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Also check out this link for a great article that tests and reviews quite a few knives and has some great insights.
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Fair food no doubt, first thought goes to fresh cut fries with malt vinegar, kosher salt & plenty of ketchup.
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I would highly recommend Victorinox knives. They are made by the same company that makes Swiss Army knives. Incredibly sharp, sturdy (full tang), and well-balanced. Also the handles are made of a composite called Fibrox which is both comfortable and durable.
I have the 3-piece set but I would recommend the 8-inch chef's knife for an all-around kitchen knife.
They don't have a big name or price tag but their quality matches that of knives 3-5 times more expensive.
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Basil Vinaigrette...
dbcurrie: Very interesting, I would have never thought of tofu when I noticed the soy note, make sense.
Embackus: That dressing looks delicious, I'll have to try it.
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Also check out this link for a great article that tests and reviews quite a few knives and has some great insights.
Bowling Alley Food vs County Fair Midway Food
Fair food no doubt, first thought goes to fresh cut fries with malt vinegar, kosher salt & plenty of ketchup.
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I would highly recommend Victorinox knives. They are made by the same company that makes Swiss Army knives. Incredibly sharp, sturdy (full tang), and well-balanced. Also the handles are made of a composite called Fibrox which is both comfortable and durable.
I have the 3-piece set but I would recommend the 8-inch chef's knife for an all-around kitchen knife.
They don't have a big name or price tag but their quality matches that of knives 3-5 times more expensive.
Rescue my bolognese!
@SqueezeBottle: this is a great point and something I should have considered.
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I've actually made the classic before, I'm partial to Lynne Kasper's style. I thought this might be something interesting and tasty but not quite in this way...
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I think the sweetness/off-taste issue stems from the additions of ketchup, worcestershire, fish sauce, and sherry vinegar.
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Honestly the anise isn't really the issue.
The sauce just leaves a really sweet after taste in my mouth where I would expect a meaty-earthy flavor instead.
This may or may not be due to his recipe or the deviations I took. I think if I had actually made a compote (especially the last step where it's fried) it may have come out less sweet.
I was hoping for some tips to tone down the sweetness and accent the meaty-earthy flavors. Now I'm thinking some fresh parsley, oregano, and rosemary with a couple splashes of milk may help.
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Well at the very least I have a whole bunch of flopped bolognese & a lesson learned.
Next time I'm going to go with a M. Hazan, Giuliano Bugialli, or Lynne Rossetto Kasper recipe.
Seriously though, any thoughts on some additions I can make to the current batch to turn the flavor around?
I was thinking of tweaking it with some more tomato, cream, parsley...
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Hmm, good points from both of you but I was hoping to find a way to "tweak" the current batch (I have at least 2-2.5 lbs of it now).
Next time I'm going with the "official" Bologna recipe.
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These are great, thanks for the wonderful advice guys & gals, keep 'em comin!
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I am a Shun fan for life - I have 8. I would agree with going in to a store and holding them yourself. Sur La Table is having a sharpening event and is putting a big focus on knives in general. Mine are all Elite or Bob Kramer, but some people prefer the Ken Onion because of the handle. My other 3 knives are Wusthof - a santoku, paring, and butcher. Their scissors are great as well - cut anything! I would also take a look at the Henckels Miyabi line - brand new (I think).
Not trying to knock less expensive knives, but even with good care mine have not held up, suffering rust and bending problems at the tip. Even my Henckels set from Target got shelved.
Enjoy!
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I am in no way associated with the "Knife Merchant," but google them and talk to the owner....his name is Borg, I think. A first-class operation.
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I prefer a 5 1/2" Santoku (I have little hands) over the classic 7" Chef Knife.
This statement alone proves what I'm about to say... Buying "the right knife" is a very personal choice. What fits your hand and your needs might not fit another's. I have a friend who, like you, has little bitty hands. I found a 5" chef's knife for her because an 8" or my 10" chef would seem like a machete in her hands.
Santoku is a very good blade style for someone with small hands as it seems to concentrate force on the entire blade vs. the heel or the tip. This is a double edged sword so to speak because there are times when one might need to distribute force. You'd need a parer for close "knife tip" work but should still be able to press down pretty hard on a santoku at the "heel" end. You should NOT try to "cleave" a bone as you would be able to with a chef's knife. Santokus are not built for this purpose and you might damage it. (i.e. I usually cleave through chicken bones when I am making stock to expose the marrow which is gelatinous and gives body to the stock. You'd want to use a heavier-duty knife for this vs. a santoku.)
Messermeister is an excellent German brand and I love how their knives feel in my hand. The forged line is amazing - balanced with just the right amount of "heft." This 5" Rocking Knife might be a good option for you. There is also this 4" Petite Chef's Knife that might suit your needs - and your hand. It would allow you to perform the rougher tasks better done by a chef's knife but it would be small enough for you to have maximum control when using it.
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I love my Chroma. If you look at it it seems like it would be ridiculously uncomfortable, but it feels so good in my hand.
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You can try some ceramic knife.I always use my Fuboon ceramic knife.I enjoy it to cut.
Basil Vinaigrette...
I mix a home-made pesto with yogurt and egg-less mayonaise to make a creamy basil dressing. Maybe that will give you the desired creamy consistency...
Basil Vinaigrette...
Not be exactly what you are looking for, but this is a great and versatile basil vinaigrette from the Black Dog Restaurant on Martha's Vineyard.
Fresh Basil Vinaigrette
2 Cloves Garlic
½ tsp. Salt
½ - ¾ c. Fresh Basil Leaves, Loosely Packed
¼ c. Olive Oil
¼ c. Canola Oil
1/8 c. Red Wine Vinegar
2 tsp. Dijon Mustard
¼ tsp. Pepper
Put salt and garlic in food processor or blender and pulse to chop. Add remaining ingredients (expect oils) and pulse to mix. Finally, add oil slowly to vinaigrette to emulsify. I usually double.
Great on green salad, drizzled over a caprese salad, or as a marinade.
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She's not asking to be mocked; she's just asking for ideas about how to save a failed recipe. Yeesh.
@phishie, it's a shame it's got all that meat in it already because it might be good as a braising liquid for another piece of meat. I grew up eating something we called Daube, which was chuck roast braised in a tomato gravy for hours. That might add some of the missing meaty flavor because I have to tell you that I would bathe in the gravy after that roast cooked in it, but I don't have any pots big enough.
Bowling Alley Food vs County Fair Midway Food
@phishie - Yum. I wanna go to your fair!
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you attempted to "recreate" HB's bolognese, yet didn't follow any of the methods and substituted as your wont. wonder why it didn't turn out...
Bowling Alley Food vs County Fair Midway Food
My first thought actually goes to the local bowling alley in town. They make the best smothered nachos and the french fries are always perfect. But there is nothing better than a corn dog at the fair.
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Star Anise
Vinegar
Fish Sauce
Motor Oil
What are "things that have no business in Bolognese Sauce?"
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@SqueezeBottle I will skip that rendition, it is not something I would serve.
I don't reinvent wheels unless there is good reason to and after reading the recipe over twice I stick with my first impression.
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i'd go with the guy with the vowel at the end of his name!
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To all the people poo-pooing Blumenthal's recipe, I suggest you try it first. I've taken tips from his recipe and added star anise and fish sauce to my ragu bolognese and the results have been surprisingly good. The amounts of ketchup, worcestershire and sherry vinegar he puts in the recipe are quite small so they don't affect the results that much. I wouldn't peg the bad results on that. I do think however that using anise was a bad idea. Anise and star anise are two quite different spices. Anise doesn't give that meatiness boost and might just have made the dish taste sweeter.
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ok I just saw this
"ketchup, worcestershire, fish sauce, and sherry vinegar." Shaking my head. This is BBQ sauce, might even be sloppy joes.
That is not bolognese. I am sorry just because Heston Blumenthal calls it bolognese doesn't make it so. It is not anything close to it. It is a sauce of some sort, and you can keep telling me its good but facts are facts.
I personally do not like sweets with my savory and I stick by my original call of bullshit.
@phishie bless your heart for trying to follow the recipe of a "imaginative" chef. How about you try it the conventional way before you start innovating.
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If the sauce is too, sweet, why in heaven's name would you add more tomato? Adding herbs won't help much, they will just make your sauce taste Mediterranean, Bolognese is not Mediterranean.
This is what you should do: dice about a half pound of pancetta and brown it gently in a little water in a big sock pot, to render out the fat. When the pancetta is golden brown and the fat has rendered out nicely and the water has evaporated, add about a pound of ground flank steak. Cook slowly, let the meat go gray, but do not allow it to brown too much. Add your sauce. Bring it up to a gentle simmer, adding about 1/4 cup of milk every 20 minutes or so until you get it back to the proper consistency. This will tone down the sweetness and bring up the meaty flavors, the milk with loosen it back up a little. You will end up with a lot more sauce but this is the only way for you to save what you have.
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@phishie - Maybe you could turn it into sloppy joe's? I just went in to look at Blumenthal's ingredients and they should definitely work. You could totally use it as a SJ starter (though how much does that suck really, all that work for a freakin' sandwich). In reading it, I don't quite get his thought process here, but, to each his own I guess. For me, Marcella Hazan's bolognese is my go to. I love it.
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Go with some herbs, heavy cream, mushrooms and maybe some beef stock or demi. That should ground out the flavors.
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Fish sauce in your bolognese?!
Here's a video of Batali making his bolognese... @derosa and @hungrychristel-- he makes it differently from the Epicurious recipe. I haven't tried either one. But, I will when I get home!
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i would say try browning some garlic and then adding a small can of crushed tomatoes and tomato paste along with lots of salt. once that mixture is thick, try adding it to the sauce. you also might just want to cook the sauce for an hour or so more to see if the flavors haven't quite all come together yet.
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If there is too much anise, could you go sort of the Indian/curry route and spice it up in that vein?
I hate it when a sauce ends up tasting weird. Good luck!
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have you tasted it with the star anise?
It actually brings out the meatiness of the various pork/lamb/beef used in the bolognese. Of all the things that he does to this version of bolognese, I think it actually adds something to the flavour of the dish. However, it does make it taste slightly sweet.
Don't get me wrong, I love a traditional sauce but I don't think Heston's version is bad, its just a bit time consuming.
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I am calling bullshit on Heston Blumenthal.Star anise now come on.
Thank you. I'm glad mine wasn't the only stomach that twisted at reading star anise. Whoever this guy is, he's got no place creating a sauce with stuff from outer space and calling it "bolognese." It makes me want to wretch when I see that.
Worse than vanilla lobster, I tell you.
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dbcurrie: Very interesting, I would have never thought of tofu when I noticed the soy note, make sense.
Embackus: That dressing looks delicious, I'll have to try it.