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The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
I would have to dissagree with you. NE wins the hotdog war. numerous NY food writers have pointed at Flo's Hotdogs to be the best hotdog is the country. I've been to a lot of great steak house's in NY and Grille 23 trumps them all. I think I would rather have a Lobster roll or some Fried ipswich clams then a pastrami sandwhich which i will have to say is very good. And last time I heard eli's cheesecake even though not boston is much better then any thing you get in NY And boston creme pie is much better then any of them. Another one that we dominate is Chowdah. you can take your crappy manhatten chowder and shove it up yours while we savor the best chowdah in the Country. When was the last time Manhatten chowder was served at a presidentail inaguration. Also one more Thing boston has. Dunkin Donuts. 'nuff said
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The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
Toojays which anybody who vacations or live south of tampa in FLorida would know has the best B&W's they have 20 locations in florida. They also have the best NY deli sandwichs out of NY
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
I would have to dissagree with you. NE wins the hotdog war. numerous NY food writers have pointed at Flo's Hotdogs to be the best hotdog is the country. I've been to a lot of great steak house's in NY and Grille 23 trumps them all. I think I would rather have a Lobster roll or some Fried ipswich clams then a pastrami sandwhich which i will have to say is very good. And last time I heard eli's cheesecake even though not boston is much better then any thing you get in NY And boston creme pie is much better then any of them. Another one that we dominate is Chowdah. you can take your crappy manhatten chowder and shove it up yours while we savor the best chowdah in the Country. When was the last time Manhatten chowder was served at a presidentail inaguration. Also one more Thing boston has. Dunkin Donuts. 'nuff said
The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
I agree with Foodboy and Growler - Glasers beats Greenbergs in taste AND price! I think that their black and whites are number 1 and their brownies with nuts are out of this world.
Check them out - they are definitely worth the trip. We used to live just a few blocks away on the UES and it wreaked havoc on my diet.
The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
Finally had Glasers' black & whites and I have to say they are better than Greenbergs. I have a new number one. The search continues.
The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
The Black & White Cookie Company are the best. All natural, no preservatives, no corn syrup, unbleached flour, a very traditional New York Black & White Cookie.
The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
William Greenbergs black & whites are THE BEST! The rich creamy fondant icing is perfection and the melt in your mouth cookie is soft and yummy. This truly is the perfect Black & white cookie and the standard from which all others should be judged. I can't get enough of them - and they can ship the cookies right to your door!
The Best Black and White Cookies? Half-Moons? Amerikaners?
I grew up with what we called "Day N Nite" cookies in Gloversville, N.Y. I have tasted a number of different varieties and Rauch's Bakery in the Gloversville are absolutely best. They are extremely large and very moist. It is too bad they don't sell them elsewhere. I feel certain they would win "hands down" if compared to other recipes!!
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Each city/region has its strong points (and I lived 22 years in the New York area and 17 in Massachusetts). New York has much better bread and rolls (New England Italian and French bread and bulkie rolls are just different shapes of Wonder Bread!) I also never once found a decent chocolate cake in either a bakery or a restaurant there; they don't know how to make a decent milk chocolate, butter cream icing. And, in general, New York has better pizza, although Boston Pizzeria Regina is very good. Both do an equally good job with beef and good French food. Where New England excels, however, is with sea food. After 17 years in New England, I cannot eat seafood anywhere else without being disappointed! Great chowder, and in particular, fried clams.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Ed is right. There is no comparison here. Boston should try to compare their food to KC or some place like that. To even mention the two places in the same breath is giving Boston way too much credit.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Jules,
Both serve Sabrett hot dogs. This was confirmed to me not only by Sabrett distributors, but by the person in charge of private label at Marathon. Although they make franks in different sizes as well as either skinless or natural casing, there are only 2 recipes. All beef and beef/pork. The beef/pork frank is used at Jersey places such as Callahan's, The Hot Grill, and the Windmill. The beef dogs are used at pushcarts as well as Papaya King, Gray's, and Katz's. Papaya King and Gray's use identical 10 to a lb natural casing dogs while Katz's uses a slightly larger dog. But all from the same recipe. Papaya King likes to say that the dogs are made specially for them and that they have a different spice, but this is NOT true! The only difference between Gray's and Papaya King is how they are prepared at the individual restaurant. Gray's uses Sabrett mustard while Papaya King uses Admiration Dusseldorf Mustard. Papaya King is also one of the 10% of accounts where the dogs are delivered refrigerated, not frozen.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
In fact both Papaya King and Gray's serve hot dogs made by Sabrett (or rather Sabrett's parent company, Marathon). Here's the hot dog story I wrote for the New York Times. It's all there.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Hotdoglover,
If you think that Papaya King serves Sabrett's franks, you are sadly, sadly mistaken. Never confuse Gray's Papaya with the KING.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Neither New England, New York, or DC wins the hot dog war. North Jersey (where the so called N.Y. Giants play) is the hot dog capital of the World. While New York likes to claim the Sabrett brand as it's own, Sabrett originated in Jersey City, N.J. The company was sold a few times and is now owned by Marathon enterprises of New Jersey. The grilled Sabrett dogs served at Papaya King were predated by the ones served at Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City, N.J.
North Jersey also has much more variety in hot dogs. The Italian Hot Dog originated here. You can't get an authentic one anywhere else. Jersey also has Boardwalk style grilled beef and pork dogs. Crif Dogs in Manhattan is a blatant rip off of Rutt's Hut in Clifton. A former owner of Crif's admitted as much to me. Best Provisions out of Newark produces an all beef dog that far surpasses Sabrett, Nathan's, or anything else. Thumanns makes the best German style beef and pork dog. And they make the special dog for deep frying that is served at Rutt's Hut, Crif's, and many hot dog establishments in North Jersey.
New England has a few good brands of dogs (mostly from Connecticut) but doesn't touch North Jersey, or even New York. I would say The Hudson Valley or further north in New York State is a good area for hot dogs. I've been there and sampled the "White Hots", and Coney's. Flo's in Maine is highly overrated. A very bland steamed dog that is mediocre. They used to use a local dog called Schutz that has since gone out of business. Now they use an equally bland Old Neighborhood brand dog. To those of us in the New York/N.J. area, these dogs are bland, but New Englanders like them and consider our all beef dogs too spicy. The big draw at Flo's is their onion relish. I've never had it since I hate onions. It is mixed with mayonnaise! From what I hear, it is an aquired taste.
Kayem from Maine is a decent pork/beef dog. Rare in New England are all beef dogs, but Pearl Country Club is ok. Still milder than Best, Sabrett, Nathan's, or Hebrew National, this dog is served in a giant half pound size at a cart in Boston called Boston Speed. It is first marinated in apple juice and brown sugar and then charcoal grilled and topped with the owner's homemade barbecue sauce and other toppings. This place serves perhaps the best hot dog in all New England. Good, but for the best all beef dog anywhere, go to Jimmy Buff's in East Hanover, N.J. and ask for the footlong. This is a delicious, all beef, natural casing dog from Best Provisions that is sauteed in oil and then chargrilled. It is the same dog that was served at the recently departed Syd's, which was considered the best dog in the east, if not the whole country by many hot dog connoiseurs. Look for Jimmy Buff's to be featured on the upcoming show Hot Dog Paradises. It will be aired within the next month or two on the Travel Channel.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
So, Big Mike, how do you get from 18-0 to "lost a couple close ones"? Seems to me 18-0 means LOST NONE! :-) Think you mean *won* a couple close ones. Which leads to, the difference between a champion and the runner up is finding a way to win the close ones ....
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
Um.. Massachusetts invented the chocolate chip cookie. The Chocolate. Chip. Cookie. No contest there.
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
1. The Patriots are lucky they have won 18 straight - they've lost a couple of close games, including one to the Giants. Not that I'm a Giants fan....
2. Boston DOES have good Italian and Chinese food compared to most of the country, and I would say almost New York quality if not comparable can be found. Santarpio's Pizza in East Boston... that's great stuff right there.
3. Neither city wins the hot dog war, my hometown (Washington DC) wins that one - half-smokes from Ben's Chili Bowl - also great stuff. Other than that, Washington's culinary scene is rather pathetic, however, that's their one area to shine.
4. New York wins the deli and bagel war by FAR. I'm surprised, actually, at how bad these are in the Boston area - even where I live (Brighton/Brookline/Newton area) - there's not much selection and the only reason any of these places are good at all is because the pastrami is imported from NYC.
5. Boston cream pie, clam chowder, and lobster rolls - I would hardly call those "slim pickins'" - they're actually some of the best regional American cuisine there is.
SO - my final analysis - both cities have a lot going for them and I would say, along with Chicago and San Francisco and maybe another couple of cities (Providence included), they both have among the best food in the country,
The Food Super Bowl — Boston vs. New York: No Contest
dont forget the necco wafers and the fig newtons...both boston based!!
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Toojays which anybody who vacations or live south of tampa in FLorida would know has the best B&W's they have 20 locations in florida. They also have the best NY deli sandwichs out of NY