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Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Korin Knife
It fits in my hand. It has great balance. After years, my hand just knows what it's going to do when I use it. 9" Wusthof culinar
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Korin Knife
I have a 9" wustoff culinar that I use for everything and can't live without.
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Filet Mignon Roast from Pat LaFrieda Meats
Lately it's been the sirloin. A local place has it dry aged and prime grade. It has more flavor than the tender cuts. It's still tender because of the quality.
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Roasted Brussels Sprouts with Caramelized Onions and Bacon
Posted by Kumiko Mitarai, February 8, 2010 at 8:55 AM
Dinner Tonight: Pasta with Broccoli, Goat Cheese, and Oregano
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brownbag answered "No way, and I don't know anyone else who does that." to Do You Eat Burgers Around the Periphery Towards the Center?
Poll posted by Robyn Lee, January 6, 2011 at 9:00 AM
brownbag answered "Yes! I love ice cream no matter the season. " to Do You Eat Ice Cream In The Cold?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, December 7, 2010 at 11:15 AM
brownbag answered "Fresh Nutmeg " to What Kind of Nutmeg Do You Use?
Poll posted by Erin Zimmer, December 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM
brownbag answered "Other (write in below!)" to What type of turkey are you cooking for Thanksgiving?
Poll posted by J. Kenji López-Alt, November 23, 2010 at 3:00 PM
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Perfect Prime Rib
There are not going to be drippings. You want it at the lowest temp you can keep it at. I did mine at my parents place and found the temp the oven said it was at -- it's a fancy convection with digital programming -- was off 15 degrees. I used my probe to track the temp. Drop to 140 if possible and don't let it go over about 122. After it hits that temp, use your probe to track the temp in the oven and hold it at about 110-115 degrees as long as necessary.
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Korin Knife
It fits in my hand. It has great balance. After years, my hand just knows what it's going to do when I use it. 9" Wusthof culinar
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Korin Knife
I have a 9" wustoff culinar that I use for everything and can't live without.
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Filet Mignon Roast from Pat LaFrieda Meats
Lately it's been the sirloin. A local place has it dry aged and prime grade. It has more flavor than the tender cuts. It's still tender because of the quality.
Chicago Essential: Pizzeria Due
As a youth, I would get to go into work with Dad a couple times a year. This was the mid 60's. He worked at the AMA (American Medical Association). It is now a parking lot. He would always call over to Due's for a lunch reservation. We'd arrive and check our coats with the coat check girl. It was dark and filled with business men working on bourbon, beer and pizza. I only remember three things on the menu. Small, medium and large. There was one pizza. It was sausage, and it was really great. By 1980 it was bright lights and garish, order and wait until the pizza is cooked to be seated. I could see the room that used to be the coat check, but it was empty. Now, it's just a good memory and a trip to Lou Malnati's, or similar, is the preferred place to go.
Drinking the Bottom Shelf: Old Overholt Rye
Old Overholt good. Jim Beam Rye, cheaper and just as good. No offense to the guy above liking Wild Turkey 100, get the Rittenhouse 100. Great price and the best top shelf Rye priced at a bottom shelf level.
Orem, UT: Satisfying Burgers Far From the Boardwalk at Coneys Frozen Custard
I've been working my way through the 75 burger places, and it basically proves we have no really good fast food style burgers in Utah. There's some very good gourmet and some good pub style burgers, but not much in fast food style. I ate here as a Judge for a Best of Utah Dining award. It was one of about 85 places I went to in six weeks. The burger is better than the average burger. It beats the In N Out down the street, but it's the custard that's the star. Don't go out of your way for it, but if you're in the neighborhood and don't want to go to SmashBurger down the street. This is the next best bet.
What to Eat On Martha's Vineyard
What a surprise seeing Crimelli sausages in the picture. It's a local Salt Lake City treasure.
Time for a Drink: the Apple Blow Fizz
Well balanced and fresh. It really needs the 100 proof over the 80 with the Applejack. "Pucker"??? I guess that explains the rest of the comment.
Cross-Border Shopping Guide: Canada
Canadian Oreo Cookies are so much better. I also really like Maltesers. It's what malt balls are supposed to taste like.
Cocktail 101: How to Make Simple Syrup
If it's not high volume, but home use. Just use Agave syrup. It's the same sweetness as rich simple syrup and easy to get. It's lasts a long time without going bad too.
Chain Reaction: Fuddruckers
The problem with Fuddruckers is the same as many casual restaurant chains. The quality of the burger is directly related to the monkey manning the grill. It's a new college student every week where we live. They squish the meat to squeeze out all the moisture and then cook it well done, no matter how you ask for it.
I've been to other ones that are good. I wish our local one was.
Hey, Foodies: (Some) Chefs Hate You
If I had food allergies I'd ask the restaurant what they had, or could do, to meet my needs. If I told a restaurant to switch sauces around for me, I'd be the ass**** mentioned above. I didn't see anything in the original quotes saying all "foodies" were ass****s.
I love good food. I expect a restaurant to put out food that matches, or exceeds, what they "advertise". I have very different expectations from a $35 an entrée. ala carte, white tablecloth, restaurant than I do from a roadside diner. I do not expect to tell the chef what to make, or how to make it. If I don't like it, I'll move on to another place, another day. Eventually, I'll find the good places. They appreciate that I like what they do, I appreciate their food. Some places actually starting asking my opinion on new dishes. That's something I've earned, not demanded, or expected by being a pretentious jerk.
Dear AHT: What Are NYC's 'Must Eat' Burgers? Here Are Our Favorites
Thanks for pointing out the link location. Somehow I didn't see it. It's not a public Google map, but I don't care. I'm more than happy seeing the link location below the map. Thanks.
Dear AHT: What Are NYC's 'Must Eat' Burgers? Here Are Our Favorites
You need to post this map, and others like it on Google maps so we can download it to our points of interest sections of the GPS. You've already done the hard part making it, please either make it public on Google Maps, or provide private links on AHT.
A Sandwich A Day: 'Machine Gun' from Bruges, Salt Lake City
@square_pie: You can probably ask for it to be done your way, but I appreciate that by default it's made the same way it was when I was purchasing it at a
Christmas market booth in Brugges.
@Monsieur_Ghislain. It's the real stuff. There's lots of sauces for the Frites.
Salt Lake City: Tracking Utah's Pastrami Burger at Crown Burgers
@David - Sorry I missed your comment. I have been to High Mountain Drug as an Food judge for a well known judging I can't talk about since I'm an anonymous judge. It's a very good burger. Better than the CB regular burger. They also do amazing shakes and the location can't be beat.
@BryGuille - Copper Onion is the best burger so far. Of the gourmet burgers at nicer places, Communal's is very good. The Owl Bar/Foundry Grill is excellent. The one at J&G Grill is pretty good. I haven't tried Sage, or Stein's, but they are both on my list.
I did the SE Hamburger Today review for Copper Onion. I have a couple more to do up, but I've been lazy.
Salt Lake City: Tracking Utah's Pastrami Burger at Crown Burgers
Although the burgers at all the Greek places are very similar, the CB in downtown seems to be more consistent, and better, than the ones down here in Orem and Provo. The pastrami is grissely and the patty can be even more overdone.
I had been meaning to get to Cotton Bottom Inn for years. Finally made it -- and I could not finish the burger. My wife couldn't either. The french bread needs to be toasted, or something. It's just doughey, and not in a good way. The burger is a Sysco frozen patty with garlic powder sprinkled on it and then overcooked. SL Magazine said that too when they put it on the 75 burgers you have to eat. I saw the frozen patty being tossed on the grill and powder sprinkled when I left the exit that goes through the kitchen. We were there on a Sunday afternoon. Maybe worse than normal then. Perhaps at one point it was real garlic and good, but the only thing you can say now is that it's a cool little neighborhood bar, but the burger is all nostalgia, not actually good eats.
The sad truth is that people here have never tasted better than In-N-Out. There is no equivalent of Shake Shack or Pat LaFrieda in the State. One day someone will come in and use fresh beef that's not just ground mega-mart chuck and cook it medium rare. Until then, we are consigned to the best of a mediocre lot. I'll continue to work my way through all the "best" burger places in the State and hope there is one that doesn't disappoint. At least the 30% brisket, 40% chuck and 30% bottom round cooked at my hour medium rare makes a really good burger to use as a baseline of what's good.
Fantastic Wood-fired Pizza at Pizzeria 712, Orem, Utah
It's about 5 blocks from the house. I've always known they were as good as the big boys. It's great to see them get their do. You've had quick looks at a couple other places in SLC, but nobody does a better and more consistent job than P712.
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: La Belle Farms Foie Gras
The French version of the 3 course Chinese Peking Duck. A foie gras terrine, soup from the stock, and duck confit and seared breasts for the main course.
Daily Slice: Settebello, Salt Lake City
It's a very good pizza. Certainly it's the best in Salt Lake City. They are somewhat inconsistent, but when they are on, it's very good. Unfortunately for people in SLC, but lucky for me, Pizzeria 712 in Orem, is better and always consistent. I'm not associated with either place.
Salt Lake City: The Copper Onion
I'm sorry to be slow responding. I wasn't watching close enough. @Cedarglen: It's really a nice upscale casual restaurant and worth going to. The bun was darker than the bad picture. The prices aren't out of line for the restaurant. It's really unfortunate that we don't have any really good true casual dining places with burgers that match. However, I'll be trying a few of the places I've not been to in the SLC magazine article. I'm also friends with the author of that article, so I'll contact her for recommendations.
Culinary Ambassadors: Breakfast in the Philippines
I stayed at the home of an affluent attorney when I was there, so the breakfast was more traditionally Western, but the mangoes were to die for. I just can't eat the ones here anymore.
USA Today's '51 Great Burger Joints'
Hi-Mountain Drug in Utah makes a good burger, but the exotic shakes are even better. Considering the said shape of burgers in Utah, this is a place worth mentioning.
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brownbag answered "No way, and I don't know anyone else who does that." to Do You Eat Burgers Around the Periphery Towards the Center?
Poll posted by Robyn Lee, January 6, 2011 at 9:00 AM
brownbag answered "Yes! I love ice cream no matter the season. " to Do You Eat Ice Cream In The Cold?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, December 7, 2010 at 11:15 AM
brownbag answered "Fresh Nutmeg " to What Kind of Nutmeg Do You Use?
Poll posted by Erin Zimmer, December 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM
brownbag answered "Other (write in below!)" to What type of turkey are you cooking for Thanksgiving?
Poll posted by J. Kenji López-Alt, November 23, 2010 at 3:00 PM
brownbag answered "Location is no objection. I'll go anywhere." to How Far Would You Travel For Good Food?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, November 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM
brownbag answered "They're a good road map to fine dining, but don't get everything right. " to What Do You Think of the Michelin Stars?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, October 26, 2010 at 11:30 AM
brownbag answered "Alton Brown" to Which Celebrity Chef Would You Most Like To Meet?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, October 5, 2010 at 11:30 AM
brownbag answered "Drip brew" to How Do You Brew Your Coffee?
Poll posted by Robyn Lee, September 29, 2010 at 8:00 AM
brownbag answered "Nay." to Breakfast Cereal Marshmallows: Yea or Nay?
Poll posted by Erin Zimmer, September 9, 2010 at 8:00 AM
brownbag answered "No" to Do you work — or have you ever worked — in a pizzeria or the pizza industry?
Poll posted by Adam Kuban, September 6, 2010 at 10:30 AM
brownbag answered "Something more complicated (explain below)" to Are You Eating Fewer Eggs
Poll posted by Erin Zimmer, August 25, 2010 at 7:00 AM
brownbag answered "YES. Can't get a weekend day started without it." to Do You Drink at Brunch?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, August 24, 2010 at 11:00 AM
brownbag answered "A month" to What's the longest you've gone without eating pizza?
Poll posted by Adam Kuban, August 16, 2010 at 9:45 AM
brownbag answered "Call over the manager. " to How Would You Deal With Restaurant Error?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, August 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM
brownbag answered "80/20" to What Lean-To-Fat Ratio Do You Prefer When Making Burgers?
Poll posted by Robyn Lee, July 29, 2010 at 8:30 AM
brownbag answered "I'll eat one if it's in front of me, but wouldn't ever seek one out." to Do You Care About Cupcakes?
Poll posted by The Serious Eats Team, July 27, 2010 at 11:30 AM
brownbag answered "Vanilla" to Soft-Serve Poll: Vanilla, Chocolate, Swirl?
Poll posted by Erin Zimmer, July 14, 2010 at 9:00 AM
brownbag answered "Hash browns!" to Hash browns or home fries?
Poll posted by Adam Kuban, July 6, 2010 at 7:00 AM
brownbag answered "No" to Patty Melt: Is it a Burger?
Poll posted by Robyn Lee, July 1, 2010 at 9:45 AM
brownbag answered "Never, I'm germophobic." to Do you share drinking straws?
Poll posted by Lingbo Li, June 23, 2010 at 8:00 AM
brownbag answered "Yes" to Do you toast your Pop-Tarts?
Poll posted by Lingbo Li, June 16, 2010 at 9:00 AM
brownbag answered "During childhood" to When did you start loving pizza?
Poll posted by Adam Kuban, June 14, 2010 at 8:45 AM
brownbag answered "Always." to Do you ask before eating off a friend's plate?
Poll posted by Lingbo Li, June 9, 2010 at 9:00 AM
brownbag answered "In the regular oven (on a pizza stone)" to How Do You Reheat Your Pizza?
Poll posted by Adam Kuban, June 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM
brownbag answered "Diet" to Do You Prefer Regular or Diet Soda?
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Quiz posted by Joan Fang, June 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM
brownbag got 70% correct on How Much Do You Know About Spring Vegetables?
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brownbag got 62% correct on How Much Do You Know About Breakfast Foods?
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brownbag got 42% correct on How Much Do You Know About Indianapolis Food Culture?
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About brownbag
Location: Orem, UT
About: I've eaten at 10,000 bad restaurants to find the 500 good ones. I spent 20 years doing extensive business travel and lots of personal dining. I like my cooking more than most restaurants, so this site covers both loves.
Favorite foods: I like nearly all food, but I have a special place for classically inspired regional cuisine.
Last bite on earth: Seared foie gras with a balsamic riesling reduction on toasted baguette.

There are not going to be drippings. You want it at the lowest temp you can keep it at. I did mine at my parents place and found the temp the oven said it was at -- it's a fancy convection with digital programming -- was off 15 degrees. I used my probe to track the temp. Drop to 140 if possible and don't let it go over about 122. After it hits that temp, use your probe to track the temp in the oven and hold it at about 110-115 degrees as long as necessary.