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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

Okay- I am not one to regularly buy organics but I have friends who are very dedicated to the movement and I had one comment to make in regards to thick skinned fruits like bananas and oranges. They are not immune to the pesticides just because they have a thick inedible skin. As many people have already cited, the pesticides get into both the water and soil so when conventional produce is sprayed, the chemicals are not just on the surface of the fruit, they get inside and thick skin on fruit cannot prevent that.

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If I didn't eat one, I'd eat 8
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With buns soft as a dove
I might ask one out on a date!

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Have You Eaten Burgers Made With Fruit?

I read many articles a while back about schools putting blueberries in their hamburgers to give them a nutritional boost so kids would get more fruit in their diets-- According to the articles, the burgers were well received and the kids did not really notice a difference in taste.

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

Okay- I am not one to regularly buy organics but I have friends who are very dedicated to the movement and I had one comment to make in regards to thick skinned fruits like bananas and oranges. They are not immune to the pesticides just because they have a thick inedible skin. As many people have already cited, the pesticides get into both the water and soil so when conventional produce is sprayed, the chemicals are not just on the surface of the fruit, they get inside and thick skin on fruit cannot prevent that.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

Burgers are really great
If I didn't eat one, I'd eat 8
Good beef I do love
With buns soft as a dove
I might ask one out on a date!

From A Hamburger Today

Have You Eaten Burgers Made With Fruit?

I read many articles a while back about schools putting blueberries in their hamburgers to give them a nutritional boost so kids would get more fruit in their diets-- According to the articles, the burgers were well received and the kids did not really notice a difference in taste.

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

Great points @Meat Guy!

I like my vegetables organic, and my Mars Bar non-organic. Isn't compromise fantastic?!

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

Methane is a byproduct of the bacterial flora in a cows digestive tract. it is there to break down the complex carbohydrates in grass to digestible food. That is why they have 4 stomachs and regurgitate cud, it is symbiotic, just like the bacterial flora in your system breaking down complex carbohydrates and producing methane when you have improperly washed beans or White Castle hamburgers. Grass fed ruminants produce methane as their food is digested, corn has nothing to do with it, if anything, the sugars in corn are more easily digested as they are simple sugars, and don't require enzyme activity or bacterial fermentation to make them usable by the body.

All this string has shown me is that Organic is a religion to the devout, nonbelievers are heretics are fools. There should be a happy medium in between. There is not enough organic fertilizer of farmland available to feed the world with organic practices. Tyson and Smithfield are damned as factory farmers, chicken, cattle and hog waste are pollution, but where are the organic growers who need the manure to fertilize? if they were gone, and farming went back to small, they would not have enough manure to be sustainable..

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

@mbhebert - you do know that if cows were fed what their bodies are made to eat (that green stuff that grows on the ground, I'm pretty sure it's called grass) instead of basically indigestible corn (how does your fecal matter look after eating it?) that they would produce a lot less methane, right???

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

The "organic" food movement may have started out as a move toward a healthier way of life, but it has, for all intents and purposes, become a marketing ploy. It has become trendy, and when something like that becomes trendy, it often loses much of its original purpose. Since the USDA is in direct control of what is labeled "organic" in the US, lobbyists and large industries are able to direct what is "organic" to suit their needs as producers, rather than our desires as consumers. From Wikipedia: "In December 2005, the 2006 agricultural appropriations bill was passed with a rider allowing 38 synthetic ingredients to be used in organic foods. Among the ingredients are food colorings, starches, sausage and hot-dog casings, hops, fish oil, chipotle chili pepper, and gelatin. This allowed Anheuser-Busch in 2007 to have its Wild Hop Lager certified organic 'even though [it] uses hops grown with chemical fertilizers and sprayed with pesticides.' "

As a person who likes to make conscientious food choices, this displeases me. The bigger the organic industry gets, the more loopholes there will be to allow them to market questionable items as organic. What's more, many small operations can't even afford to be tested and labeled organic, even though they may employ purer and more sustainable means of production than the heavy-hitters.

Personally, I think the answer is to buy local and grow your own food when possible. Not only does buying local impact the local economy much more directly (and positively), but it has the added benefit of allowing you to form a relationship with the people who actually produce your food. And even though organic and conventional taste about the same most of the time (they do--I used to work at a natural foods grocery in the deli, so I ate a lot of organic food), local produce and meat usually tastes leagues better to me than the grocery store versions. To this day, I haven't had a grocery-store tomato that is as good as the tomatoes my grandmother used to grow in her garden; they are all weak and pale imitations. Add to the fact that you're paying a hefty fuel cost for food that travels from distant locations, and it's kind of a no-brainer.

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

@shnickyy, ask your friends why they think organic fertilizers and pesticides are healthier for them and for the environment than nonorganic. Poison is poison, whether it's naturally derived or created in a lab.

As far as sprayed pesticides getting into the water and the soil and then into the plants, that argument's pretty flawed. If something is in the soil and water, it's not going to stay on one farm. Go out to farmland on a dry windy day and see how far the dust goes in a few minutes. And the water table doesn't have barriers at the limits of the farms. Unless your organic farm is under a bubble and is using pure filtered water, it's sharing the environment will all the surrounding farms. For hundreds and thousands of miles. Think about how far the volcanic dust was found when Mt St. Helens blew its top. Dirt travels a long way.

Sprayed pesticides -- the ones that you use to get rid of pesty bugs -- very often have a very short lifespan. They break down in a short period of time into things that are completely inert. Pick up a bottle at a local gardening center. It will tell you how many hours you should keep your pets away, and how many days before you should pick and eat the vegetables. They don't last forever, and they don't get into soil or water because they break down in a short period of time, so there's nothing left to get into the soil. The stuff you get in a gardening center isn't exactly the same as what farmers use, but it's the same general idea.

Much of what environmentalists are worried about in farm runoff is the overuse of fertilizers. Too much nitrogen (a very organic item) is an issue in streams. Yes, there are some issues with nasty pesticides getting into streams, too, but the overuse of organic pesticides is no better than the overuse or synthetic ones. Poor farming methods are poor farming methods whether you're an organic farmer or a conventional one.

There are pesticides (systemic) that are put into the soil that the plant can absorb through the root system, but the ones I'm aware of are generally used for ornamental rather than edible plants. But the formula has to be right for the plants to be able to absorb the pesticide and for it to do its job in keeping bugs away...so even if those sprayed pesticides got into the soil, it doesn't mean the plants would necessarily be able to absorb them.

Of course, there are farms that don't use pesticides at all, and who rotate crops and use mulches and make compost. But an organic label doesn't guarantee any of that. At the farmer's market I go to, one of the farms that I buy a lot of veggies from uses those sorts of practices. But here's the kicker. They aren't certified organic. They decided it wasn't worth the trouble and expense to get certified. But their veggies are probably closer to what most people think the organic label means than the stuff with the label at the grocery store.

I'm with @chiff on being annoyed with people who see the organic label and think it means all sorts of things that it doesn't. I need a little more research and a little more proof before I jump on a bandwagon. There are plenty of things in the organic movement that I agree with, but there's also a lot of misinformation and hype.

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Study finds: Organic food is no healthier than conventional

@shnickyy: I don't think people are proposing that thick-skinned stuff are immune to pesticides, just that if you had to make a choice, those would be lower on the list as far as cost effectiveness goes.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

Burgers with dill pickles and onions go so well
Living without them would surely be hell
I love them medium rare the best
Come and join me and eat one as my guest.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

La Frieda Black Label Burgers are the best.
Just put your taste buds to the test.
Just one burger and you'll agree.
They taste the best to you and me!


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La Frieda's Black Label
Displayed on the table
Grilled to perfection
Personal satisfaction
Better than horse from a stable

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I can't really get into vegan
Living on a snap pea or a raisin
When there's burger grillin'
There's nothing more thrillin'
One whiff of A-1 and I'm crazin'.

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There once was a place called “Fred’s”.
Known for the “World’s best burgers” it’s said.
With lots of hot gooey cheddar cheese.
And raw onions that will make you sneeze.
Oh so yummy but afterwards you will want to go to bed.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

There once was a man from Nantucket,
Who wouldn't chew his burger, he sucked it.
With the straw that he used
He also sipped booze,
that he carried with him in a bucket.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

There once was a chef named Pete.
His specialty: hamburger meat.
He patted and pounded,
Shaped it and rounded,
Until he expired from the feat.

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It started with Grade A meat
Aged cheese, for a gourmet treat,
The cheese was so ripe
Guests started to gripe,
"It smells bad! Like stinking feet!"

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

I made a burger so delicious
That it actually made people vicious
It's a burger so rare
You just wouldn't dare
to serve it on any old dishes

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

I once made a burger out of bacon
After one taste, I was exclaimin'
"I must make this again!"
I ran to the pen
and all the piggies were a shakin'

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

For lunch my burger was kind of large,
Two Kobe beef patties they were shish-kabobed
Sauteed onions, cheese, bacon and a slice of cake
Chased it all down with a chocolate shake

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

Hamburger, hamburger where are thee.
You are on the grill just waiting for me.
Sizzling and cooking while I patiently wait.
I place you upon a bun that on my plate.
You look devine with condements galore.
I take a bite and of course want one more.
Hamburger, Hamburger I cannot do without
I'm sure we'll meet again sometime, that I have no doubt.

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

hamburger hamburger on a bun
tasty and juicy and so much fun
so yummy and satisfying for my gutt
one too many go right to my butt

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

There once was a burger, so nice.
But I thought that it needed some spice.
So I added Jalapeno,
You ask, was I sane? NO!
But "HOT' is my favorite vice!

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Seriously Delicious Super Bowl Party Giveaway: La Frieda Black Label Burgers

There once was a burger so delectable
It was difficult to eat being respectable,
With juice running down my chin,
And sauces being sucked in,
The deliciousness was quite believable!

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