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The Big McFatty Melt
@gaffer, @wunami
If you'd like to criticize universal health care, please take into account it's effectiveness compared to the US system. Judged against that of other industrialized countries, all of whom have universal coverage, analysis from the WHO and the Commonwealth Fund has shown US overall health, life expectancy, mortality, and infant mortality to all be inferior. In addition, the US has 45 million uninsured and another 16 million under-insured. That is incredibly ridiculous.
And on topic, that looks delicious. One bite would be memorable enough to last a lifetime. Ok, maybe two bites.
The Big McFatty Melt
@EazyB: I didn't say anything about people not eating like this already. When you've had to lift and transport someone that is over 600 pounds and needs a special ambulance or hold up the fat flap of someone with a BMI of 50+ for 2-3 hours for their surgery (that was necessitated by their obesity), then feel free to call me a retard for not understanding that people eat badly already without free health care. My comment's wording was in response to gaffer's wording of "If you really get free health care from Obama you can fearlessly eat this stuff ". You know...the very thing you criticized me for saying. Additionally, I'll admit probably no one has wanted a heart attack so bad but was prevented from "getting one" due to lack of health insurance. However, making an extreme statement like that as an argument is at best marginally helpful to your side. Especially when there are plenty of people who think that modern medicine is so amazing that they can do things (like eating badly) even knowing the consequences (like heart attacks) and that some doctor will fix it. I know this because I've had patients freely admit it to me. At least some of these people would be deterred from eating as badly if they didn't have coverage since it eliminates the "some doctor will fix it" part of their line of reasoning.
@spiderman0521: There's a big difference between free health care and universal health care coverage. Universal health care coverage can be very good if implemented correctly. Giving away something desirable (like health care) for free generally creates demand from people that wouldn't have actually needed it, using up at least part of the supply for people who do need it. Don't assume that I think the US health care system is not broken just because I said that free health care is not a good idea.
@Rdour: I apologize for the derailing. I just think the "bypass surgery after eating something fatty" jokes are incredibly played out. So...
For the sake of at least marginally being on topic, I would probably eat that. Yes. I'd be one of those people who "eat like that already"...at least occasionally. Heart attacks be damned if the alternative is exclusively eating rabbit food for life. It can't be that much worse than a regular Big Mac. The cheese is just moved into the bread...and the bread is fried up somewhat. For the sake of not being misinterpreted, this is not to say that a regular Big Mac is healthy eating and being a little worse than it is also pretty healthy eating. But having indulgences in moderation is acceptable to me.
The Big McFatty Melt
@gaffer:
Anybody who regularly eats this kind of stuff will be unlikely to live long enough to get a free triple bypass, so I say, go for it dudes. You won't be clogging up the health care system for long.
The Big McFatty Melt
I've never been big on burgers with rare meat. I love rare steak, but a burger? I don't want to see any pink at all... that's just me.
@wunami - Guy was making a joke. Congrats on the conversation derail...
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@gaffer, @wunami
If you'd like to criticize universal health care, please take into account it's effectiveness compared to the US system. Judged against that of other industrialized countries, all of whom have universal coverage, analysis from the WHO and the Commonwealth Fund has shown US overall health, life expectancy, mortality, and infant mortality to all be inferior. In addition, the US has 45 million uninsured and another 16 million under-insured. That is incredibly ridiculous.
And on topic, that looks delicious. One bite would be memorable enough to last a lifetime. Ok, maybe two bites.