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Hot Dog of the Week: Philly Dirty Water Dog

Apologies Philadelphia! I was confusing you with Chicago.

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Brioche For Burgers?

I think that brioche is IDEAL for a burger! English muffins are the worst of cop-outs.

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Hot Dog of the Week: Philly Dirty Water Dog

Apologies Philadelphia! I was confusing you with Chicago.

From Talk

Brioche For Burgers?

I think that brioche is IDEAL for a burger! English muffins are the worst of cop-outs.

From A Hamburger Today

Five Guys' Fries Make Me Weep with Happiness, Burger Is Not Bad

The fries are wayyyy overrated! They must not cook them twice, or rinse them or soak them or neither. The fries are too starchy (and barely crisp) an end result. The burgers are very good though; bun has good density.

From Talk

Restaurant Naming Problems

Some suggestions:
- Harvest Thyme
- The Periodic Table
- hEarth
- Aliment

Good luck in your endeavours!

From Talk

Restaurant Naming Problems

Some suggestions:
- Harvest Thyme
- The Periodic Table
- Hearth
- Aliment

From Serious Eats

Should Restaurants Charge for Filtered Water?

Is there a non-filtered "free" option at Millennium?

From Serious Eats

Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

To hold Waters' views is a bourgeois luxury. Period.

From Talk

Beef: Grain Fed vs. Grass Fed?

I prefer a combination of grasses, wheats and grains (corn, etc..) like Snake River Farms produces. I am most certainly do not subscribe to Pollan's grass fed only agenda pushing; you can drink that kool-aid all day. I don't argue with my palette.

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Chewing the Fat: Alton Brown on Donuts

Opening music reminds me a lot of Rush's The Analog Kid!

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Recession Grocery Shopping: What Are You Doing Differently?

Also buying non-perishables in bulk at those club oriented super stores!

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Recession Grocery Shopping: What Are You Doing Differently?

Stopped shopping for specific recipes. Now I buy things with recurring meals in mind.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

You know they already sell Baconaise in the stores but it isn't made with real Bacon. It tastes really good though. I am going to make your version as I have some rendered bacon fat in my refrigerator. Never thought of making it myself. I can just imagine what that lamb mayo tastes like! Yikes. Lamb is such a highly flavored fat as it is.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Who knows if they really use bacon fat to make theirs, but there is a bacon flavored mayonnaise on the market called Baconnaise. It's been the butt of a running joke on the Daily Show.

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Hot Dog of the Week: Philly Dirty Water Dog

@hotdog_guy
nice blog! check it out people. It's brand new and is covering some areas that are in desperate need of hot dog research- the south and midwest
http://dogsontheroad.blogspot.com

@cxg231
thanks! "HK" are actually my initials (as well as Harry Kalas)..
might have to do another Philly dog next week.

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Hot Dog of the Week: Philly Dirty Water Dog

The "HK" on the illustration is a nice touch. Go Phillies!

From Talk

Restaurant Naming Problems

My suggestion: Shut Up and Eat! never use the word tasty.. I hate that word. Keep it simple. My old place was Tea and Symphony. It was an after-movie type place and had some live music, hence the play on words.
Good luck!

From Talk

Restaurant Naming Problems

Jimmy T's Tasty Eats (or Treats, though that might be misconstrued to mean deserts/pastries)---longer than I want, but a little catchy

From Talk

Restaurant Naming Problems


Keep it as simple as possible, like Pams or Jakes or Toms. And I would'nt add "Place". Dave

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Taco Bell's Volcano Taco with Lava Sauce Returns to Menus Nationwide

i love love love love love taco bell, and i have never had any digestive problems from this vendor. I have tried the volcano taco, and found it spicy-for spicy's sake, but not flavorful at all! Although I am curious about the burrito's higher meat content, which may make up for the lack-luster flavor of the taco. I guess I am just lucky to have low blood pressure and can have as much sodium as I want, and that my husband has banned me from taco bell except for every 1/300 urges. Haha.

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Taco Bell's Volcano Taco with Lava Sauce Returns to Menus Nationwide

I ate a volcano taco and thought it was too hot. I live in Texas and love love love spicy food...go figure.

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Taco Bell's Volcano Taco with Lava Sauce Returns to Menus Nationwide

taco bell isn't that bad for fast food. I'll eat some of the items on the menu, I just make sure i don't get the sour cream. it doesn't taste that great and just adds calories. i still feel better (less full and gross) than when i eat at a "burger" joint. maybe once every two months.

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Taco Bell's Volcano Taco with Lava Sauce Returns to Menus Nationwide

Taco Bell isn't bad as far as fast food is concerned. But under no circumstances should it be confused with Mexican food!

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Should Restaurants Charge for Filtered Water?

@Hillary, I agree that water should cost more, to encourage conservation. However, when you are drinking a glass of water because you are thirsty, its pretty impossible to be wasting water. Watering your lawn is a different story. Safe, clean drinking water should be free to everyone- or at least restaurants shouldn't be making a profit off of it, which Millenium obviously is.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

"But, at some point, there has to be movement beyond the prototype stage, into the real world of practical workability."

Agreed.
Baby steps, baby. Baby steps.... And they must be making an impact because- heck- we're talking about it, starting to make choices, organics are becomig more available, even in regular grocery stores, not just health food stores.
I'm sure that she tackles the real cost issues in her restaurant every day. Just read recently about a couple of chefs who've followed her lead and taken steps to grow kitchen gardens which provide fresher foods and defray operating costs.

Making it work in the real world takes more than one person.

BTW, I wear glasses too. No, not the rosy kind.... ;o) *L*

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

@grumpyglutton - I completely understand. To sell out your own cause for some ahem... subsidized dollars is unfortunate but not shocking. Such is the history of mankind I'm afraid.

@Mhila - I totally understand that too - there are NONE, not ONE CSA in this area. Even if you wanted to join - tough. There is an organic delivery service though, which is a step in the right direction.

@CJ McD - fight the good fight! To shoot the messenger for the message is to be willfully ignorant.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

Well, I do wear glasses, so the myopic remark is pretty on-target.

If you consider her restaurant as a prototype expression of her ideas, then I suppose it's fine.

But, at some point, there has to be movement beyond the prototype stage, into the real world of practical workability. I just wonder whether she's ever tackled the issue of cost with her restaurant. If she's never seriously considered it -- of if it never even occurred to her -- then (gasp!) the elitist word might be appropriate.

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Should Restaurants Charge for Filtered Water?

@finewinedine, your comment made me chuckle! I would never rent a straw either...As for free water, I actually wrote a blog post about this last year.Many European countries charge for water, so why don't we? I always felt water was a basic need that should be free, but there might be a larger picture here called conservation.

Hillary

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

" I'm referring to people who make less than $1.25/day. At least one in six people in the world fit that criteria. Of those people, the overwhelming majority are severely undernourished. Millions of children starve to death every year. Do you seriously believe that they can afford to spend more money on food? What's your solution for parts of the world with large populations and very little arable land? We're all aware that this isn't an all-or-nothing philosophy; growing vegetables at home is a good thing if you can do it, and buying foodstuffs (notably fruits and certain vegetables) from local farms at the peak of freshness is an enjoyable luxury, but the ideas you espouse as "world-saving" can't really be applied to most of the planet we live on."

You're reading more into my comments than what was written and are twisting my words. I haven't commented on world-saving nor the politics and government policies of world food sources. That's off topic but it merits discussion in another thread. (Let's keep that in mind. It's a great topic.)

All I have done is defended her efforts against critics.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

"Cost is a real issue for most people. It really should be taken seriously. If not, then the effort -- whether in respect to food or homes -- is going to be a boutique industry, irrelevant to most people for the simple reason that they can't afford it."

Yes. Cost is a real issue.

And as with any new process/product/movement, at the "beginning" of it (where we are now even though she's been promoting it for over 25 years and it until recently, has not been embraced and still meets with resistance) there are always and only a select few who can afford it; be it indoor plumbing, televisions or organic, fresh food.

But to label HER elitist because we are at the beginnings of a movement that CURRENTLY everyone cannot afford it sligtly myopic at best.


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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

It's great that she's started a foundation, authored books, etc. Those efforts seem more likely to convey her message than the restaurant, it seems to me.

Her restaurant reminds me of an eco-friendly, green home that sells for $2 million. It's great that the design accomplishes what it does...but how many people can afford to purchase a $2 million home?

Cost is a real issue for most people. It really should be taken seriously. If not, then the effort -- whether in respect to food or homes -- is going to be a boutique industry, irrelevant to most people for the simple reason that they can't afford it.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

I had the pleasure of being introduced to Alice Waters when she ate in the restaurant I was working. She was very warm and appreciative of the food and menu. I enjoyed her biography and feel the need to point out that Chez Pannisse is not a corporation focused on the bottom line and making profits. As it was represented in the book, the larger focus of the restaurant is to provide good jobs, insurance for employees, and funding to programs the shareholders believe in. This is Utopian, but that is a good thing.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

CJ McD,

Do you realize how many people live in poverty? I'm not talking about the US, that's a very small part of the picture - I'm referring to people who make less than $1.25/day. At least one in six people in the world fit that criteria. Of those people, the overwhelming majority are severely undernourished. Millions of children starve to death every year. Do you seriously believe that they can afford to spend more money on food? What's your solution for parts of the world with large populations and very little arable land? We're all aware that this isn't an all-or-nothing philosophy; growing vegetables at home is a good thing if you can do it, and buying foodstuffs (notably fruits and certain vegetables) from local farms at the peak of freshness is an enjoyable luxury, but the ideas you espouse as "world-saving" can't really be applied to most of the planet we live on.

From Serious Eats

Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

"If her restaurant is an expression of her ideals, then those ideals... will be seen by few people, for the simple fact that few people can afford to eat there.
To me that seems odd (but maybe that's just me)...
I mean, there are many restaurants that charge more than the majority of people can afford to pay for a meal ... you might think it would be different for a restaurant espousing her ideals, but clearly it's not.
I don't know if anyone else finds that to be surprising, but I do."
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I would find it suprising too, if it were all she does. But it's not.

From the ChezPanisse website:

"...she created the Chez Panisse Foundation to help underwrite cultural and educational programs such as the one at the Edible Schoolyard that demonstrate the transformative power of growing, cooking, and sharing food.
Among Alice's many board affiliations, she is the Founder and Director of the Chez Panisse Foundation, an International Governor of Slow Food, a Visiting Dean at the French Culinary Institute, an Honorary Trustee of the American Center for Food, Wine and the Arts in Napa, and Board Member of the San Francisco Ferry Plaza Farmers Market.

Alice is author and co-author of eight books, including Chez Panisse Vegetables, Chez Panisse Cafe Cookbook, Fanny at Chez Panisse, a storybook and cookbook for children, and most recently, the encyclopedic Chez Panisse Fruit. Chez Panisse restaurant was named Best Restaurant in America by Gourmet magazine in 2001. Alice has received numerous awards, including the Bon Appetit magazine's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2000 and the James Beard Humanitarian Award in 1997...."

As with any movement, you don't just talk about it, magically wave a wand and *poof*, it's done. I think you are either missing the message or think she has hurculean abilities.

She is a voice, a leader of a movement. It's up to the rest of "us", the people, the buyer's market to make it happen by our choices, actions and purchases.


From Serious Eats

Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

first to say this no one who is irrelevant could cause this much of a stir
i know not much about her but her food is wonderful
she is charged as a radical and a utopian even if true
the world needs conservatives,revolutionaries,radicals and utoponists
even if you/we don't agree because we are one of the above types we feed each others minds (food for thought ) most good things in the world have come from cross actions from the above groups but ALL bad thinks have come from just listen to one group

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

@grumpyglutton: thanks for your comments on subsidized agriculture. I live in the heartland where corn and soy are king, and not even all people here realize that the reason the corn and wheat products are so cheap is because of the subsidies and how that plays into the overall food market economy.

One more thing to add to that, my understanding is also that for farmers who take subsidies also cannot grow any other crop on that field. For example, a crop might have the potential to be harvested in July, leaving time for another late summer crop (different food) to be grown, but in order to keep those subsidies, the land can only be used for the subsidized crop. A second harvest of something else renders their agreement void. Someone correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption.

I also don't know about the rest of yall, but the CSA's around here are full with long waiting lists. My family is caught between that rock and a hard place. Sure, I'd love to eat local and we do shop at the farmer's market a couple of times a month. However, fresh vegetables are only available fresh for a short amount of the year up here. Not to mention that in order to balance our desire to eat healthily and frugally, we go for what is inexpensive at the store (i.e. the greenbeans for 99cents this week, the napa cabbage for 89cents/lb next week).

I can appreciate the grandiose vision that Alice Waters has and kudos to her for being able to live that lifestyle. However, if she truly wants it to be universal and not just something that is available to the elites, talk about how to make it accessible to all is necessary.

Too many people are/have grown up not even knowing how to cook something that comes out of a box! My mother and I learned to cook together. We need to start with baby steps. Capture the gems that are universal (such as learning how to grow foods in pots or in backyards or cook and enjoy foods that aren't "typical" and are less expensive) and ignore the rest for now.

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Why The Hate For Alice Waters?

If her restaurant is an expression of her ideals, then those ideals (as expressed through the restaurant) will be seen by few people, for the simple fact that few people can afford to eat there.

To me that seems odd (but maybe that's just me)...

I mean, there are many restaurants that charge more than the majority of people can afford to pay for a meal (even on a special occasion); you might think it would be different for a restaurant espousing her ideals, but clearly it's not.

I don't know if anyone else finds that to be surprising, but I do.

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