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A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
havent been to luzzo's but please, una pizza? that place has by far the biggest scam going in nyc these days.
i kinda dug demarcos actually. i guess ill have to get my pizza fix in brooklyn.
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The Ultimate Cleanse?
i did this last year...for about 4 days. the first day was by far the worst...it wasnt just the food that i craved, it was the social aspect of eating that i missed most.
what frightened me was how used to not eating your body actually gets. i felt like i was harming my body but felt a lot of guilt if i quit. by day 4, i decided it wasnt worth it and weaned myself back on food.
i did have some funky poops after a day or two...but in the end, it was a low calorie diet that made you lose weight. maybe id try something again but im very healthy and exercise.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
havent been to luzzo's but please, una pizza? that place has by far the biggest scam going in nyc these days.
i kinda dug demarcos actually. i guess ill have to get my pizza fix in brooklyn.
Win Two Passes to the Big Apple Barbecue Party
for pure texas pig awesomeness, my favorite bbq joint is vera's backyard bbq near brownsville.
http://www.internetcyberplace.com/RESTAUR/TEXAS/BROWNV/VERA//index.htm
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
Ed-
I think Luzzo's is plagued by a fundamental problem that is not related to the quality of the pizza. The prices border on excessive and the small pie's crust is sub-par. I believe they use the same size dough circle for both their large and small pies. Every time I have had a small pie there, the crust has been too doughy and flat. I have never experienced that when ordering a large.
Save the sushiesque pricing and lone size option, their large Diavola pie is worth the detriments the restaurant has. As of now it is my favorite pie in Manhattan.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I tried the master cleanse about 3 years back, but only for 4 days (due to some life circumstances) Those 4 days were actually quite helpful, and kickstarted my weightloss and physical activity.
I was fairly sedentary (though I walked to and from work every day, about 1 mile each way) and had some poor eating habits.
After the cleanse, I had more energy, and began going to the gym, and eventually went from (6'2") 230 pounds, to 198... I've slacked off on the gym slightly since then, but maintained most of the eating habits, and currently I'm 210... It's probably not for everyone, but I did find that it helped, even for such a short duration. The energy increase was the biggest benefit I found.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I tried the Master Cleanse back in the fall, not really to lose weight, but to flush out all the bad stuff in my body. The "lemonade" wasn't actually that bad -- I had plenty of energy and was never hungry or grumpy. However, it did make me realize how much my life revolves around food because I was BORED CRAZY. No going out to dinner or drinks with friends, no cooking at home, no lazy brunch on the weekends -- not even my favorite cup of tea at night. I broke down 5 days into it, not out of hunger, but because I just missed eating so much. I really can't see a foodie getting into a cleanse like this. That, and the lemonade really hurts your teeth enamel. Oh and the benefits? There weren't really any. I wouldn't recommend it for much more than a test of personal will.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
@chiff: AMEN! Having been zaftig my entire life, I have tried literally every diet on the market. The gods saved me by my getting pregnant with my daughter, I swear. Not only did I only gain 15 lbs. during pregnancy (understand, those of you who are inclined to disbelieve, I started at 185 lbs.), but I felt amazing (once the morning sickness dissipated). Reason being, I was eating fresh, organic-mostly, local and healthful meals...3 regular and two small per day. I contined said diet while nursing and just haven't stopped. Daughter is now three. I credit pregnancy for awakening my latent desire to nuture through good food. And, although I may never be thin--I like cheese and dislike vigorous exercise far too much for that--my weight is balanced, my skin is clear, my hair is shiny and I have the energy of a size six woman at a size sixteen.
Really, it works, folks...just cultivate a healthy and respectful relationship with what you put in your body and all will be well.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I've heard really positive things about it. Experts say not to do these cleanses too often, even though the Master Cleanse people say that you can do it as often as you want.
The lemonade is a great detoxifier, even if used without the fast.
Give it a try after you've done the research (which you're doing now).
The Ultimate Cleanse?
@ original poster: Maybe it'd be better to just eat "clean foods". Lots of raw vegetables and fruits. Rice, clear soups, organic salmon (simply cooked).
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The Ultimate Cleanse?
i was reading about a book 21 pounds in 21 days. it's a juice cleanse/diet for 21 days. You juice fruits and veg and drink it. No chewing. There may be some protein powders involved.
It appealed to me because i'm about to have some extensive dental work done soon and will have to be on a liquid diet for a short while and this sounded like a good way to keep my nutrition up while not being able to chew.
If anyone has any ideas, let me know.
I've already got a list of stuff to have on hand and some recipes i have to pre-make as follows:
applesauce
yogurt
v8 (or juice my own)
Ice cream (Yay!)
Pea Soup (homemade)
Egg Drop Soup (homemade)
Potato & Leek soup (homemade)
Chicken stock
mashed potatoes
mashed carrots
I'd better get cookin, surgery is Friday.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I've had a few friends who have done the Master Cleanse, and every single one of them swears by it. A lot of them don't do it for the weight loss, but more for the fact that it makes them feel great afterwards. They feel "purified."
I'm no medical expert, but I have the sneaking suspicion that the reason they feel so great is because after literally starving yourself for 7-21 days, your body gets its first taste of sweet, sweet food, and it feels euphoric. Well, folks, that has nothing to do with "detoxing" your body. There have been studies that show that during periods of semi-starvation, your body becomes preoccupied with food -- a natural survival instinct.
But I'm not going to completely knock the idea of Master Cleanse. The act of fasting has been around for centuries, and it holds a lot of symbolism in the idea of the power of mind over body.
Just don't do it to lose weight. It won't work in the long run. For a healthy body, moderation and exercise are best. And if you want to "detox" your colon, eat LOTS of fibrous foods: whole grains, fruits with skins, leafy greens and lots of nuts and legumes. Your poo will thank you.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I concur with everything that NYC1313 said. I felt amazing starting with day 3 - very clear mentally and a lot of energy. And I lost about 15 lbs. But I did it more as a challenge to myself and not as a weight loss technique. Also, after coming off the diet, I *loved* food for about three weeks. I didn't over-eat at all, but every bite of food tasted like heaven.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
Other than 3 hours of Atkins about five years ago
@blackolive - I lasted four days! And to corroborate the above statement about it not being fun for those around me - Bingo.
I'd love to say Atkins is the worst of the worst of fad diets. But there was another one - Fit For Life. OMG. How lame. This diet touted "food combining" as nirvana and tried to explain to people that consuming a lean turkey sandwich on whole grain bread with mustard, lettuce and tomato was bad for you - because you ate bread with your meat; oftentimes referred to as "flesh." Way to trick people into vegetarianism! Under cover of "food combining."
When you embark on a mission to lose weight, cutting down on fat and bad carbs, watching portion control and increasing water intake, you usually experience a "first week weight loss" that will register on the scale and in your mood. (It's a real shot in the arm when you want to see results.) Sure, a quick, all liquid jolt to jump start a diet plan makes sense in theory but as long as you lose weight by doing something you can't maintain or adopt as your "normal way of life," the results will quickly reverse themselves. This is the dictionary definition of a "fad diet," the magic bullet, a quick fix to a problem that can be remedied by replacing a lethargic lifestyle with moderate exercise and eating better food in sensible quantities.
I tried everything. Alli (does the term "anal leakage" mean anything to you?); Weight Watchers (points? When I want to do math, I'll balance my checkbook); Jenny Craig (OMG. This stuff is food "colored" but WTF is it??); Hydroxycut (jittery? WHO ME?) - short of the cabbage soup diet. When I made a conscious effort to watch portion control and upped my exercise, I started to like what I saw on the scale and in the mirror a lot better. This doesn't even take into account that I felt much better and performed lots of strength-based tasks whenever opportunities to do so presented themselves.
When you do things to honor your body, it's a whole new 'tude.
The Ultimate Cleanse?
Fasting isn't necessarily bad for our bodies, but it's got to be done the right way. I wouldn't start with two weeks the first time, for example. What about a "cleanse" of only clear liquids (broths, miso soup) and raw and lightly cooked vegetables for a few days? I bet that would eliminate that sluggish feeling. Make sure to add back grains very slowly over several days when you're done, because otherwise you can eliminate the energy benefit you got from the fast.
Everyone who posted that fasting isn't a good idea for weight loss was right on - unless you're doing it regularly, e.g. one day a week or a few days per month, one period of fasting is unlikely to cause anything but water weight loss.
On the other hand, many people have excellent results with fasts and cleanses, and certainly the one you're talking about has enough history that you can feel okay about trying it. And fasting is no fad, having been done for medicinal and spiritual reasons throughout human history.
There's a great chapter in Annemarie Colbin's 'Food And Healing' about fasting and cleansing - the book is a great resource in general, but that section is especially illuminating. Good luck!
The Ultimate Cleanse?
One person on the ppk did the cleanse and reported that it destroyed her metabolism, leading her to gain twenty pounds.
You could try a raw fast instead?
The Ultimate Cleanse?
I did the cleanse for 19 days. I felt great by about the 3rd day, amazing energy, good sleep, clearer mentally and really good workouts. I did speak with a doctor after I had done it and the general feeling is that it isn't healthy. It can affect your metabolism and cause something called fatty liver.
It's recommended that you also drink a laxative tea at night and a saline flush in the am with the lemon drink during the day. You do lose weight, but it is water weight. As soon as you eat, you go back to your normal weight. I am a healthy eater, so I didn't have any ill affects from lack of caffeine, nicotine or sugar. In the end, all it really proved to be was a test of willpower and discipline. As other posters have mentioned, a balanced diet with exercise will achieve better results in the long term.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
perhaps try later in the evening when the oven is hotter.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
All right, Margherita, I am going to give Luzzo's a second chance. I'll report back.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
Ed--I urge you to give Luzzo's a second chance. I actually do not go that often, as I swear my allegiance to Vinny Vincenz, but Luzzo's offers something a little different. The crust does not blow me away. I don't think it packs in a whole lot of flavor, but the pies I have tasted were both light and moist with some great burn spots. (Though that pie looks a little dense to me.)
Anyway, not every great pizzeria is always on point. The last time i had Frank Pepe's, it was rather flat (and the garlic in the clam pie did not taste all that fresh). I still love Frank Pepe's, maybe I picked a bad day to go.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
I've had Robert's pizza (he's the guy that owns A Mano). He had a pizzeria in Pittsburgh.
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
You guys have got to cross the river and check out A Mano in Ridgewood NJ!!
A Luzzo's Pizza Exploration
jpp, check out isabella's oven on grand street. It's inconsistent, but when it's good it's really good. Don't go at lunch. I've had all kinds of bad reports about the food at lunch.
Win Two Passes to the Big Apple Barbecue Party
Blue Ribbon in Arlington, MA if I'm anywhere north of Tennessee. Otherwise, I just can't pick.
But I LOVED both Kreuz Market and the Salt Lick. Mmmmm
Win Two Passes to the Big Apple Barbecue Party
National: Kreuz Market, Lockhart, TX
NY State: Big W's, Pawling, NY
NYC: RUB (Daisy May's loses only b/c of their irritating TV ads)
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Big W's Roadside BBQ in Pawling, NY
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Daisy May's, RUB and Dinsosaur
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i did this last year...for about 4 days. the first day was by far the worst...it wasnt just the food that i craved, it was the social aspect of eating that i missed most.
what frightened me was how used to not eating your body actually gets. i felt like i was harming my body but felt a lot of guilt if i quit. by day 4, i decided it wasnt worth it and weaned myself back on food.
i did have some funky poops after a day or two...but in the end, it was a low calorie diet that made you lose weight. maybe id try something again but im very healthy and exercise.