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Barista in the Wild, Part 4: A Relationship With Espresso

That espresso shot looks pretty nasty. I would have to disagree about robusta though-- I've never had a great espresso with robusta. Good, sure, but not great. I've had a number of great espressos from arabica coffees, though. For Starbucks, it's more a matter of how fresh their coffee truly is and how it's pulled-- which when it's pulled out of an automatic machine, there's little hope there.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Good series.
I'd love to see a world where Starbucks does public cuppings too, but first we need to see some of the 'small-batch' coffees you say they have trickle down to the stores outside of Seattle. Somehow I feel like you would hear the word 'smoky' quite a bit at cupping at your average Starbucks.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 4: A Relationship With Espresso

That espresso shot looks pretty nasty. I would have to disagree about robusta though-- I've never had a great espresso with robusta. Good, sure, but not great. I've had a number of great espressos from arabica coffees, though. For Starbucks, it's more a matter of how fresh their coffee truly is and how it's pulled-- which when it's pulled out of an automatic machine, there's little hope there.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Good series.
I'd love to see a world where Starbucks does public cuppings too, but first we need to see some of the 'small-batch' coffees you say they have trickle down to the stores outside of Seattle. Somehow I feel like you would hear the word 'smoky' quite a bit at cupping at your average Starbucks.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

I also think that food like pastries and the like should NOT be served at Starbucks b/c they usually taste disgusting (not even if placed in their microwave/toaster oven) and are only offered b/c it's an easy, cheap way to make a bigger profit (just like soda at fast-food places).

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Hi Allison
I'm sorry if you thought my comment was directed at you. I agree that not enough people take Starbucks seriously. They do so many charitable things and really are environmentally and socially conscious so that it makes it hard to actually consider an alternative. No way the local shops can afford to pay for the coffee growers health insurance...or have as much of a committment to recycling as *$ does. And the volunteer programs are incredibly generous. When I said "stop complaining" I was referring to some of the other comments.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 4: A Relationship With Espresso

I would never mock anyone in a barista position. In the end we're all working towards a common goal as long as we're taking quality seriously. It's just hard to imagine training that many employees on a manual machine and have the consistency that is craved in coffee shops. I respect Starbucks baristas with all of my coffee being and I don't think any less of them because I work on a La Marzocco and they don't. We just have different methods of training and different business models.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

I think the term "small batch" is pretty relative in this case, granted I'm not sure how small the "small batches" really are, but they are in limited qualities in contrast to the large amounts of the regular packaged coffees they sell.

Additionally—I suggested cuppings as a way for people in the coffee industry to take Starbucks a bit more seriously. so many of us disregard Starbucks as a viable coffee option, but the fact is, a lot of the process of selecting coffee for the stores is such an intense process made by some really knowledgeable people. I haven't seen any cuppings in the NYC area but I'd love to start seeing them around. NYC stores are usually so crowded it's hard for me to imagine how a cupping would actually work. I'm into the more proactive approach so I'd love to start seeing some of these popping up around the city to get more minds wrapped around how coffee cuppings are just like wine tastings.. and they can be just as popular if approached in an accessible way.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Uhh- The definition of SMALL batch makes it impossible to distribute nationally. THey don't have enough, keeping true to the mantra "Quality over quantity." Small batch. Small amount of beans. Small amount of coffee. Limited availability. Would you also have a small production winery make their wines available at Costco, or your local supermarket. It's a specialty item. ALSO, Starbucks DOES do public cuppings. It's completely up to your local store, but they can do public tastings, educations, learning series, and presentations whenever they want. Actually, part of the "black apron" training is to prepare and give a presentation. Has anyone ever asked their local store managers to consider something like this? Stop complaining and start being proactive.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 4: A Relationship With Espresso

I though they already had a super automatic machine before the Mastraina, the ones I see at Safeway with the more square hopper lids? Why buy new machines then close down a bunch of stores 6 months later because of budget costs? It would have been easier to tell that machine manufacture to take a hike. Like what are they going to do?

"I suppose when you have over 150,000 employees working in stores with such a high turnover rate, the time, effort and maintenance required for a manual machine isn't worth it. Pushing buttons cuts down on hours in training time, leaving employees to study recipes and milk steaming methods." As a former Starbucks employee, this sentence mocks my position... true I worked on the La Marzocco machine, but it make us Starbucks Baristas out to be fast-food McDonalds employees.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

I agree. Stop shaking iced coffee and iced tea. If you want to make iced tea -- make iced tea. Shaking iced tea (or iced coffee and making it foam) is just -wrong-. And using iced tea concentrate and then just watering it down and filling up the cup with water is bad...

I really think you guys should make -real tea- and then put it back on the menu :)

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

I find Seattle's Best to be the most ironic name--I'll stick to Lighthouse... then Vivace, Cafe Vita, and Herkimer all have both SBs beat by a mudslide.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 4: A Relationship With Espresso

I agree ! there is very little hope there
I have had some great espressos back in my days as an intern in Paris and I tried some starbucks espresso the other day - it does not even come close !

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

I was a barista for a few years and miss using the La Marzocco machine. My weak left wrist is a constant reminder of those days.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Cuppings or comparative tastings?

Every coffee wonk has it in their head that layman consumers are going to want to slurp, spit, make rude noises, and go through all the machinations coffee professionals have used for years to taste for defects.

Meat inspection might be a fun social game in your social circles, but not mine. A comparative tasting will do just fine instead.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

Cuppings or comparative tastings?

Every coffee wonk has it in their head that layman consumers are going to want to slurp, spit, make rude noises, and go through all the machinations coffee professionals have used for years to taste for defects.

Meat inspection might be a fun social game in your social circles, but not mine. A comparative tasting will do just fine instead.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

@robmareel & @jonathan: thanks for the feedback. glad you guys enjoyed it.

I think the small-batch coffees will make their way out of Seattle and some of the other Clover markets, they're rolling them out slowly.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

If you want a good cup of coffee, try Seattle's Best. Rich, low acid coffee. Border's Books all have Seattle's Best in their cafes, with real barrista's brewing.

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Barista in the Wild, Part 5: The Future of the Coffee Shop

This has been a pretty cool series. Here is an interesting iPhone app that came from Starbucks Baristas' frustration with large group orders. Its taking over the coffee world.

http://www.exectones.com/apps.php

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