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Nunzio's, a Classic Slice on Staten Island
I have a friend who grew up on SI and he swears by this place. Always been wanting to check it out.
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
I do want to be alone with the Pistacchio e Salsiccia pie, no question :)
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
Neapolitan-style places have a lot going for them for sure @PG, but becoming ubiquitous isn't it. It seems less special. These guys will undoubtedly do great with all the resources they have. I don't think I am the only one feeling some Neapolitan pizza fatigue -- in spite of the extraordinary technique and artistry some of these places employ. The provenance here is incredible. I know when I check it out I may very well be pretty blown away. I guess it is kind of a victory lap for Roberto and Antonio -- they def have made it. Ultimately I really wish them great success as I admire what they are doing on quite a few levels. It will be interesting to see how many similar places NYC can support or if others will see their businesses suffer some. How many more WFO places will we see? Do you think it is possible for there to be too many? Is such a thing possible? I suppose if we lose some places that aren't quite as special as a result of Don Antonio's likely success that that will be an exchange worth making. Maybe there is so much demand that we will see even more. I just don't want to see so many that they feel almost as common as Starbucks.
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LoDuca Pizza: A Slice Joint Gem in the Heart of Brooklyn
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The Food Lab: The Road To Better Risotto
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Nunzio's, a Classic Slice on Staten Island
I have a friend who grew up on SI and he swears by this place. Always been wanting to check it out.
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
I do want to be alone with the Pistacchio e Salsiccia pie, no question :)
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
Neapolitan-style places have a lot going for them for sure @PG, but becoming ubiquitous isn't it. It seems less special. These guys will undoubtedly do great with all the resources they have. I don't think I am the only one feeling some Neapolitan pizza fatigue -- in spite of the extraordinary technique and artistry some of these places employ. The provenance here is incredible. I know when I check it out I may very well be pretty blown away. I guess it is kind of a victory lap for Roberto and Antonio -- they def have made it. Ultimately I really wish them great success as I admire what they are doing on quite a few levels. It will be interesting to see how many similar places NYC can support or if others will see their businesses suffer some. How many more WFO places will we see? Do you think it is possible for there to be too many? Is such a thing possible? I suppose if we lose some places that aren't quite as special as a result of Don Antonio's likely success that that will be an exchange worth making. Maybe there is so much demand that we will see even more. I just don't want to see so many that they feel almost as common as Starbucks.
Giuseppina's: Is it Lucali East?
Beyond how sexy Lucali (and the toppings and sauce are indeed tasty) is I just can't get on board with it or this place. If it weren't for the high protein flour that is used, the dough would never be able to be stretched as it is in the pick above — the shot of the undercrust shows that Chris has the stretching technique of angry teenager. That and end the rim crust at both of these places is basically inedible (soo dry). For me crust is more than 50% of a pizza and this dough ain't handled with enough love or skill, IMO.
The Vegan Experience Day 25: Can Vegans Still Enjoy Pizza?
Just like a marinara pie there are so many things that happen to be vegan and are great just as they are (a point Kenji has been making quite a bit in these posts). It is so unfortunate that if you were to call it a "vegan marinara pizza" that many would scoff at it. Hard to take people this ignorant seriously, but the truth is that some of the people that behave this way are far from ignorant in other regards. It is kinda curious really.
That said, I think veganism gets a bad rap primarily because of the holier-than-thou attitude of some vegans, not because there is anything wrong with the food (beyond the fake meat/cheese stuff). Sometimes even vegans need to realize they should accommodate others in certain situations and not the other way around.
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
@Pizza Lawyer: The cornicione does indeed look taller than most -- Motorino-inspired perhaps or maybe it was gonna be this way anyway. How puffy the pizza rim is (depending on if/how it is retarded) could vary at diff times of day or if they have to make fresh dough to keep up with demand. Be interesting to see more pics as they settle into their groove here.
My Pie Monday: Frankenpizza, Sfincillian, Salmon, and Much More!
@atmast: Thanks for following up and the compliments on my Caputo pies :). High heat really is the key to cat spots it seems and there is no way to fake it. At home, I have a gas bottom drawer broiler oven, which never seems to achieve the cosmetics that an electric oven does. I wonder what I could do to fake it out to get it to run hotter. At the same time, I have such a tiny kitchen (even by NY standards -- just the layout of my apt. -- all the rest of the rooms are quite big) I am somewhat worried about blowback from getting it super hot.
As far as the lack of malt in Caputo, no reason you can't add a little bit (or honey) to it to "help" make up the 200 degree diff from a WFO. With a WFO there is no need for it, but with a home oven I see no foul in augmenting the flour a teeny, tiny bit (2%'ish). To me it is less a cheat than it is just working within the constraints. As far as a domestic flour than has malt but is otherwise very similar to Caputo, I can't recommend KA Organic AP enough -- fantastic taste, right protein level and very silky. A bit pricey though. Wishing you much continued success :)!
My Pie Monday: Frankenpizza, Sfincillian, Salmon, and Much More!
@atmast: Nice cat spots. What kind of oven and setup are using? Does the KA SL spot better than others you have tried? What do you find the key for that spotted look? The combo of high gluten with high hydration gave you a really nice cornicione. Well done!
@Norma: Do you recally my Talk post on 00/Caputo? I promise you I have made very good pizza with pure Caputo (or with some KA AP added) in a deck oven much like yours. In a deck oven, the Caputo benefits from a little oil and a little sugar (for browning and tenderness). You REALLY don't need all the rest of the stuff you added (I am 100% certain) -- really you don't. I know it was just an experiment but...
@Craig: Liking the toppings combo. Sound delicious.
@all: Rockin' as usual :)!
Pizza Preview: Don Antonio in Midtown Manhattan
I wonder if Antonio enjoyed his time acting on Galactica ;) Love the popped collar! I wonder if Izod makes their shirts...nah, not Eyetalian enough ;)
Feels like this is the crest of the Neapolitan wave. I hope so. Nothing wrong with the pizza per se, but it is kinda antique. Be great to see more places like/of the quality of "Best Pizza", though for investors a slice joint doesn't have the sex appeal of an expensive, Manhattan loc, big, high overhead place like Don Antonio.
Do we really need another Neapolitan place serving pizza that is nearly identical to all the other good Neapolitan places? Can you imagine if you could ONLY drink beer that met the German purity standards? Boring. Thankfully we do indeed have some choice in NYC.
Anywho...I know this opening needed to get covered and the pizza is no doubt good. Just saying be nice to see some other styles get some more momentum. I suppose square pies are gaining some, so that is good.
Astoria, Queens: Via Trenta Osteria & Wine Bar
Crust looks "Delfina'ish" ( http://slice.seriouseats.com/images/20090102-delfina-marg.jpg ) with a bit heavier hand on the toppings. Nice that these guys are making better use of the Woodstone. Looks like another solid joint in Queens.
Cook the Book: Nancy Silverton's Pizza Dough
The book says to divide the dough into 7 oz / 198 g balls — 12 inches is awfully wide for a dough that small, especially considering the tall cornicione. I would go 10 inches with a roughly 200 g dough. But whaddoIknow?! ;)
Portland, Oregon: Oven & Shaker
Totally looks up my alley in so many ways. If I was nearer it I would be all over it in a heartbeat. Def check it out if in the area. Looks really delicious.
Video: Why Di Fara Costs $5 a Slice
Well, you know, Dom is running his oven at 900 degrees after all ;)
Sourdough question
In summary:
Some acid = good
Too much acid = bad
And def don't take the brown stuff ;)
Scott's Pizza Chronicles: Fried Pizza
Thanks @Craig! Appreciated. Had to give it a whirl. Some powdered sugar would totally work with the bones, no question.
Sourdough question
FWIW, Chau Tran alludes to what I was talking about (in Pizzablogger's great interview ;):
http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2011/03/pizza-obsessives-chau-tran-the-balanced-approach-to-pizza-making.html
"I now understand that there is definitely a difference in using a young versus mature leaven. They definitely give different results as far as flavor and structure because of the amount of [initial] acids and those developed from fermentation. If I had to guess, I was likely using an older, more mature starter at the time."
But yeah, the dough just could have been overblown sourdough or not. Still what I said I meant and it come from first hand experience and the experience of people that know more and make better pizza than I. That said everyone knows that sourdough can indeed weaken gluten some time after it has strengthened it.
:)
Scott's Pizza Chronicles: Fried Pizza
Oh and I don't care what Sofia is making — she's got my attention :)!
Scott's Pizza Chronicles: Fried Pizza
Beyond the hot oil, this style could not be easier.
This is stab of mine from some weeks ago:
https://twitter.com/#!/JohnnyDoubleU/status/164446266632306688/photo/1/large
Should have had the oil at 400 not 375 and used thicker cheese (was thin Grande pre-sliced fresh mootz), but nonetheless it was still quite delicious.
As a change of pace, this is a great style :)!
Raw garlic - who's in?
I def will eat it. Something about it just feels healthy. That said, I much prefer it lightly pickled which takes a little bit of the bite and heat out.
Video: The Craigie On Main Burger
@tcal4404: You knew what I meant ;). I saw that it was a CVap but thought that was just a proprietary, fancy pants sous-vide. It sort of is in some ways but is does use vapor apparently. Now I know they aren't completely interchangeable :). Thanks guys!
@Kenji: Sounds like a good approach, but I wonder if you might want to take another bite :)! FWIW, my Dad is actually vegan (in his early seventies and looks 15 years younger) and has been for 8 years or so. There is no question in my mind that he is extending his life and improving its quality. I wonder if you stick to the mostly vegan thing for a few years if you will eventually come to find red meat an anathema or if the craving will still remain. My sister who has been vegan for over 10 years is def repulsed by any kind of meat. Like my Dad, she really couldn't be or look healthier. She also has no problem maintaining a consistent healthy weight.
Anyhow I think what you are doing is great and the right way to go for so many reasons. Good luck keeping it up :)!
Sourdough question
Oh and the bulk fermentation (with a very active, well fed starter) should be probably be somewhere between 12 - 24 hours give or take, depending on the temp, starter %, how truly "active" your starter is) and other environmental variables. Once you get this down you can experiment with using even less starter (2% or less) or inactive starter to prolong the bulk fermentation. You could cold retard the dough as well. Unless your starter really is not that active, 48 hours at room temp is waaaay too long.
As far as gauging the "activeness" of your starter, it is ready when it just begins to start collapsing (not rising anymore) and is has lot of bubbles in it.
Video: The Craigie On Main Burger
I am not often blown away by how a burger is made but the methods employed in this one seem so spot on to make a truly spectacular burger. Pretty friggen brilliant! The loose packing is to me, usually a hallmark of a place that really knows what it is doing, let a alone the sous vide to ensure a perfect medium-rare and a super hot griddle to get a crust. This thing is so well thought out!
@Kenji: Is this something that with your new eating habits you would still indulge in or do you think you could refrain? If I am near this place I am simply gonna have to go. It is the best looking burger I may have ever seen, period.
BTW, the OxCart Tavern in Ditmas is making quite a good burger — not in this league but still quite good. House grind (and housemade ketchup with chipotles in it) on a very similar bun to this one. It is def worth you guys checking out, no question (B/Q to Newkirk, 25 (legit) minutes from Canal).
@redfish: Like I was just saying to Kenji, there is a place near me that is using a very similar (looking bun). At first I thought it was too tall as well but these kinds of buns are very tender and sort of squish down as you bite and then spring back a little. I have been converted. If the bun was less tender it would def be too tall.
Sourdough question
@BiereBeer: One of the reasons I have considered writing about sourdough use (I just don't really like blogging — my heart is not in it — so I haven't done it) is the problem you are encountering. It pretty much always comes up but it is not often discussed (I think because many that write a recipe or two for sourdough still have very limited overall experience with it).
Very often the sourdough mother becomes quite acidic and there is a process called "washing" which is basically aggressive feeding (with a large discard). This will dial down the overall acid level.
The simplest way to overcome the acid issue (weakening gluten) is to use a little mature starter to make a young/fresh leaven each time you make dough. A simple way to accomplish this with a straight dough is to use somewhere between 2-6% starter added to your dough formula's water. A larger percentage of starter will increase the amount of acid from the get go so if you do want to use a larger preferment make sure it is started with a small amount of mature starter, creating a viable yet young preferment to add to your dough.
That said, especially if you store your starter in the fridge in between uses, it will be more acidic overtime and washing it something that should be done periodically anyway.
Hope that helps :)!
The Vegan Experience, Day 6: Calorie Control
Sometimes I wonder if veganism isn't at least partially about feeling superior to those who aren't. #archetypes
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John Wozniak answered "No, I'm a self-made pizzamaker" to Have you ever taken a pizzamaking class?
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John Wozniak answered "Daniel Boulud" to Which Celebrity Chef Would You Most Like To Meet?
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John Wozniak got 60% correct on General Knowledge (aka No Specific Theme Today)
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About John Wozniak
Website: http://johnwozniak.com
Location: Ditmas Park, Brooklyn
About: I am serious food lover and cook
Favorite foods: Shake Shack custard, Totonno's Coney Island sausage pie (made by Lawrence C. or the guy with the hat :), The burger and arctic char at The Farm on Adderley
Last bite on earth: Hmm...

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