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More Richman—This Time He Takes on Grimaldi's, Patsy's, and Di Fara
And I know pizzas (pizza's) shouldn't have and apostrophe but when I read about Patsy's and Lombardi's getting denigrated it makes me forget how to punctuate!
More Richman—This Time He Takes on Grimaldi's, Patsy's, and Di Fara
I'm glad you posted a picture of Richman so pizzeria owners can blow it up and post it at their doors and not let this guy in. This guy is basically trying to ruin all that is good about pizza in the US. His 25 list was half ludicrous and his focus on crust shows he's not a pizza guy. He should go review bread. We all know a great crust is a great plus (see Bianco) but it shouldn't be your focus when picking pizza's. His pick of Tomato Pie (which is very good btw) in his top 25 showed me he really is not a pizza guy.
ZOMG! Barone's in Los Angeles
I didn't include Mozza because it is unfair. It's a different type of pizza, and yes it is fantastic. Sit at the bar if you can. BTW - I knew someone would bring up Mozza. And yes there is a lot of crappy pizza in L.A. as their is in New York...BUT...the best 5/10 places in NYC I've tasted would be better than anything in L.A. But the best L.A. pizza would no doubt be very successful in NYC. Again, I wasn't bashing the LA Pizza blog it's just to dismiss Albano's/Robano's is just not right.
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Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
I've heard plain slice when I'm in NYC, I'm from L.A. and we always would say "slice of cheese" when I was growing up. In fact I'd never heard the term regular or plain slice until I went to NY.
More Richman—This Time He Takes on Grimaldi's, Patsy's, and Di Fara
And I know pizzas (pizza's) shouldn't have and apostrophe but when I read about Patsy's and Lombardi's getting denigrated it makes me forget how to punctuate!
More Richman—This Time He Takes on Grimaldi's, Patsy's, and Di Fara
I'm glad you posted a picture of Richman so pizzeria owners can blow it up and post it at their doors and not let this guy in. This guy is basically trying to ruin all that is good about pizza in the US. His 25 list was half ludicrous and his focus on crust shows he's not a pizza guy. He should go review bread. We all know a great crust is a great plus (see Bianco) but it shouldn't be your focus when picking pizza's. His pick of Tomato Pie (which is very good btw) in his top 25 showed me he really is not a pizza guy.
ZOMG! Barone's in Los Angeles
I didn't include Mozza because it is unfair. It's a different type of pizza, and yes it is fantastic. Sit at the bar if you can. BTW - I knew someone would bring up Mozza. And yes there is a lot of crappy pizza in L.A. as their is in New York...BUT...the best 5/10 places in NYC I've tasted would be better than anything in L.A. But the best L.A. pizza would no doubt be very successful in NYC. Again, I wasn't bashing the LA Pizza blog it's just to dismiss Albano's/Robano's is just not right.
ZOMG! Barone's in Los Angeles
It's funny, I was just eating at Barone's the day this post came out. I do a regular comedy writing meeting. It's a great unique pizza. My problem with this post is that while LA Pizza blog is an amazing resource on LA Pizza (many kudos) I can't get in line with his standards, for him to be so dismissive of Robano's/Albano's which is the best pizza in L.A. makes me question his other calls.
F-Words of Wisdom from Pizzaiolo Chris Bianco
One of the greatest moments in my pizza tours was meeting Chris Bianco and eating his pizza. His crust is almost an El Bulli magic trick, it dissolves upon eating. The closest to this crust was at Andiamo in LA but so different as not to compare. When I approached Chris at his stove we had a three minute pizza conversation that was the best in my life. He knew ever pizza joint in New York and smiled at the recall of each one he liked. I ran into him the next day at Pane Bianco and he seemed like an old friend. Oh, and his pizza may be the best in the US.
AOL Cityguide: 13 Perfect Pizzas Across America
The originator of Chicago style pizza himself said that he wanted his "pizza" to be substantial because he considered traditional pizza to be a "snack." So it's not the same as New York pizza. Sure you can lump the two together on a list but you're really ranking two different things. As far as the list, I've eaten at Grimaldi's in Tucson and NY and John's. There are better pizza's than these (Lombardi's is the best imo) but they are sublimely good pizza even though Grimaldi's is not exactly my taste.
What's the Longest Wait You've Had at Di Fara?
My only wait was like 15 minutes. ACCIDENTALLY. As Dom was cutting a pie I told him "Dom I came all the way from California to eat your pizza." (I had made a tour of pizza places on my vacation) Dom said thank you and handed me the first two slices he cut. His daughter objected. But Dom waved her off. I told everyone in line what happened, offered up my slices, but no one wanted them. His daughter said..."Well if he wanted to give 'em to you what can I do."
The great part, seeing this pizza artisan cut fresh basil was one of the transcendent food moments of my life!
F-Words of Wisdom from Pizzaiolo Chris Bianco
Gourmet.com received written approval from CB to run this piece? I DOUBT IT. I know Chris personally & I feel this is mildly funny but it's not Chris Bianco... some of this slander may have been him in a rushed moment, baring witness to men with a ruler measuring a few of the hundreds of pizzas he makes himself each night. When you read other articles featuring Chris for the chef he truly is, you find his wisdom has nothing to do with an F-bomb. Out of respect for Chris Bianco, I say remove this F-bomb piece unless he wants it posted...
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
This is a totally academic topic for me, because I generally order a pie, and can't remember the last time I had pizza without at least one non-cheese topping. Maybe that disqualifies my opinion, as a lover of garbage pizza...
I like HeartofGlass's arguments against "cheese slice" and "plain slice", but I've also got a (totally geeky) problem with just "slice". It's just ambiguous from an information theory perspective. For example, if you say "and one slice of pepperoni" over the phone (as part of a larger order, say), it could sound like "and one slice ", if you lost signal for a moment.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
"May I have a portion of your finest margharita pizza my fine fellow?"
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
"Plain" or "regular" or just "slice" as ways to denote "no toppings" are all fine with me. What bothers me is hearing "a slice of cheese." It seems to me that that implies that cheese counts as a topping, and that there are pizzas without cheese. Granted, I've seen a few things called pizza without cheese, but that's not what we're talking about here; cheese and sauce are integral parts of the pizza, not toppings. "A slice of pepperoni" make sense, as pepperoni is a topping, but "a slice of cheese" does not.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
Plain slice all the way...at least in the NYC area. In New England, they have tomato pie - and a plain slice is called a cheese slice. According to the other comments (and with brother, who is sitting next to me and goes to school in Texas) plain slice transcribing to cheese slice seems fairly common in other parts of the country. Maybe due to the prevalence of fast food pizza chains, um, everywhere?
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
Geez, I don't know what I would say since I always get a whole pie at the local pizza joint. The owner might make fun of me when I left his place, but I know that he wants my business and really wouldn't care as long as I put my money on the counter.
@hungry-traveller you might ask for a tomato pie. It's just a thick crust with the tomato sauce and can be really quite tasty.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
@wrain: There is no "overthinking it" when it comes to pizza here on Slice.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
@HeartofGlass: If you were to say "piece of pizza" in NYC, I think the person behind the counter would say something to the effect of, "No kidding. What kinda slice you want?"
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
I think I either say just "plain" or just "slice." As in, "Can I get 2 plain" or "Can I get a slice" or something along those lines. I grew up in NY but no longer live there so now I'm probably overthinking it.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
No 'piece of pizza' people?
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
@ tdeane How did you manage not to go for their square once in seven years? Did you not know of the place?
Ciao,
Paulie Gee
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
I had a pizza party recently and had one diner ask for no cheese due to her being lactose intolerant/vegan. So, I ordered an entire pie w/o cheese but with 'shrooms and peppers. I've come to realize she and others with her dietary requirements don't have the luxury of a slice, plain nor otherwise unless specifically ordered. Are there pizza parlors that offer slices w/o cheese in the city?
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
I call it "a slice". If asked for clarification I say "regular". I'm from the NY side of NJ.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
Huh. I've lived in the Bay Area all my life, and here I'd say "lemme get a cheese slice". If you'd asked me what a "regular" slice was 15 minutes ago, I probably would've guessed pepperoni- I don't think straight cheese is a big seller here. I can't think of the last time I had a pizza with less than two toppings.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
@pauliegee I've never been to Spumoni Gardens.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
In slice joints I have always seen just "slice" as in "gimme a slice" or "cheese slice" when it's one of those places with about ten different types of pies available by the slice - in which case I'll ask for "just a cheese slice."
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
Just walk into Joe's and say 'gimme two'. Otherwise, its just 'slice'.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
@tdeane When you asked for a slice at Spumoni Gardens, what did the guy at the window say to you?
Ciao,
Paulie Gee
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
In NY, "regular" refers to coffee not pizza.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
"Slice" and "regular" both sound like regional New Yorkisms to me. Out here in the provinces, I would say "cheese" and then, if I were in California, my heart would break a little because it wasn't some sort of abomination with mangoes and chocolate.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
as far as I am concerned on my site, a Cheese slice is moronic. You either get a regular or sicilian
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
Someone came into my pizzeria and asked me if it was correct to order "a regular" to get a slice. Like, "Give me a regular". I told him no, not unless you want a coffee with milk and two sugars.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
I'm from upstate NY, and years ago, plain slice sometimes meant slice with sauce but no cheese. Today, plain = cheese slice.
Is It a 'Plain' Slice, a 'Regular' Slice, or Something Else Entirely?
With me it's "I'll have a slice" or "I'll have a square". Unless I'm at Spumoni Gardens where the vast majority of customers get the Sicilian. On the rare occasion I'm not getting a Sicilian there, I ask for a regular slice. And I never ask for a square or Sicilian there. I ask for a "side" (as opposed to a corner or a middle).
@Slicemeister Did you spot any of these during your trip:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliegee/sets/72157600168042974/
Have you seen this (great site)?:
Ciao,
Paulie Gee
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I've heard plain slice when I'm in NYC, I'm from L.A. and we always would say "slice of cheese" when I was growing up. In fact I'd never heard the term regular or plain slice until I went to NY.