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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Cut him loose. In my experience, ( I have a very low tolerance for picky eaters) its usually not the food, its a passive aggressive manuever to control something else. And sorry, didn't anyone teach this guy that its bad manners to pick things out of your plate at the table? Either he doesn't seem to know how this makes you feel, or he does and it doesn't matter. Throw that fish back!

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Does the list mention "never never never sit down at the table with the guests while you tell them about the day's specials, as if you're part of the dinner party? Some extremely tacky places must seem to think that this enhances the atmosphere but I just hate it.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Yes, to #3: "Never refuse to seat three guests because a fourth has not yet arrived". I hate that, and the table would probably end up ordering more drinks or apps if they are waiting, so what's it to them if they have to wait to order the entrees?

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Cut him loose. In my experience, ( I have a very low tolerance for picky eaters) its usually not the food, its a passive aggressive manuever to control something else. And sorry, didn't anyone teach this guy that its bad manners to pick things out of your plate at the table? Either he doesn't seem to know how this makes you feel, or he does and it doesn't matter. Throw that fish back!

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Does the list mention "never never never sit down at the table with the guests while you tell them about the day's specials, as if you're part of the dinner party? Some extremely tacky places must seem to think that this enhances the atmosphere but I just hate it.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Yes, to #3: "Never refuse to seat three guests because a fourth has not yet arrived". I hate that, and the table would probably end up ordering more drinks or apps if they are waiting, so what's it to them if they have to wait to order the entrees?

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praise for PBS

oh yes, can't forget Rick Bayless, his latest show is just a delight to watch.

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Chris Kimball's NY Times Editorial

Chris Kimball tying the demise of Gourmet with the passing of Julia Child smacks me of nothing more than name dropping to give himself a little more street cred, not something I thought he needed to do. His arrogant and quaint little publication is known well enough by those foodies and food writing enthusiasts to know that he probably would like us all back in the days of the horse and wagon. Chris Kimball's publication is not and never would be a "Gourmet". So name drop all you want, Mr Kimball, you're not in the same league.

As a person in the publishing industry, I'm all too aware of the pressures that the digital age is putting on publications. Its simple: adapt or die. Twitter didn't kill Gourmet, Gourmet couldn't compete. If it had a message and an audience that cared enough, and a management that could see into the future, Gourmet the paper product could have morphed into some other presentation, even another print magazine. Magazines die when no one is interested in paying for them anymore. Simple. Conde Nast has sailed for many years on the hot wind of its own hubris and ego. Maybe they should have paid a little more attention to what's happening.

That said, it is the passing of a giant and long live Gourmet and all that, but lets move on. The Amateur Gourmet's says of Kimballs' magazine "..the dry, bloodless writing of Cook’s Illustrated" is spot on, and not about to take Gourmet's place.

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WTF was that Good Eats last night?

Arg, no, didn't hit delete. I watched all 30 cringeworthy minutes with my finger on the fast forward button. SUCH a bad idea, and its very clear that the campy skits + mr wizard formula works only in its original setting. On stage it falls as flat high school talent night. I actually think Ted Allen may have saved the show. AB, don't jump the shark!

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WTF was that Good Eats last night?

i dvr'd it, maybe will just hit delete now.

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Alton's Purple Endorsement

@ yayfood, well put, it sort of bugged me that he gave away his credibility to hawk some grape juice, if he has to give himself away, make it for something worthy.

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Alton's Purple Endorsement

I cringe every time I see it, comes so close to making a charicature out of him and is just sort of stupid, in my opinion, but a man's gotta make a living. Can't blame him for grabbing the brass ring as it comes around. btw, its been running for months, you just seeing it for the first time?

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What Would Brian Boitano Make? Seriously?

Hey, does anyone from the Food Network actually read this blog? I'd love to know that, I'd love to know if they see what people really think of the dumbed down, moronic, infantile, repetitive programming they serve up. Do they read blogs like this and say "Hey, maybe if we got some "D" lister like Brian Boitano in the kitchen our fans will go berzerk and our ratings will go through the roof. Foodies love snarky gay men cracking wise and making yet again another version of macaroni an cheese." Come on, Food Network, I DARE YOU, come and defend yourselves to your betrayed fans.

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For the laddies- Hottest Food Network Dude?

What is this, high school? Who's hotter? Ohmysweetlord. Well, alright, I'd take Alton over anyone else.

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Please help me find the perfect FOOD BLOG name!

I had a very beloved art teacher once tell me that you never leave a work of art unnamed, its like not naming your baby... if you have the need to create something and you want other people to name it for you, it just seems like maybe this isn't your baby.

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Bon Appetit and Gourmet are slated to die?

Won't really miss them. Dollar for dollar, I think Saveur is a much better read.

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She Who Shall Not Be Named...

can't believe I'm saying this but, come on guys, don't be hatin' on Aunt Sandee. Clearly the evil marketing people at FN clearly feel that the economic downturn is hot hot hot and want to jump on that crazy band wagon by programming to it! Sandra is just the perfect talking head to do it. Can't picture Ina or Nigella or Bobby telling us how to save money, can you? Think it will sound realistic coming out of Paula's butter coated mouth??

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Is the celebrity chef culture over?

LoCo summed it up nicely. I'm on the fence with endorsements. They are tv personalities and that's how tv personalities make money, endorsing things and putting on tv shows.

I think the difference comes in protecting their "brand". Alton came close, but he was selective (I cringe every time I see the add tho). Tyler and Applebee's? Made me think less of his cred as a chef. When I see Guy pushing TGIF's it reinforces the idea that I wouldn't ever want to eat there anyway and Ray Ray will shill anything from flatwear to Triskets and dogfood, do we really care what she has to tell us when she's telling us she can be bought by anybody for anything? With any industry, when the brand isn't protected it loses its strength, and I think so will Rachel and Guy and all the others who don't make selective choices.

Much to my surprise, I did notice the other day in a much older Good Eats that AB was in a supermarket and picked up a can of Welch's Grape and rather conspicuously waved it around while talking, so that relationship may have been there for a long time.

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Cooking shows

I'd watch The Frugal Gourmet, Great Chefs and Julia any day any time. I wonder if the brain trust and Food Network scans this blog, maybe something will sink in. How many times can people complain before they respond? Gimme that petition, I will sign!

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Slow going on Food Network website

You know, maybe it's just my mood today, its all making me sad. I used to love watching the Food Network, it was a little bright spot in my evenings, loved seeing my favorite shows and trying out new stuff in my kitchen on weekends. I see what I write here and what other people are saying and now FN is just something to make fun of. Food Network is killing my love of cooking. There. I said it.

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Slow going on Food Network website

The FN search engine seems to have gotten worse as well, and have pretty much abandonned looking up recipes on FN unless I know it was a certain chef (and I say chef, not talking head). And that seems to be the best way to make it work, search by tv show host, not recipe or ingredient. Stupid, but reinforcing their mission that its all about the host and not about the cooking. There are so many better resources now online anyway...why bother?

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar?

Coke releases a "kosher" Coke around Passover, you can tell them apart from HFCS Coke because they have yellow caps. I think Pepsi does this too, and their available most of the spring (at least around New York anyway). The difference in the taste is remarkable.

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Food Slogans and Jingles That You Just Can't Get Out of Your Head

I mutter to myself snatches of that Velveeta jingle "...Colby, Swiss and Cheddar, Blended all togedder..." every time I make a cheese sauce!

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Kitchen Renovation: Tiny Kitchen on a Small Budget

@nalega: when i redid my studio apt kitchen, (6 ft x 7 ft) we took out the full size fridge and put in an under the counter type. Never regretted it. Living in Manhattan, I never bought weeks and weeks worth of groceries anyway, so I didn't miss a full size fridge, not one bit. Gave me more prep area. Also had a small Miele 4 burner stove that did the job, can't complain about it.

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Bourdain Rants About the Food Network

Wish I could see the video now...FN removed the link.

And btw, never thought I'd see that sentence in print "In defense of Sandra Lee..." She and Rachel Ray already had plenty of venues to shill their wares... Family Circle, Women's Day, your morning paper, just about any day time talk show... since when was there NOT a voice for making simple meals at home on a budget???

I agree, FN should air shows that appeal to a variety of cooking levels, but they've set out a mandate to appeal to the simplest of minds as well. Its like a fine arts channel switching their programming to scrapbooking so that those who didn't go to art school arent' turned off.

FN seems out to fill their time slots with poster children for every demographic WalMart caters to. And lets face it, its all just something to watch in between ad placements. They're not out to educate or make the world a better place, their out to show advertising.

All that's missing now is a Rachel Ray substitute for asian cooking and most of the bases will be covered. I'll take all the piss and vinegar AB can summon up, because he's usually spot on.

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Food Network losing its edge

Exactly! Do they think someone really interested in the culinary arts (of any rank or stature) would respond to advertising by TGI Fridays and Velveeta!!!! If someone was smart... and I know she/he's out there, they'll start a competitor that will take the high road, attract the great chefs and teachers, replay the great old shows, and attract all those big advertising dollars that are out there and want to reach gourmets, chefs and the serious enthusiasts. Just look at the advertisers in Gourmet, or Bon Ap.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

They might show it in the States. Watch for a BBC show called Freaky Eaters, where people confront their food phobias. One man lived on cheese pizza and crisps for over a decade. It's entertaining television, and if you watch it together might make him more adventurous.

My wife was very picky when we met. She grew up on a game farm, and as a child only ate pheasant and dry bread. I introduced her to her first mushroom, her first crab cake, her first bite of lobster. She loves them all now. It takes time and encouragement, but pressure will just make someone stubborn. My nephew is famously picky, and when the family was over for dinner I made smoked haddock and salmon risotto with seared scallops on top. He made someone else take the scallops off. Never even thought of trying one ('It's the mildest thing on the planet' I said to no avail).

I feel sorry for those who won't try new things, but then again, it is a continuum. I try and be game, but when presented with a horsemeat carpaccio in Japan, I had to decline. Nor will I eat anything still living. We all have our limits.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Are we dating the same guy? My BF won't touch mayo or mustard. He'll make me a sandwich and turn green when he uses those! He also hates the vast majority of vegetables and thinks they smell...

Seriously, though, I don't think food issues have to be a deal breaker as long as other parts of the relationship are there. If you're making a list there's obviously something bothering you and I'd focus more on how he treats you and whether you and he are willing to make compromises for each other.

I'd love it if my BF would be more adventurous, but he's always willing to take me resturants where he knows there's probably only one thing he'll eat. He'll also try new stuff that I make, even if the end result is that I have yummy leftovers for lunch and he has a sandwich for dinner. If you can't see compromising about this, then it sounds like a deal breaker, but as much as I love food I think there's more important things to focus on in a relationship.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Good point @kerosena : worth repeating

"If you feel that your BF is shut off to trying new things in life, that's not going to change.

The food issue may just be a symptom of inflexibility. Only you can answer that one!"

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

It doesn't have to be a dealbreaker, but I find that a shared love of food and cooking is such an important thing in out relationship. Our likes and dislikes don't line up exactly, but we both enjoy lots of different things, and share a few favorites.

Do I wish there was more seafood in our household? Sure. But as long as we keep trying new things together, I can let that one go.

If you feel that your BF is shut off to trying new things in life, that's not going to change. The food issue may just be a symptom of inflexibility. Only you can answer that one!

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Hi neighbour!

Funny you ask this. I was thinking about it not long ago.
I just started dating someone: I believe that he's picky but I haven't found out the extent yet. He appears to be a "ketchup and KD" kinda guy...so maybe I just need to present some kind of exposure or something.

Maybe this is an opportunity for you to "teach" good food you know?

I really like him...so this won't be an issue for me.
I just left a four-year "foodie" relationship...and I've found that it was too much of a "war in the kitchen" after a while. I enjoyed that he would cook for me ALL THE TIME. but I never got to cook myself!!!!!
Just somethin' else to ponder.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Good point joyy-

Just poach a big bunch of bland chicken, cook up a batch of buttered noodles and rice and pack them into seven containers for reheating.
Then cook what you like.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Next time, it will be.
**sigh**
Now, please excuse me while I take my millionth chicken breast out of the freezer and prepare my millionth pot of white rice.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

The other option is to unburden yourself from the responsibility of feeding him. Yes, it's not that romantic and it's a little unconventional, but he is a grown man, right? He can feed himself, right? Just because you love to cook doesn't mean that you should shoulder yourself into bearing the responsibility for someone whose tastes are clearly driving you up a wall.

And when you feel like it's time to rotate something from his super limited menu into your more divers menu, it will be a treat that he appreciates more than if you just resigned yourself to cooking a handful of bland boring dinners for the remainder of the relationship. Or make BIG batches of things when you do cook for him that can be frozen and will last much longer if you need to assuage yourself from the guilt of abandoning him food-wise.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Picky eaters are a deal breaker for me in relationships. It would be tough to see myself dating a vegetarian (given my love of steak, chicken wings, sausages). I actually like a lot of vegetarian dishes so if they didn't care if I ate meat we could try to make it work. But it would be impossible to date a picky vegetarian, the kind who actually doesn't like vegetables and really only eats leaf lettuce with dressing, pasta, and potatoes.

Picky eating even strains friendships too. Those people have to know what's at a restaurant before eating. Never want to go someplace new unless it's a new TGI Friday's or Olive Garden.

"Why didn't you tell me you guys were going out to dinner?"
"But you don't want to try Indian food."
"You could pick a place everyone likes so we can all go out."
"But we wanted Indian food at that new place."

Even at the beach, "Hey let's go to that restaurant by the bay!"
"Do they have seafood? I can't go if it smells like fish. Will there be chicken there? I can eat chicken as long as it's not on the bone. Oh wait, there's onions and mushrooms. Is this cheese? I only like American."

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

This thread is fascinating! As my sons married and additional people were added to the mix, I found I had to add things to the menus for holidays because the new people had dislikes and I didn't want to not cook the old favorites so we just have a Lot of Food now. For every day though I thank my lucky stars that my beloved husband of 40 years eats everything except liver, a food without which I can certainly survive. He also cheerfully cleans the kitchen every night no matter how many dishes I have used. The more things you have in common to start with the better the chances of longevity of the relationship.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

"Then she told me she didn't like honey. 7 years and I'm now finding out that she doesn't like honey."

WTH! Who doesn't like honey?
Is all this chain of food hate some passive-aggressive form of punishment on the cook?

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Bottom line-

What do YOU want in a relationship?

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

If you're at a crossroads with him anyway, and you're not totally head over heels in love with him, then I say the food issue is a deal breaker. It sounds like you're a creative person, and you're already being limited by his pickiness. You have to eat at least three times a day, so this is just going to keep coming up.

Also, imagine what travel would be like - your honeymoon to some exotic place and he's picking things out of his food... Or worse, keeps wanting to hit up the McDonalds in the train station and then complains that the hamburger is seasoned differently.... Or worse yet, you don't end up traveling at all because he's afraid of the food.

The ability to cook is an asset and as someone else put it above, an expression of love. You should be with someone who appreciates it! I can't believe he refused to eat a sandwich you made him!!

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

I love this list, and, with the exception of # 23, I am heartily in agreement. When I am eating out, which is not all that often these days, I want the experience to be as good as it possibly can be. And, aside from the food, the etiquette (or lack thereof) of my server is what most affects that experience.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

@lemonfair - what a great idea! What would you put on this list?

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

I'd love to see a similar list for the chef, considering some of the things we know go on in the kitchen. It matters as much as what goes on in public.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Did anyone else hear the author of this article on NPR today? He said that he's never been a "professional waiter" but he waited tables in college, which to me sounded like he was trying to grant himself some kind of exemption from his own rules.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

My desire to order apps and drinks has less to do with a restaurant's bottom line as it has to do with the comfort of those of us who are waiting. I'm not "assuming" anything. If a DINNER reservation was made it stands to reason that at least one entree per diner will be ordered. This does not include salads, a la carte sides and additional cocktails. I state again with certainty that if I were ever refused seating because one member of my party was delayed, I'd go somewhere else. I'm extremely punctual to the point of OCD. If I'm on time with most of my party, I damn well better be seated or I'm happy to spend my money somewhere else. It's wise to make the customer happy under ideal circumstances but in this down economy it makes even more sense.

Sometimes the word "assume" is the most suitable to use in a particular sentence. The cutesy Felix Unger reference has become passe.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Therealchiffonade. You're assuming a reservation was made, assuming the 4th is coming shortly, assuming the first 3 will order apps and drinks, assuming the 4th will even order. We all know what happens when we assume.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

How would you know if drinks/ apps are going to be ordered? Should arestaurant have to deny a full party a table so an incomplete party canshare an app?

Because if a DINNER reservation was made, it's a safe assumption that DINNER will be ordered by each patron - even the one who's straggling.

Frankly, if I were to be denied a table because one member of a party or four or more was not present, I'd spend my money someplace else. It's downright rude to inconvenience diners like that. It's disrespectful - and very short sighted as I'm sure others feel as I do.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Most of this is entirely too pedantic for my tastes. I don't really care if the waiter asks me "How is everything?" or "Is there anything I can get for you"...just be polite and serve me my food in a timely manner.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

the list is...interesting, but I also gotta call BS...most of these rules are just personal preference...for instance, I WANT a waiter to give me a name; i EXPECT the waiter to guide me when I order...i expect a casual, easy-going tone...I want to know that the waiters are human beings that care about the food, the job, and importantly, me. they're not just robots.

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

Be age appropriate when calling a woman "miss" or "ma'am." I'm 23 (and look it) and people have been calling me "ma'am" for years... sometimes in the same interaction as asking for ID! I'd rather be called dude...

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100 (okay, 50) Things Restaurant Staffers Should Never Do

7. No flirting and no cuteness? Sorry, that totally depends on the restaurants and the guests. Maybe not in Midtown East, but certainly it's OK with a fun young table in the EV.

11. Telling the guests there are only two lobsters left, if there are, is entirely appropriate. They may really be looking forward to lobster and order them immediately. If there were 0 lobsters, you'd tell the guests along with the specials so you look like an ass if the last 2 sell and the guests go to order it and you say "sorry, we just ran out!"

14. "How is everything?" is just as bad as "Good choice!" Everything is assumed to be great unless you are told otherwise. When the guests get their food, a proper response is "Is there anything I can get for you?" and the guest then has the opportunity to tell you they want more sauce, or their steak is the wrong temperature, or any other issue.

10 & 43. Certainly give your opinion of which dishes are your favorite or are "great" IF asked. It is not irrelevant. Some dishes are better than others. The servers have tasted all of them. The guests may have different tastes and preferences than the server, but the server knows which dishes 10 other guests raved about that night. The guest will appreciate a good suggestion a lot more than being stuck with a mediocre dish.

A lot of the listed rules are spot-on. But nothing is set in stone. Again, the restaurant and the guests determine everything. I haven't been a server for 5 years now, but in the 7 years I was, I was consistently one of the best of each staff I worked on. The best skill a server can learn is interpreting the guest's needs. You don't want to make assumptions or prejudge anyone. But if if you know your menu and can read your guests, you can improve their experience 9 out of 10 times. Some guests don't want to be bothered and just want you to take their orders. Others want your guidance and are looking for you to enhance their experience. I call those" good customers".

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