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An Inside Look at a Halal Slaughterhouse

I think that when people see things without being told the full story then it is easy for the mind to fill in the gaps.
I went to the largest Agriculture school in the US and because my major was meat cutting (yep! 30 years ago this was a major) I had to do internships at slaughter houses. So here is what you don’t know
When an animal is stunned and then the throat is slit there is more than enough time for the animal to know what is actually happening, lets face it a slaughter house smells of death. The animal was hit first and because of this the animal will release an adrenalin storm just prior to being run down the shoot. The trick is to stun and bleed the animal out quick enough so that the adrenalin does not totally change the meat. With Halal and Kosher kill it is less violent so you don’t get the adrenalin storm and that is why the meat will taste different.
Oh! And BTW pigs are not stupid, they know, from the time I have worked in slaughter houses I can say that they are more aware (they get depressed) and unlike any other animal they will scream. I would venture that maybe the reason for the probation against eating pigs for Jews and Muslims

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The Food Lab: Homemade Mayo In 2 Minutes Or Less (Video)

You are so cute
You do know that if you have a food processer the plunger (that thing that sits in the shoot) has a tiny hole in it so you just pour the oil in that and it will take all the fun out of trying to drizzle it in yourself

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Foods You'll Only Eat at a Restaurant

Peeps,

For the smelly stuff put active charcoal in a bag above the stove or where ever you cooking the smelly stuff.
Frankly I like the smell of fish cooking, but that is just me.
Pancakes, Really - but they are so easy to make.
The trick behind french fries it to cut, parboil, freeze - cook
Pancakes are just too easy but look for a recipe that it from the 20's or 30's
Mash potatoes - mustard, or mayo or the egg trick
Making puff pastry relaxes me
Pho - my big trick is my homemade demi-glaze

My big thing though is anything that has a hot liquid I can make doughnuts and sometimes will but still have that issue with the hot oil. Ditto with bagles it's the hot water - it's a safety thing with me

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Annoying Lunch Habits of Coworkers

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Ok that is just too creepy - I'd have to find another job

Fish should always be banned and I love the smell of fish no matter how it's cooked

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An Inside Look at a Halal Slaughterhouse

I think that when people see things without being told the full story then it is easy for the mind to fill in the gaps.
I went to the largest Agriculture school in the US and because my major was meat cutting (yep! 30 years ago this was a major) I had to do internships at slaughter houses. So here is what you don’t know
When an animal is stunned and then the throat is slit there is more than enough time for the animal to know what is actually happening, lets face it a slaughter house smells of death. The animal was hit first and because of this the animal will release an adrenalin storm just prior to being run down the shoot. The trick is to stun and bleed the animal out quick enough so that the adrenalin does not totally change the meat. With Halal and Kosher kill it is less violent so you don’t get the adrenalin storm and that is why the meat will taste different.
Oh! And BTW pigs are not stupid, they know, from the time I have worked in slaughter houses I can say that they are more aware (they get depressed) and unlike any other animal they will scream. I would venture that maybe the reason for the probation against eating pigs for Jews and Muslims

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The Food Lab: Homemade Mayo In 2 Minutes Or Less (Video)

You are so cute
You do know that if you have a food processer the plunger (that thing that sits in the shoot) has a tiny hole in it so you just pour the oil in that and it will take all the fun out of trying to drizzle it in yourself

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Foods You'll Only Eat at a Restaurant

Peeps,

For the smelly stuff put active charcoal in a bag above the stove or where ever you cooking the smelly stuff.
Frankly I like the smell of fish cooking, but that is just me.
Pancakes, Really - but they are so easy to make.
The trick behind french fries it to cut, parboil, freeze - cook
Pancakes are just too easy but look for a recipe that it from the 20's or 30's
Mash potatoes - mustard, or mayo or the egg trick
Making puff pastry relaxes me
Pho - my big trick is my homemade demi-glaze

My big thing though is anything that has a hot liquid I can make doughnuts and sometimes will but still have that issue with the hot oil. Ditto with bagles it's the hot water - it's a safety thing with me

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Annoying Lunch Habits of Coworkers

@BitchinFixins
Ok that is just too creepy - I'd have to find another job

Fish should always be banned and I love the smell of fish no matter how it's cooked

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Culinary No Fly Zones

I’m trying not to get upset will all of you haters of tripe and liver (two of my favorite foods on the planet)

Durian I just don’t get it
Ok maybe eyeballs but frankly have not had a chance to try them
I refuse to eat anything I have to chase, Once it’s on my plate it should just stay there. It moves not gonna eat it
I don’t under any circumstances eat green or orange Jello, those are simply not colors in nature
Okra no purpose all that slime, no can do, but I do like it fried
@Carmason Dude one of my favorite snacks was pickled pig feet before I converted
@thesteveroller I’m with you on the primate "bush meat” yea I’d have to be really hungry
@twistie – escargot well I think it’s over rated (more garlic butter than anything else) but there is a street food in Korea that is the smaller snail that you suck through a straw kinda like tapioca balls
@ ReneeRobinson You have to have the genetic disposition for prion disease

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Eating at Someone Else's House

For those of you that don’t care so much about the sanitation of where / what you eat let me point out that I am sure that is oky-doky until you contract guillain barre syndrome, while rare; the question is, Do you really want to roll those dice.
As for the cat’s and dog’s It amazes me that people really don’t realize that animals lick not just their privates but their feet and that is where the really dangerous bacteria hangs out (being gram negative and all), cross contamination is cross contamination by any other name. As a side not anthrax (the flavor that makes you sick not the one that kills you) is the most common bacteria passed between man and dog.
That crap about an animal’s mouth is cleaner is such bunk – the animals mouth is designed to get rid of the micro critters that would harm it not humans. I use to inspect kitchens in the military and if you wanted to fail just don’t clean the can openers. Granted we were not born with sanitizers or at least not chemical ones but we do have the bacteria in our mouths, nose and digestive system.
In the western world while we personally may not work on the food / germ free front you bet any food producer does and what this means to the consumer is that a lot of the bacteria that we could have be exposed to as children and built up the resistance for we have not done so because it we were never exposed. I would imagine that people would go for the “It’s better to be safe than sorry” idea rather than “a food born illness between friends is OK”.
I refuse to eat at a person who once was a friend because once she got cats she would let them run over all food surfaces and you had to fight them down with whatever you were eating. I go so sick at her house so many times after the cats that I just dissolved the friendship.
Side bar on pots after I wash them I heat them up on the stove to sanitize so if I missed a bit of food or there is still a residue of soap I’ll see it and give the pan a re-wash.

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Should Meat Eaters Slaughter Their Own Meat?

This is such a timely subject for me, just yesterday a friend and I were talking about my feelings for being able to slaughter an animal that I had raised. I went to the largest Agriculture school in the US (W. B. Saul of Agri Sci. in Philly) and my major was meat cutting. As a side note because I went to this school (it was my H.S.) I was able to see most foods from beginning to processed / sold end.

One of the things that I tried to point out to my friend is that I was not socialized, by PETA and other supposed animal rights groups (BTW these people for the most part have never raised animals for profit nor usually have ever had pets).
Killing animals is not a moral issue because it’s not about right or wrong but it’s about survival, humans are omnivores we are kinda built to eat meat. If people choose to not eat meat then it’s a life choice wrapping that life choice in some type of higher morality, to make other people feel some kind of guilt belies the biological fact of the nature of humans. If we were meant to eat only veggies and fruits we would have either more then one compartment in our stomachs or a gizzard.

Animals are animals; do they feel? Of course they do, but I also believe that everything that has life would really like to keep it as long as it can and that goes for spinach as well as spiders, fish and grass. And I’m pretty sure that a cancer tumor is thinking it’s got a sweet life going for it, but in the reality of the cycle of life something must die for something else to live.

@13tracker – it’s not just that a rabbi does it but it’s also a prayer for Kosher it’s in Hebrew if it’s Halal then it’s in Aramaic
@Mandyeats – She would have really freaked out with my chicken head and feet (which is my secret to the best chicken stock ever)

PS
I didn't think the slide show was all that gory and 40 years ago we did it the cave man way. I love all the equipment you had and that cone to hold the bird and the machine to take off the feathers I’m jealous.

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Post it or keep it a secret?

@dbcurrie - thanks for the insight
@humgryhungryhippo - could not agree more

I develop recipes so those of course I don’t give out or better said I copyright the darn things and even so you actually have to monitor the recipes to make sure someone does not accidently put them in a cookbook somewhere. Needless to say I’ve learned a good lesson about the honestly of people and how the copyright laws work. I don’t think anyone cares if someone copies a recipe and makes it, however it becomes an issue when they take the recipe and then shamelessly profit from it.

I do have recipes that I have added a different spin to or done something I term as a slight of hand in those cases I freely give out that info and will post it.

There are some recipes that I keep to myself but those are the ones that I believe have the potential to make money.

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Food Trend you wish would fade away?

@ oldelady - Thank-you, Thank-you Thank-you

I'm thinking that people that have no taste pallet at all think that if they can say they had bacon ice-cream and any of these other strange and unwieldy concoctions will make them sound trendy, when in reality they just sound like poor trailer trash or a kids "dare you"

I’ve never liked velvet cake I’ve eaten it made by s real southern bell, vinegar and all, nope don’t like it


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The Food Lab's Guide to Corned Beef and the Science of Simmering

Update My poor comment

it should read "I went on a search for a subsitute and found it in Morton Salts tender cure"

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The Food Lab's Guide to Corned Beef and the Science of Simmering

Several years ago I got the idea of making my own corn beef and after much reading the whole salt peter thing was just a bit daunting for me (not to mention in several states you can’t purchase it because the compound is used in explosives). With that said I went on a search for a substitute and found it in Morton Salt’s “Tender Cure” it truly is no muss or fuss all you do is add your spices to the amount of Tender Cure following the instructions and you are on your way. Mind you it’s not as dramatic but it does get the job done for us cowards and chemistry challenged.

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Is the Customer Always Right?

I think of this as a balancing act. There is a bakery near my home that I no longer go to because of the Chef’s particular way he wanted to serve things (they had an assortment of petite fours and I didn’t like one of the flavors and just wanted that one omitted) and as other posters have pointed out the bakery went out of business.
I am beyond lactose intolerant I don’t have the enzyme to digest cow’s milk. So when I go out to eat I don’t do cream sauces. I can eat a cream sauce only if the lactose has been totally broken down. In addition I’m Jewish so I have that meat and milk thing going on. I also have a problem with sugar substitutes (often pre-made lemon aid is made with equal or some sugar substitute) so I drink coffee or water. My point is that if you know you are sensitive to an ingredient then you really should know what that ingredient may show up in, if you are allergic to nuts then going to a Thai restaurant and believing that nuts (peanuts) will be omitted from everything is just silly, but on the flip side, if you ask for a bit less chilies and in retaliation the cook should not be adding more chilies, they can just as easily say no to the request. (someone did this and I just blogged them to death)
I believe that the customer is right within reason but people that go out to eat and then believe that it’s OK to totally change the menu item is way over board, I know people who do this and after they are done with their requests it’s no long the posted menu item. While it may have been funny in “When Harry met Sally” in real life it’s just rude. My take is that if there is something that I would like but an ingredient that I know is added more or less at the end then I’ll ask but if the ingredient is an intrinsic part of the dish then I look for something different on the menu. No harm on foul
I also when I have people over ask what they don’t like to eat and if they have any allergies. I am cooking a meal for someone I feel it’s a gift and as gifts go it’s the receiver that needs to be pleased not the giver otherwise it’s not a gift

PS
When I cooked in restaurants I loved when the orders were the same that way I knew that I did not have to play the time and temp game and was guaranteed that both patrons would get their food at the same time

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Stories of Astonishing Food Ignorance

Ahh and here is mine

When I was in the military I ran kitchens and had several airman under my command (airmen can be male or female). It was my last year in the service so I wanted to go out with a bang. So I really did the cooking from scratch gourmet thing with the holiday meals.

Well for Halloween I got fresh pumpkins and did a pumpkin carving class and also a discussion about squash. Well the day after Halloween I had my airmen cook the pumpkins to make the filling for pumpkin pie to be used for Thanksgiving pumpkin pies.

When the baker I was training came in I told her that we had made the filling and how to store it.

And here is the kicker – she had this quizzical look on her face and then said “pumpkin pie mix? I thought pumpkins came out of a can.

Quickly turning and mouthing that I would kill anyone in my crew that laughed I turned back around and said “yes pumpkins are grown, peeled, cooked and are then put in a can.”

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Anthony Bourdain On Culinary School

I’m going to say the same thing that I would say about going to any school after High School be it a college or a tech school.
The first thing anybody should do is, first go to 5 places that you want to work and interview the managers. Ask them what they look for in a resume (school / work experience). Ask them what schools do they think have relevant programs. Ask about the pay scale. If school is going to cost you 50K then that means that you will have a monthly bill for 8 years of about $600, so the question is will you be able to pay that school loan off with the pay scale for that job and still have a life.
I interviewed 5 different managers of vary different kitchens only two said that having gone to school would give the person an edge provided all things were equal so far as job experience. All managers said that kitchen experience would win out (actually I got a few job offers). In the end I worried that the long hours and the dedication it would take maybe a bit too much for me now (I worked in 3-5 star restaurants in Philly and managed kitchens in the military). When I hear people talking about culinary schools I just cringe because I know from personal experience that a kitchen is hard work and if it’s at the higher end (where you actually make money) it’s really hard and the competition is tough.
I would recommend that if people want to get into the restaurant business volunteer at a place that actually cooks and servers meals and of course try to get a part-time job in a kitchen. Just because your family and friends believe you can cook does not necessarily mean you can cook in an industrial situation. Professional kitchens are a whole different animal when it comes to cooking

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You might be a foodie if...

-You think that hunting down an exotic ingredient is the ultimate sport

-You toss and turn over the purchase of a Himalayan salt slab that is on Sale. Don’t need it but damn you sooo want it

-You subscribe to the food porn website and can hardly wait for the next installment in your e-mail.

-Everything on your must have or bucket list is food equipment

-When you realize you are down to your last 5 pounds of 00 flour and know just how long it will take you to get to the store for more.

@alwayslearning – If she does not take you to Reading market disown her

@rcammorota – Only 5 types, how do you survive?

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Knife Skills: How to Hold a Knife

The first thing I teach people in the kitchen is to hold the knife using the blade grip. This of course is just after I explain that oddly for your own safety and to keep your fingers your knife should always be kept sharp. The reason you want to develop using the blade grip method is so that you keep something that is razor sharp in your control, which is a good thing when discussing razor sharp and fingers in the same sentence.
I also tell people that knives should feel a certain way in your hand so the knife needs to be "in your hand" and it does not really matter at some point the cost of the knife. A sturdy blade is a must for most jobs excluding skinning or filleting (where you would need a flexible blade). A knife should "feel" like you have a good grip on it without cramping your hand or so light that it feels like it could slip and any moment.

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Bread Baking: The Simplest White Bread Ever

One of my little secrets is to put bread in the frig to slow down the rising process.
I think that if you just add 3 tbs of the sourdough starter it should work, meaning it will give you the sourdough taste without the battle that can go on between the sourdough and the yeast.

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Have you ever just been completly insulted preparing a meal?

As the axiom goes there is no accounting for bad taste. Better yet –No good deed goes unpunished. What I have learned is that most people grew up with mothers that don’t cook or worse had no idea of what a stove is because they went through one microwave a year. People like these have no idea of what fresh food looks like or tastes like so go into a panic when presented with decent food.
I grew up back east with both my mom and dad as rival cooks of each other, dinner time could be rather stressful with then bickering about who make the better biscuits or chicken. As a young adult most of my friend were restaurant owners these people owned 3- 5 star restaurants so if I made a meal it had better be slamming. But then I move to Southern California, where it is fashionable NOT to show up at events that you are invited to even if you have RSVP. I spend not only just a boodle of time but I spend money on my meals and when you invite 20 people and only 2 show-up then you have the mother lode of leftovers. So after a couple of times, what I have learned living in So Cal is not to invite anyone ever to my home for any meal. If I someone happens to be at my home and it happens to be a meal time then maybe, just maybe I’ll offer a meal otherwise I just don’t bother.
I personally find it disturbing that when you make food that actually looks good or that is actually prepared that people call it “Fancy” Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot. And they wonder why there is an epidemic of obesity in this country.

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The Burger Lab: Recreating the Spotted Pig's Chargrilled Burger at Home

Ok, I don't mean to be mean but as for the meat - I suspect they use hanging prime beef that is why there is that extra edge of fat. If you used supermarket meats which are usually some variant of choice beef you would not have gotten that extra fat boost. Also the fat in prime beef is different and tends to blend better with the lean meat when ground. Granted prime beef is far from cheap, but it always makes one heck of a burger and meat loaf is to die for.

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The Pillsbury Bake-Off makes me sad...

I agree with the other responders that the important thing is that Pillsbury market their products, no matter how unhealthy they maybe. I would think that now since the tide is turning to more healthy eating that they would start to move more of the scratch stuff to the “A” column. But most people have been brain washed to believe that anything that is not “quick and easy” is just too hard to do as if they have not done anything more then microwave any thing in their lives and then wonder why their weight is out of control.
Personally I think that the downfall of the American diet is the invention of the microwave oven.

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The World's Saddest Cookbook

OK, now I get to show my age. My mom thought that microwaves were instruments of the devil and I don’t think my mom ever used one. I grew up without microwaves and I was a teenager by the time McDonald’s became a house hold name. In short I only grew up with foods made from scratch. There was not a big selection of frozen foods, when I was a child. I think at that time there was Swanson (chicken, turkey, beef pot pies) and after a bit Hungry Man dinners that up the ante so Swanson came out with a version or two. Back then your class and status of homemaker, woman and lady all hinged on being able to cook a good meal. Not being insensitive but only people that were considered lower class did not cook and brought what my mom would call store brought bread. In my mom’s opinion anything other then condiments were either made from scratch or not eaten at all, if you could not pronounce the ingredient then you didn’t eat it. She also believed that only poor people ate hamburger so I had my first hamburger when I was 19 and my first meat loaf when I was maybe 21.
So for me any cookbook with “Microwave” in it is by definition sacrilegious

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Cook the Book: Peanut Butter and Jelly Bread

I agree with Shelby - but passover is over so I'll give this a try but with out the jelly, I just can't see it
Hamnjam - There are a lot of egg breads that have been made for centuries without people dying (think challah). We jews have been eating it each and every Shabbat without harm.
As a matter of fact the easiest breads to learn are the egg based ones because they are so forgiving. The yeast chews away at all that egg protein and changes it.
Americans have a rather strange view of eggs in general because most people have been told that eggs are a dangerous thing but they are only if handled incorrectly, which most people will do, so the FDA has put the fear of g-d in to folks about eggs.

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Why are professional cooks and bakers so poorly paid?

As a side note – the difference Between a cook and a chef is that when a cook messes up it’s a mess, but when a chef messes up it’s an opportunity.

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Why are professional cooks and bakers so poorly paid?

Several years ago after a very long hiatus (20 years) from the kitchen I looked into going to a cooking school. Previously I had spent the better part of my early teen and young adult years around food and in kitchens. Since the resurgence of celebrity chefs I was thinking it may not be a bad time to see if I could go back to my passion of cooking.

I had two concerns, I wanted to see if the pay scaling had changed for experienced chefs here in Los Angeles because unless you are a celebrity chef your competition is undocumented people; which is the prime reason I looked for a different career once I moved to LA, because I quickly realized that I could not live on making less then 6 dollars and hour which is the going rate for undocumented people. Back east I was use to a higher pay scaling then what is afforded here in Los Angeles.

The trick I learned was to first investigate the job field I was looking to get into. What that includes is reading all that I can about the job, looking at schools that supposedly teach in that field, most important what is long term cost. If I am unfamiliar with the field I try and find someone that works in the field and see if I can shadow them for a week. Last but not lease I choose 5 places that seem like places I would like to work and then I interview the managers / owners to see what formal education means and what they will pay for education vs work experience.

What I have learned from my investigation is that spending well over 45 grand is just not worth it for a lot of the so called “culinary” schools, certainly not to your potential employers as far as working in a kitchen goes (education does factor in fields such as dietitians and food stylist) as the NY Times points out most of these schools are simply not worth the money. Again back to the restaurants you interviewed ask them about the schools you are considering, they will know which schools have the best track record.

Le Cordon Bleu school and others like it flood the market with people that can barley hold a knife (look at an episode of Chopped), add to that high school kids and undocumented people and there is just this ton of people for employers to choose from. Remember we live in fast food nation, the bulk of food related jobs will be in the area of fast food and I seriously doubt you can make much more then minimum wage.

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Therapeutic tedium... or hateful kitchen tasks I strangely enjoy

I love being in a kitchen in general and anything that keeps me there longer even the better.

I can snap zillions of beans, shell peas, cut veggies, do the dishes, clean the kitchen.

Does not matter, for me it's like taking care of someone one you love and my kitchen is truly one of my beloveds.

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