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Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I live less than a mile away from Umami Burger and have been there three times. It's a great addition to the neighborhood and already a must-visit spot for any LA burger fan.
The Triple Pork (house-ground pork + bacon + chorizo) is so good I have to resist the temptation to order it every time, lest I never get the chance to sample the whole menu. Of the other burgers I've tried, the SoCal is very good - definitely reminiscent of an upscale In-n-Out - while the turkey is merely so-so.
My one big knock on the place is the fries. They're "triple cooked," which I'm sure takes a lot of time and effort. Unfortunately, what it doesn't do is deliver any potato taste. Jonathan Gold in LA Weekly called them "mealy" in an otherwise positive write-up. My strategy is to get the burgers to go and hit one La Brea's fast food joints on the way home for fries.
Adam, if you're reading this (and I hope you are), please please please toss out your fry recipe and find a new one. Otherwise, keep up the good work!
Um, Yeah, That's Not Really Pizza--Or a Burger
I grew up in Brooklyn so we knew all about pizza, but my mom actually made something similar with Pillsbury dough crust, ground beef, onions, tomato paste and mozzarella cheese. It was really good!
More Artichoke Craziness, But the Truth Hammer Rests
Filed under "he who throws stones," her name appears to be Hailey, not Haily.
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A Premium Burger at 25 Degrees in Hollywood, California
25 Degrees is still my favorite upscale burger joint, though I frequent Umami more often because it's in my neighborhood.
Damon, which would you rate higher, the burger at 25 Degrees or The Golden State? I appreciate the variety at 25D but can't find a combo I like better than the bacon cheeseburger at TGS.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I live less than a mile away from Umami Burger and have been there three times. It's a great addition to the neighborhood and already a must-visit spot for any LA burger fan.
The Triple Pork (house-ground pork + bacon + chorizo) is so good I have to resist the temptation to order it every time, lest I never get the chance to sample the whole menu. Of the other burgers I've tried, the SoCal is very good - definitely reminiscent of an upscale In-n-Out - while the turkey is merely so-so.
My one big knock on the place is the fries. They're "triple cooked," which I'm sure takes a lot of time and effort. Unfortunately, what it doesn't do is deliver any potato taste. Jonathan Gold in LA Weekly called them "mealy" in an otherwise positive write-up. My strategy is to get the burgers to go and hit one La Brea's fast food joints on the way home for fries.
Adam, if you're reading this (and I hope you are), please please please toss out your fry recipe and find a new one. Otherwise, keep up the good work!
Um, Yeah, That's Not Really Pizza--Or a Burger
I grew up in Brooklyn so we knew all about pizza, but my mom actually made something similar with Pillsbury dough crust, ground beef, onions, tomato paste and mozzarella cheese. It was really good!
More Artichoke Craziness, But the Truth Hammer Rests
Filed under "he who throws stones," her name appears to be Hailey, not Haily.
A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's
Next time, definitely order a second slice of cheese. You'll be glad you did.
The Bill's Hamburgers Experience in Van Nuys, California
Looks like another must-try burger to add to my list. Will definitely find my way there next time I'm in the Valley!
New York Observer's Top 10 Burgers
I have to admit that I haven't been to Bonnie's in a few years. When I'm next in Brooklyn I'll try to sample them again to see if they've dropped off in quality as much as everyone seems to think.
New York Observer's Top 10 Burgers
Sorry, Adam, but some of us really like the burger there.
I guess you have to either love the spice crust or loathe it.
Los Angeles Area Burger Roundup
Bob's Big Boy is definitely worth a trip, especially to the Burbank one that still has the classic look and feel. I find their burgers to be a bit greasy, but in a way that tastes really good while I'm eating it (if I try hard not to think about my arteries closing up).
Father's Office is a must-try. The new one in Culver CIty seems to be a bit easier to manage than the original in Santa Monica. It's an eccentric take a on a burger that I find tasty but, to me, doesn't really match the flavor profile I associate with "burger."
If I'm in the mood for a sweet-and-salty caramelized onion/blue cheese/ground beef sandwich on a french roll with a great draft beer, Father's Office is the place. But if I'm looking for pickles, ketchup or any other kind of cheese - which is more often the case - I head elsewhere.
AHT Alum Weighs in on Park Slope Burgers
Have any of you ever watched a burger being made at Bonnie's? Every patty is dipped in a spice mix before it gets cooked, which forms a slightly charred, spice crust. I ordered mine medium rare, and got it that way every time.
If you don't want the char, spice and crust, ask them to leave it off which they happily will. And check the specials menu, as they sometimes offer exotic burgers (veal, pork) usually with special toppings and w/o the spice crust.
I live in LA now, but when I lived on Garfield in the Slope, this was my go-to local spot for burgers.
America's Heroes, Grinders, Subs, and More
Great post on a vital topic! All those photos above have my stomach growling with the memories of four years spent at the legendary Hoagie Haven in Princeton:
I must have eaten at least 2 sandwiches a week from them. My meal of choice was the "pizza cheesesteak" - cheesesteak cooked flat, provolone cheese and tomato sauce. To that, I would add grilled onions, shredded iceberg lettuce and a little bit of ketchup for sweetness.
I wonder if my digestive track could still handle one of these?
L.A.'s Pizza Wars: Joe's vs. Vito's
@ErikM - Thanks for the inside info on Garage. I guess in a city where you have so few decent places to buy pizza buy the slice, there are bound to be connections.
I went by one of the Mulberry's in Beverly Hills. It looked interesting, I'm going to have to give them a try.
Speaking of Mulberry St., does anyone know anywhere in LA to get a vodka sauce and fresh mozz slice? I used to get them in NY at a place on Spring and Mulberry, though you'd have to fight through a crowd of LIttle Italy tourists to get to the counter. It's a combination I find myself craving.
L.A.'s Pizza Wars: Joe's vs. Vito's
It's important to distinguish between the best pizza and the best slice. Mozza is by far the best pizza (second in my heart only to Franny's in Brooklyn), but it's not a place to grab a quick on-the-go slice. Vito's offers the best slice in LA, though clearly not all toppings are created equally.
The two times I've been to Joe's I've been hugely disappointed.
The slices at Village Pizza are not recommend. Unlike a NY slice which is fully cooked yet gains something on second heating, the slice at Village is actually undercooked originally so that they can finish cooking it when you order it. The result is that you wait 10 minutes for a slice that's scalding hot yet insufficiently charred. Not good.
I had a surprisingly good slice at Garage Pizza in Silverlake. Good solid slice, about average for a NY slice but way above for LA. The owner really knows what he's doing and seems eager to experiment with interesting toppings based on customer feedback.
Pie 'N Burger a Purely Californian Experience
I hope you get to review Twenty Five Degrees and Cassell's while you're in town.
25D and PNB are currently my two favorite spots, but Cassell's offers a good burger too.
My sandwich of choice at 25D is one I like to think of as a quasi-ruben burger:
Turkey burger, gruyere, crispy proscuitto, sauerkraut, arugula and thousand island dressing.
Pie 'N Burger a Purely Californian Experience
I had my first Pie 'N Burger last Friday and completely agree - the Apple Pan has a great history and nostalgia value, but it can't compete with PNB on taste. My cheeseburger with grilled onions was sublime. Next time, though, I'm going to have to try those fries!
Why Do McCain's People Need to Hate On Arugula?
In Australia, they call it "rocket."
I think Americans of all political stripes would be a lot more excited about eating it if we called it that too.
In Los Angeles, Fred 62's Jucy Lucy Is Like In-N-Out on Steroids
Chalk me up as another naysayer on the In-n-Out fries. Like salted cardboard.
Slice Walk: Park Slope
I traded Park Slope for Los Angeles a couple of years ago, but I still pine for the pizza. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
Although I can't argue with your slice analysis, my favorite whole pie was a meatball and peppers pie from Joe's on 7th (they make really tasty meatballs), and my favorite unusual slices were the ones on offer at Pino's.
Dear Slice: Can You Complete My Pizza Itinerary?
@Lance: I can't say I've tasted as far and as wide as you have, but I too have been on a quest for a great LA pizza. Mozza and Vito's are definitely high on my list.
Joe's in Santa Monica isn't bad but it's a bit too far for me to drive to on a whim. And it's nowhere near as good as the actual Joe's of Bleecker (or Joe's in Park Slope, or the original Joe's when they were on the corner of Bleecker & Carmine, which is the best of all possible Joe's!)
Definitely check out the pizzas at Bloom (go2bloom.com). I like the "lamb sausage & sweet peppers" and the "rosemary comte cheese and potato." Or if you want something more traditional, start with the plain (sauce/mozz/basil) and build from there.
For those times I don't want to wait for a spot at the bar at Mozza but want something similar, my fallbacks are Terroni on Beverly, Cube on La Brea (their whole menu is spectacular, but they're a little generous with the salt) and Little Dom's on Hillhurst.
I have yet to try Casa Bianca. Thanks for reminding me about it!
Oh - and if you do make it to Otto (and you really should) be sure to order the Sardinian Iced Tea and the Olive Oil Gelato. Both are worth going out of your way for.
Dear Slice: Can You Complete My Pizza Itinerary?
As a New Yorker living in Los Angeles, I cannot recommend the slices at Village Pizzeria on Larchmont.
Unlike NY pizzerias, they don't cook their pies all the way through. Instead, they pull them out still pale and partially cooked, until you order a slice, at which point they heat it for about 10 minutes to finish cooking it.
In my experience, this results in a slice that is scalding hot yet still tastes underdone.
I think you'd do OK if you ordered a whole pie from them, from scratch, but avoid the slices.
Deep-Fried Cheese-Stuffed Cheeseburger Made from Bacon
How to push that envelope? Serve it between two pancakes with a bit pat of maple butter.
Tough Pizza Critics on 'The Office'
But wait - it gets better: the Office producers have made it known that they try to incorporate real Scranton businesses into their episodes. And, evidently, there really is an Alfredo's Pizza Cafe in Scranton. Nice shout out!
I Like Flat Buns and I Cannot Lie
I realize I may be going out on a limb on this one, but I've enjoyed a "cheeseburger club" sandwich at a diner near Rockefeller Center. Three slices of toast, melted cheese, typical burger patty, bacon, lettuce and tomato. Somehow, the toast brings something to the party that the usual diner bun doesn't.
I wouldn't eat ALL or even MOST of my burgers this way, but it's a nice change of pace and definitely still a burger in my book.
A Premium Burger at 25 Degrees in Hollywood, California
Save your money, folks. The burger at 25 Degrees is a sad affair. Today, the service was both inattentive and poorly timed. But on to the food. Great rings and tasty fries. The burger meat itself is great--one is keenly aware that it is sirloin, and that is a good thing. Sadly, both burgers were overcooked, and the bun is a disaster. The top of bun was tough and dry enough to make a "thock" sound when tapped with a fingernail. It basically overwhelmed the burger with dry joylessness. The bottom of the bun, also a shamefully overbaked puck of parched, crumbling sadness.The cheese was not melted over the burger, but simply served as an unmelted pile of gunk in the center of the burger, which had so be scraped from the bun and then spread.
The high point is that the waitress must have stuffed two angels down the back of her pants to present such a compelling view. So, the highlights---Good sides, good sights, good sirloin.
Overview: 25 Degrees is a weak suck and can be avoided.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Just perfect---the meat to bun ratio is ideal to the last bite. I had the Manly Burger, and the porkbelly was a perfect addition. The ketchup was heavy on the anise, but the burger didn't need it. This is my favorite burger next to the one at Olives in Las Vegas at the Bellagio and the one at the Left Bank at the On The Ave hotel in NYC's Upper West Side. Umami is my new "go to" burger in LA.
Slice Walk: Park Slope
Paulie, the Artichoke slice did look good, and the toppings were very much so.....but man, the crust on mine was nearly hard enough to be able to bury the edge of the slice into someone's noggin!
Even still, it was a good slice. With a more pliant crust it would have given Dom a run for the money. I'll be sure to check out New Park Pizza next time I'm up in NYC. Thanks for the tip. --PB
Slice Walk: Park Slope
@pizzablogger From looks alone, I'd vote for the slice from Artichoke. I've had one too and I found it to be very similar to DiFara. And the wait was shorter. But the pizzaiolo didn't have the charm of Gepeto. If you would have conferred with me prior to your journey I would have sent you to my favorite slice joint, New Park Pizza in Howard Beach. Here's my favorite slice shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliegee/482091957/in/set-72157607581050058/
The Sicilian is just OK:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliegee/752072964/in/set-72157607581050058/
Ciao,
Paulie Gee
Slice Walk: Park Slope
Adam, this was such a timely issue. Along with having already scoped out the Brooklyn pizza map, this article really sealed the deal for me going to Tomato & Basil when I was planning my day long journey.
As with every place I went to, I went to the counter and simply ordered a "slice". What I was given at T&B looks a little different than what you got, but it sure was a tasty slice. Thanks again!
http://www.pizzablogger.org/index.php/2009/07/15/road-trips/slicecapades-v1-0/
Pie 'N Burger a Purely Californian Experience
I like both Pie n'Burger and Apple Pan. Reviewer doesn't mention the pies at Pie n'Burger and it's just as well as they don't really compete with Apple Pan, even though the latter has only two varieties (apple and pecan).
As for the burgers themselves, it's a tough choice but I would give Apple Pan the edge again for a better built burger and more flavor. I don't understand the member who says they're 'sweet', an adjective that would never cross my mind when describing AP's burgers. I know that people who drink a lot of alcohol often find that most food tastes 'sweet' to them. I don't mean that as any kind of insult to the member, not saying he's an alkie or anything! Just that palates differ immensely according to culinary habits. I doubt *most* burger tasters would find AP burgers 'sweet.'
The comparison between Pn'B and In'O is apt, they remind me of one another a lot. I spend a lot more time in Pasadena than W LA but I consider Apple Pan more of a 'special' taste experience. Anyway they're both great!
Slice Walk: Park Slope
I stumbled upon Tomato and Basil last weekend as I was coming out of the subway on my way to a birthday party. I was very hungry and went in to get a quick slice and a Coke, and it was soooo good I had to order a second slice. I don't get in to that neighborhood often, but when I do a stop at T&B will be the first order of business.
Slice Walk: Park Slope
I stumbled upon Tomato and Basil last weekend as I was coming out of the subway on my way to a birthday party. I was very hungry and went in to get a quick slice and a Coke, and it was soooo good I had to order a second slice. I don't get in to that neighborhood often, but when I do a stop at T&B will be the first order of business.
A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's
I first wrote about Cassell's in the L.A. Times Sunday Magazine, West, callling it "best in city." I wrote two more pieces, one in Oui, still posted on the wall, and in Rolling Stone (of all places). I spent a lot of time with Al Cassell, and know a thing or two about the history of the place. He started it after WW2 on Wilshire, across from the wonderful building then known as Bullock's Wilshire (now home to Southwestern Law School). When the landlord made it impossible for him to stay, he moved to the SE corner of 6th and Berendo. It was as bare-bones an operation as it is today in terms of decor: Al said that after his experience with that landlord, he would never invest in furnishings: all he prized was his double broiler (and his food). It was then known as Cassell's Patio, because Al made a deal with the apartment building next door to set up tables on a little patio on the apartment building's south side.
About 20 years ago, a family of butchers made Al (who was pretty tired of arriving at 5:30 to trim and grind the meat, make the mayo, etc.) what sounded like a great offer: they'd maintain standards, and expand, and he would share in profits from the new locations. Well, they started serving fries. (When I asked Al why he didn't, he said, "It isn't my picture." He saw himself as a painter.) Worse, they didn't cut him in on any revenue from the other locations (I remember one on Wilshire, in the mini-mall at Crescent Heights). Al got the place back...and sold to Koreans. They kept the standards pretty well at first...but expanded the menu to turkey burgers and veggie burgers.
There was a slide, I think, but at my most recent (albeit infrequent) visit, younger Koreans were at the register, and the quality was clearly back.
About what Al did and didn't make. Yes, mayo (!), yes lemonade (from Grade A lemons, he pointed out), yes potato salad (putting in a liberal dose of Colman's English mustard powder), yes a ketchup relish (but not ketchup itself -- that was Heinz), and yes, Roquefort salad dressing (using real Roquefort cheese).
If the "best days" seem behind Cassell's, in part that's a demographic issue: way back when, the mid-Wilshire area was filled at lunchtime with middle-class shoppers and office workers.
Is Cassell's burger the "best in the world"? Now that upscale luxe restaurants are serving up Kobe beef burgers, I guess not, although I believe that for a "commercial" burger, Cassell's is still in the money in any best burger race.
A Premium Burger at 25 Degrees in Hollywood, California
@jbuffalo - thanks so much for the huzzah and bonus points for dropping in the "gallimaufry."
@oneiron - certainly price matters, and this burger is no cheap eat, but I think I'd say it's worth it for a special treat burger. is the "oneiron" a golf reference, if so kudos! Watch out for some golf themed posts in the future.
@mattatouille - thanks! This is indeed a "luxe burger."
@Schimming - I'll have to try Burger Lounge -- La Jolla isn't too far away.
@chrisatdomainerestaurants - glad you enjoyed it. kudos to you all on the good burger. happy to contact you. happy to talk to all our AHT readers!
@awkwardcabbage - Thanks so much. I really appreciate the support. Glad you liked the review! Two snaps up and a twist right back 'atcha!
@dzhughes - you are mucho generous. Thanks, mate!
@shred - Ok. This is a tough one. First off, I love The Golden State and think Jason and James are superstars. They've built a great cafe and I encourage everyone to support it. 25 Degrees is also a seriously good burger. Personally, I find the bacon at TGS distracting, but then again I usually feel bacon is misplaced atop burger. For me, it distracts from the clean beef taste I crave. The TGS burger sans bacon gives me just that. The 25D burger is a more extravagant burger taste. My choice of one over the other might be mostly based on my burger mood.
A Premium Burger at 25 Degrees in Hollywood, California
You finally found a good burger. Next time you go there just ask for half the cheese, just rings, and kill the shake, and I bet it will be 100% perfect!
*living vicariously*
A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's
I used to go there in the '80s, and Mr. Cassell was still there, it was THE best burger in LA, and at that time besides the mayonaise being made from scratch, so was the ketchup and mustard. The potato salad was killer and they also had a fantastic grilled ham and cheese sandwich on the thinnest rye bread. Haven't been there since the change in ownership, after reading your article and the comments, will try it again.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I went last week, and whiule I was a skeptic beforehand, I'm now a believer. I think this is on the very short list for best burger in L.A (with the Kobe at Lucky Devil's being my other current favorite).
A couple of gripes:
1) As at Lucky Devil's (and Father's Office), the "pre-packaged" burgers get in the way. I frankly didn't want either the "Umami" burger OR the "SoCal" burger - but instead just a burger, medium rare, with cheese so as to be able to judge the burger on the taste of the base components, and not accessories. I felt compelled to order the SoCal burger, but next time I will request the butter lettuce, sauce, etc. to be left off. I don;t think they brought much to the table.
2) The fries, the fries, the fries. Maxcriden, your pictures indicate that at least for a little while they ventures away from the ultra-thick fries. I wish they had continued that experiment. I don't 4 or 5 "fries" that taste more like mashed potatoes with a crispy covering. This place really needs some version of traditional fries. Why is it such a problem? Not everything on the menu needs to be groundbreaking.
3) No wine and beer/corkage. I'm sorry, but the 5 dollar corkage needs to go if they're not going to have wine or beer available. If you're bringing a $40 bottle of wine to a steakhouse, which already has its own wine list, $5 corkage would seem like an excellent value, but this is a burger joint, and all I want is a glass or two of beer or wine. If I need to go across the streeet to buy a beer, I shouldn't have to pay an additional $5 to drink it. That's just ridiculous.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Great review but I disagree about the So Cal burger. My wife had the Umami and I thought my So Cal burger was way better after tasting hers. She liked mine better too. Killer onion rings, but not a fan of the house ketchup with anchovies. I think I'll sneak in some good old Heinz ketchup on my next visit!
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
@Damon - where might I hit you up for such recommendations? I see no email link on the site. Thanks!
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Here are my totally amateurish pics from today's jaunt to Umami:
Umami Burger and Fries:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxcriden/3363682793/
Umami Burger, sans top bun:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxcriden/3363683063/
Mexican Coke and Abita Root Beer (both with real sugar, I think--yum!):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxcriden/3364503980/
Market Salad with Manchego (by request), Mandarin Oranges (that or baby tangerines, I don't recall which), and Chili-Chipotle Dressing:
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
@mangabanga - I encourage a vibrant back and forth in the comments. ;)
@maxcriden - Glad you enjoyed your burger and I hope to live up to the devotion in the future. Feel free to drop me a line if you want some other LA recommendations.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Just arrived in LA for the first time in 3 years, and the first place I go? Umami Burger, just as any devoted Gambuto reader might. It was really superb.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Damon, are we allowed to tell other posters to shut up?
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I still say it's a regrettably named restaurant with a product that, while it may be very tasty, likely has little more umami than any other burger. It's like calling your restaurant "Glutamate Receptor-Pleasing Burger," "Delicious Burger," "Savory Burger," etc. The word "umami" is no more unique to their restaurant and burger than "sweet," "salty," "sour" or "bitter."
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
this is looks great! thanks for reporting. i gotta check it out. btw...i dunno about the place that was there before but i love korean tacos. have you tried a galbi taco? dont knock it til you try it.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
@pthom: Yeah, that was so incredibly confusing. "Words" are so hard to make out sometimes.
@serious1: People who draw analogies from "Dharma and Greg" episodes (yeah, I searched your commenting past, punk) really have no business commenting on the literary prowess of others.
Nice post, Damon.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
Reporting back...I went on saturday night and it was so SO so incredible. My two friends really enjoyed it too - so buttery and rich, yet we all agreed that we could have had another. I got the Port/Stilton and they each had the Umami. I'll go back very soon. It was packed, but service was great. Wish we would have brought some wine like most of the other patrons. Oh, and I luv Damon's writing - back off ya'll :)
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I ended up coming in on Sunday, just before they ran out of hamburger meat (oh no!) Me and the partner ordered a blue cheese burger and their house specialty Umami Burger, with the intentions of sharing. He liked his so much, he refused to share though, which is a pretty high recommendation.
The bun was absolutely incredible, just a little sweet, soft, but with enough heft that it absorbed the juices without falling apart. And that was important, because that was the juiciest hamburger I'd ever had! A crispy, caramelized outside had a wonderful, medium well interior that just leaked meaty, perfectly seasoned juiciness. I thought I cooked good burgers at home, but now I have to go back to the drawing board: this place entirely redefined what a good hamburger is to me.
Really wanted a chocolate malt afterwards. :-) That would be just divine.
Discovering the Fifth Taste at Umami Burger in Los Angeles
I wish I wasn't on the east coast, sounds like a great place.
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25 Degrees is still my favorite upscale burger joint, though I frequent Umami more often because it's in my neighborhood.
Damon, which would you rate higher, the burger at 25 Degrees or The Golden State? I appreciate the variety at 25D but can't find a combo I like better than the bacon cheeseburger at TGS.