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Ed,
You MUST step up with some serious damage control. A hedgey apology won't cut it (nor will closing the comments on your apology post). Make it clear that folks will get their money back and lay out exactly how they can go about it. Yep, you'll have to eat the cost of the event. But it will stave off the (more expensive) law suits.
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i assume you told him at some point you were writing a review (how else would Adam & SliceNY come up)? isn't that a major no no? or does serious eats have different standards for reviewing places. it just completely, inevitably alters how you are treated (free bread), how careful they are with your order, etc. i'm not saying this place secretly sucks -- it seems amazing. but i am curious about the SE policy on disclosing you're a reviewer.
Cook the Book: 14 Ways with Deviled Eggs
olive oil instead of mayo + lots of fresh chives. maybe a little cayenne for kick.
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funny you have that headline but then didn't really seem to like the food much at all ('cept the spendy chops). just why SHOULD we go?
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
Ed,
You MUST step up with some serious damage control. A hedgey apology won't cut it (nor will closing the comments on your apology post). Make it clear that folks will get their money back and lay out exactly how they can go about it. Yep, you'll have to eat the cost of the event. But it will stave off the (more expensive) law suits.
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
i assume you told him at some point you were writing a review (how else would Adam & SliceNY come up)? isn't that a major no no? or does serious eats have different standards for reviewing places. it just completely, inevitably alters how you are treated (free bread), how careful they are with your order, etc. i'm not saying this place secretly sucks -- it seems amazing. but i am curious about the SE policy on disclosing you're a reviewer.
Cook the Book: 14 Ways with Deviled Eggs
olive oil instead of mayo + lots of fresh chives. maybe a little cayenne for kick.
John Legend's 'Nutmeg' Song on Stephen Colbert's Christmas Special
you are so wrong -- it was freaken hi-larious.
Ed Levine's Serious Diet, Week 38: Embracing My Inner Bok Choy
you're doing fabulous! about a year ago, i also had an "appetite transplant" -- mostly gave up bread & started eating way more veg. i lost 30 pounds, easily, and now i don't even crave the stuff i used to. now i love me the veg.!!!
awesome, fast broccoli recipe -- cut a bunch into bite-size pieces. heat a little oil in a big nonstick skillet & cook the broccoli (stirring) on high until tender (it will get some nice charred-looking spots). turn off the heat & sprinkle liberally with thai fish sauce & lime juice. very flavorful, very easy.
p.s. my husband's a food inhaler, too. sometimes I look up from my 1st bite to see -- what the f*ck?! -- he's done eating.
Cook the Book: 'Olives and Oranges'
pickled turnips.
Weekend Book Giveaway: 'The Saucier's Apprentice'
Not long after I started dating my (now) husband, his mother invited us for Rosh Hashanah dinner. In addition to celebrating the holiday, it would be a chance for all her friends to meet the shiksa her son had fallen for. Future mother-in-law asked me to bring an appetizer and I decided to show my stuff with a rather fancy chicken liver pate. At the dinner, everything was going swimmingly and all the guests were cooing over my meat spread. "How did you make it?" one asked. "Oh," I said to all the listening guests, "the secret to making it SO good... I soak the livers overnight in MILK!" Stunned silence. Pitying looks in the direction of my future MIL. What an idiot -- many Jews don't even let milk and meat in the same kitchen, forget about an all-night love romp in a tupperware. I knew that.
Luckily, no one there was strictly kosher. And eventually they all grew to like and embrace me. But that night there were doubts. Big-ass doubts.
Meeting Mario
"I decide to get tough..." -- after you've done more interviews, you'll learn that the question you asked next is the softess of softballs. It's a set-up meant to allow the interviewee to say, "on the contrary blah blah blah." if you want to do a puffy, fawning interview, best not to try and pretend it's anything different.
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I just wanted to note that the dinner menu has two $10 supplement dishes, one being that lamb and the other a Lobster Salad. The Filet Mignon Sandwich on the lunch menu turns into an actual Filet Mignon dish ((two slices!)) with watermelon sauce and corn on the cob at dinner. Everything else looks about the same.
I had a lovely experience there. I booked my reservation beforehand but was even more pumped up after seeing the review here. Happy eating, everyone! :)
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
I knew from the moment I read this article that it was only a matter of time before I visited Great Lake. Then along came the GQ article which was icing on the cake.
So this past week my family and I drove to Chicago from NYS to sample what all the fave is about.
What can I say other then it was worth the journey and them some.
Chris Bianco sets the pizza bar in my opinion and Great Lake not only matched that bar but likely surpassed it. Outstanding!
Also anyone wishing to see some photos I took see the above Face Book group. Also will be writing a more detailed report very soon but this old man needs to recover from travel fatigue.
Thank you so much Daniel for the heads up on Great Lake and the amazingly talented couple who run it.
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
Some mouth watering photos on this face book Great Lake fan group.
I really need to visit soon!
http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=110472678781
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
We appreciate all your feedback on the fest. We're taking to heart the lessons we've learned and we will certainly apply them to any events we get involved with in the future. If you'd like to request a refund, please contact jimlewi@theagencygroup.com. These requests will be addressed on a case by case basis. We are closing comments on this post. If you have additional feedback that you'd like to share with us, e-mail foodfest@seriouseats.com.
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I ran a race last year that was botched up beyond belief. The course was poorly marked, the volunteers weren't there in time, and people all ran different courses, making it such that times and places meant nothing. Runners were understandably upset...there were people who had put months and months of training into this event. The race director expressed his apologies, and offered to let anyone who participated in last year's event into this year's event at the price of their choosing (they could pay anything from nothing to the standard price, based on what they felt the race was worth). The race will likely lose money next year, but it's setting itself up for future years, and it's better than having no one show up and folding altogether. Ed, maybe you could consider something like that? I wasn't at the Fest, so I have no idea how poorly it went, but based on what I'm reading, it sounds like unless you do something, no one's going to return next year. If this is truly your dream, a little incentive for people who got burned this year might get them to come back next year. It sounds like a bear to organize, and I think people are being a little harsh, but then again, as I said, I wasn't there. I wish you the best of luck with future Food and Music Fests, and hope that you take the lessons you learned this year and use them to make next year a success.
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@hymie - you are an asshole. You can get your money refunded. That's not enough for you?
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
If we all work together, people we can get our refunds and maybe even network to the point of doing a class-action suit against the promoters of this event. I am in the process of looking for a law firm that will take the case. Stay tuned. Don't let them win!
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PS. to my earlier comment. A live Bobby and Paula demo-pairing would erase many hard-feelings!
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
I was there all day, from 8am - 11pm, working on the music half of the festival. And for our part, I think it was a good day. The sound and tech crews were professional and friendly, and I think the music performances were almost flawless. Ok, one glitch with a band who didn't all fit on the small stage. But for such a large event, people truly did a fantastic job from the planning stages to the end.
I do hope Serious Eats and all involved give the food half some further consideration and try again. I did have one of the bagels mid-afternoon. It was a tasty snack.
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
I've already posted our disappointment with the entire event (blah, blah, blah).... not going to rehash that. Instead I will put new comments out in a positive light.
1) We called LiveNation Sunday evening, actually got a live person! The person with whom my husband spoke was very good at Customer Service, with just a few questions and answers, voila our credit card will be credited for the purchase of our tickets. We received confirmation today that the credit is confirmed.
2) YES, our experience was not as expected. We missed seeing the demos from the Food Network people that we watch on our television for more hours than we care to admit to :)
3) Both my husband and I agree, that if the new-and-improved GAF&MF comes to the Bay Area again, we will purchase tickets.
4)Ed, you must know by now that you've been challenged to an unofficial "Throw Down" by all of the people who have posted their unhappy experience. We are hopeful that this was a learning experience for the many factions involved in putting it all together. We certainly would like the opportunity to see Bobby, Guy, Anne & Aida (and/or others) under better circumstances
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This event had a lot of potential... too bad it didn't turn out the way it should have.
I don't feel that I need a refund for my tickets- I went, I had a good time w/ my friends, I was able to eat. HOWEVER, I checked my credit card account last night and found that these guys charged me TWO apparently flat fees of $75. I had linked my credit card to two different wrist bands, but we didn't spend anywhere NEAR $75. How could we, when the whole damn system wasn't working? We paid cash for most of our items.
Anyone else have this problem? Any idea on who I should contact regarding being over-charged by the vendors/wristband people/Great American Food and Music Fest? The website itself does not have a contact # or anything.
I'm pretty easygoing and I am prepared to let a lot of thing slide. But come on, people. This is getting beyond ridiculous.
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My husband called the event "Line Nation". Enough said.
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
Without question a complete disaster. I am so glad my party figured it out and left after standing in line to get in and then trying to get some food. We only wasted 3 hours. The final insult was being told to stand in line for a refund. No way - we left.
I just got off the phone with Tim Anderson, the manager at Live nation. Nedless to say he is not having a good day. For a refund make a copy of your ticket, mail the original to:
Tim Anderson
Live Nation
1 Ampitheater Parkway
Mt. View, CA 94043
650 967-3000
Good luck!
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If you don't get a refund, they win. Here's the refund info. : Live Nation (888-598-4299) or 650 - 967 - 3000 Online use :
http://www.livenation.com/help
Press tab ask a question
Product- Event feedback- write a short full refund letter. If you paid credit card, the process will be faster. If you paid cash, make copies and keep originals. It will take longer to process. For the parking fee, you have to contact the Shoreline to get it. Mail a copy of your parking stub and/or your tickets. No guarantee on parking fee, but many others got their refund for it that day. Here's my factual story:
Why is dishonesty, incompetence, and immorality an integral way your company does business? Many people today had to spend hours in line to get their first meal the whole day. The fact of the matter is that I personally spent 5 hours in a totally disorganized line for a patrami or buffalo wings. Why did your company and vendors condone this? Why weren't customers offered refunds for their ticket admission?Why weren't the customers in line given timely valid updates, refunds and water? Customers were given nothing but a pin from the restaurant. Others heard we could get a refund for admission if they do it before 4pm. I was in my first line until 5pm. and no announcement was made by any staff or security. No security or staff organized lines to food vendors until 6pm. The events for the day close at 10pm. I never witnessed any security-in yellow shirts organize lines until 6pm. How do you explain that fact? How can you defend the great incompetence displayed by the planning and execution of all the staff involved? The event didn't open its doors until 1230pm and it was advertised that people could enter 1.5 hrs. before 12pm. Then, the computers to charge money on wrist bands was down. The I.T. guys didn't bother to test the software, which was quoted by a staff member in a food line. She had a badge on-staff printed on it. People who paid $300 for their wrist band were supposed to be able to walk through the front entrance. They didn't because the staff didn't tell anyone in line about the policy and there were no signs to explain the policy and format. How can you explain this fact? The company oversold the event(even selling tickets that day), they projected 5K people and got 10K+, they made the excuse everybody showed up at the same time-total lie and total nonsense, gave no water or a scrap of food to anyone- especially a 2 year old boy, the elderly, or those who baked in the unshaded sun for 5 hours straight.
My friends and I demand a full refund for the completely unacceptable level of incompetence and poor business practices that we endured this day.
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Thanks to those of you who posted Live Nation's customer serivce line. I called as well and the transaction went smoothly.
Call me crazy, but if they do this again I will possibly attend. I 'm sure what we experienced Saturday was close to the worst it could have been. They have some time to attempt to redeem themselves.
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I just had to add something. After waiting hours and hours to get to the Katz counter, the kid running the counter has the nerve to put out a tip cup. Are you kidding me? I just had to laugh at that point.
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
Thanks for posting the LiveNation customer service number (1.888.598.4299).
Phoned now (9:45am PST), held for about 5 minutes and spoke with Mike.
I can confirm that they are giving refunds, no questions asked. Mike didn't even ask why, he just took my order number (for 8 tickets, around $200) and said they'd have a full refund within a few days.
Mike apologized on their behalf, though he wasn't aware of what happened as these guys are located in Virginia, having heard only that it wasn't fun so please don't go in guns blazing - these customer service guys had nothing to do with it.
The Great American Food & Music Fest Is Today!
I thought this would be a great event - obviously it wasn't and I'm glad I didn't travel or spend any money on it.
I tried to go to our city's chili festival this year, and not even halfway through the event, all vendors ran out of food and they cut ticket prices in half...basically, they still wanted you to pay half for absolutely nothing. We politely declined at the gate. Unfortunately the city refused to give parking refunds, so we walked a few blocks and ate at a great restaurant.
What is it with events these days?
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After 4 p.m. people using cash seemed to have a great time buying food at lines that were most often 15 minutes or less, and never more than half an hour.
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This is a LIE. We left at 5 with no end in sight. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL.
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I was in envy of folks who had the opportunity to attend this event and am appalled at how it failed. I feel so badly for anyone who spent money/looked forward and worked hard to try and make this happen.
But I must say I agree with foodpr - I didn't even attend this thing and I think the response from SE has not been up to snuff. Clear instructions for getting refunds are obviously in order and have not been provided. Ed, your apology wasn't strong enough and you need to update it - NOW. I know your heart was in the right place, but your execution wasn't and you need to suck it up - particularly if you want to try and rework this and do it again. How you handle this failure will determine if you have a success scenario in the future. Best of luck.
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
@PIGMON: A few responses. 1) Your metaphor confuses appreciation and understanding. 2) Not eating much bread in my house, where it would exclusively be used for sandwiches, has nothing to do with enjoying and even loving a good pizza crust. 3) I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that pizza is all about bread. Cheese, toppings and sauce are generally all critical components of a great pie. There are white pizzas that are great, and I can appreciate those who view Margherita as the epitome of pizza, but even in those cases, there is a whole lot more than simply bread needed to make the pie great.
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
"I have such little appreciation for bread that, more often than not, I don’t even have any in my house."
In the pizza world I know and love, this is like Einstein admitting that he never really understood calculus.
It's basically all about bread, Daniel.
Great Lake: Stunningly Good Pizza in Chicago
@Daniel Looks like I better start paying more attention to your Chi-town articles. Not only would I have known what a great place it is, but I would have known it was too small for AR's party. Unfortunately I have not plans to be in the area. However, I had no plans to be in Phoenix and I'm now heading there next Thursday so you never know. I wanna meet this guy and try his pies. BTW, I did a search on "Pulled Port" I got nuthin'.
Ciao,
Paulie Gee
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In June issue of GQ magazine Alan Richman picked Great Lake #1 pizza in the country.
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funny you have that headline but then didn't really seem to like the food much at all ('cept the spendy chops). just why SHOULD we go?