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Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
I just wanted to say that at least the facts should be stated completely. There is no "nitrite" in celery. There is , however, "nitrate". The nitrate must be converted to nitrite by means of bacteria. What this really means is all the "natural" nuts out there should know that when you eat a carrot or celery stalk or other vegetable from the ground, you are eating as much nitrate as you would be with any of these meats. I would worry more about the fat/salt content of the food. Natural also does not mean fat free which some people like to believe. In conclusion you are going to get nitrates/ nitrites from somewhere. Check out sea salt, for example.
Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
In all things... moderation.
Just look at a hot dog - doesn't take a PhD in anything to be able to tell they can't be healthy!
From http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/food/hotdogs.htm - "The study found that children eating more than 12 hot dogs per month have nine times the normal risk of developing childhood leukemia. A strong risk for childhood leukemia also existed for those children whose fathers' intake of hot dogs was 12 or more per month.... Recommendation: Do not buy hot dogs containing nitrite. It is especially important that children and potential parents do not consume 12 or more of these hot dogs per month."
Really!? 12x p/month!? R u serious!!?? I guess if one eats 2x hot dogs twice a week, that'd be 16, but really, hot dogs shouldn't be part of anyone's staple food. Buying em weekly, curb back to monthly :-)
Meat guy sounds like a scientist working for a meat company doesn't he? His comment read very reasonably until he wrote "Meat processors can't make money if they do not treat their animals humanely." What a load!
Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
I hate to beat this topic to death, but is anyone aware of a truly nitrate/nitrite free hot dog?
Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
All commercial hot dogs contain derivatives of Vitamin C, Ascorbic acid, sodium citrate, Sodium Erythorbate or Sodium Ascorbate, these are added to reduce the nitrites added in the hot dog to effectively cure the meat and reduce any residual Nitrites to minimum levels. Celery Juice requires a fermentation process to convert the nitrtrates to nitrite, something that may not be completely done.
Never grill a natural hot dog, the residual nitrates can combine with the polycyclic hydrocarbons generated in the grilling process causing Nitrosamines, a known carcinogen. THis is why nitrates were banned from sausage and Bacon in all USDA inspected plants since the 1970s.
Recently the celery juice marketers have increased the amounts of nitrates to unnatural levels through concentration of the juice, several are selling it fermented, to reduce the nitrates to nitrite, a more effective curing material than Nitrate. Celery juice is far less safe than the refined chemicals which are added at parts per million, rather than in a range from a loosely controlled liquid which is converted through an imprecise process. THat is why many times you will see different colors in a pack of Natural hot dogs, or why they change color when you reheat them, the cure is not fully established.
Face it, an all beef hot dog is safer than a natural or organic. Meat processors can't make money if they do not treat their animals humanely. Abused animals are low in weight, low in meat quality, and therefore unprofitable.
I have worked with processors of both types of hot dog, "natural" cure and normally cured, normal is safer, the chemicals added are pure and controlled, the process is safe, and it doesn't contain nitrates which were banned in normal cures over 30 years ago, but are legal and present in natural cured products.
Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO NITRATES! In actually the celery based nitrate is better as it is naturally occuring and has vitamins C & D which prevents the nitrate from becoming a carinogen--which can cause various childhood and other cancers. If you want to give your kids regular hotdogs then make sure they take a daily vitamin supplement with vitamins C & D. Research it on the net, if you don't believe me.
Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates
Interesting. I'm not a biochemist by any means, but have been doing a little research into nitrites - from a cancer-causing perspective, apparently there is a difference between nitrite additives and nitrites that occur naturally in vegetables. Vegetables with nitrites also contain high levels of vitamins A and C, which it is theorized work to block the formation of carcinogenic nitrosamines in the human gut, explaining why nitrite containing veggies help protect from cancer, while synthetic nitrite additives in cured meats are shown to cause cancer.
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I just wanted to say that at least the facts should be stated completely. There is no "nitrite" in celery. There is , however, "nitrate". The nitrate must be converted to nitrite by means of bacteria. What this really means is all the "natural" nuts out there should know that when you eat a carrot or celery stalk or other vegetable from the ground, you are eating as much nitrate as you would be with any of these meats. I would worry more about the fat/salt content of the food. Natural also does not mean fat free which some people like to believe. In conclusion you are going to get nitrates/ nitrites from somewhere. Check out sea salt, for example.