burger has more fat and juice in it". The next clause of the sentence seems to be adjectival, alluding to "elements that come out the more the meat is cooked." The "come out" can be interpreted two ways: come out as leave, or come out as be increasingly noticed.
From what you said earlier in you post I suspect the former, but I don't think it's entirely clear yet.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I wouldn't eat most of the burgers pictured. They look raw not undercooked,
I make hamburgers at home with ground sirloin cooked through and they are not dry. The secret is cover them with onions while you are cooking them.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I think its all a matter of individual taste. Not everyone likes their meat medium-rare or below, and that does seem to be the overwhelming majority of review pictures.
Personally i don't like when the meat is too dry either, but as has been mentioned above, cooking it a bit more, say medium or medium-well on the rare occasion, doesn't have to be a bad experience.
I don't know if its common or not, but i enjoy the cooked taste, with just the right proportion of juices. A steak cooked medium does that for me, and it probably varies with taste.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@bebo: I could have written that more clearly. Robyn is exactly right.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
When given a choice, like at a brewpub, I order medium without thinking. My 2 favorite burgers are 5 Guys and White Rose, which I guess would be considered well done or medium well. Nick, I know you've been to these places as well as the Windmill. Would you consider these burgers well done?
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Have to admit, the sight of the interior of a really underdone burger makes me feel squeamish. I'm not saying they're 'bad' (once, I really liked my burgers rare right at the centre), but my reaction now is just a strong, visceral 'ERGH'. The unfortunate combination of an E. Coli infection traced to a burger (there was an outbreak, and unfortunately, unless the meat is ground in a completely clean machine, from pieces of meat that are entirely clean on their surfaces, this is a risk), was the original trigger. Then I researched it, and thought about it, and that put paid to my pleasure in less-than well-done burgers.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@bebo: I think he's saying that when meat is cooked too long, the juice and fat have a tendency to come out too. We're against overcooking meat to the point that it's dry and tasteless, not against cooking meat in general. And we know cooking meat to well done doesn't automatically mean it will be dry and tasteless, but it happens a lot.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Daniel Zemans (Chicago correspondent):" I will say that to the extent beef flavor is supposed to be the centerpiece of the burger, there is far more meat flavor when the burger has more fat and juice in it, elements that come out the more the meat is cooked."
I'm not sure about how you're saying what you're saying here.
I 'hope' you're saying that the burger is more flavorful and juicy when it is thoroughly (and obviously properly) cooked. Cooking is what makes anything flavorful and juicy. That's why we do it.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
jkdrummer is the genius. He's hit it on the nose. What he said is what is the essence of the "hamburger sandwich".
If my hamburger looks like it does in that picture, it damn well better be a tuna.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
As rare as the law will allow for me!
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
It's always been medium for me. Most places know that "medium" is still very pink in the middle. That said, I've often gotten burgers overcooked and have started asking for "medium rare" to get "medium."
And I agree with Nick that there are plenty of places out there that do a damn fine burger or slider cooked "through."
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Always been a "medium" guy, myself. I can do medium rare... but no lower. Don't care for higher than medium, either.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
My vote is medium or higher.
However, I don't knock people's preferences. Eat what you want they way you want it.
Having said that, AHT has AMAZING pics of burgers though the one above looks extremely rare. I always get hungry when I come to this site, dammit!
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Rare for me but unfortunately it's absolutely impossible to get anything other than overdone anywhere in the UK. DIY is the key!