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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

When i did my burger eating tour of Ohio I took the opportunity to eat breakfast at a Steak N Shake. That meal was good and some day I hope to try a burger there as well.

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Harry's at Water Taxi Beach Wins Borough Burger Battle

Adam,

Cheese is an option (AM only) at WTB.

George is always very clear he isn't a chef. However, he has a clear idea of what he wants in a burger.

When the Motz burger was designed we had the cooking method and Sauce & Salt from Schnack. But basically I gave George veto power over everything.. for example I wanted to do a 1/4 # burger and it turns out he did as well, but if he had wanted something bigger or smaller we would have done that..

I had never ground meat before, and that is where George provided a lot of help; the grinding process is/was all his design.

Without George the Motz burger would not have been possible as he is 100% correct when he says he designed it to suit his own tastes.

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Saturday's Burger Bash

A few quick comments on the reporting. The burgers are not scooped with an ice cream scoop although they certainly look like one; they are scooped with a "Food service" or "food portion scoop;" The scoop size we use is for a 1/4 pound. You could use that scoop for egg salad, burger meat or ice cream, if you really wanted to scoop /dip ice cream you'd want something more purpose built.

I would have liked thinner onions for the onion burger; but that would meant some machine to do that. Ours were sliced by hand by Kevin.

The balls once on the grill are cooked for 30 seconds, just long enough to put a small crust on the bottom, so when you flip and smash it, the raw meat doesn't stick. Then it's cooked for a few minutes and flipped once more. It's smashed once and flipped twice; never more and never less.

The pimento cheese was really fun to make, but also a bit of wide shot side there isn't some law on the books some where that says exactly what it should go into it.

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From A Hamburger Today

Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

When i did my burger eating tour of Ohio I took the opportunity to eat breakfast at a Steak N Shake. That meal was good and some day I hope to try a burger there as well.

From A Hamburger Today

Harry's at Water Taxi Beach Wins Borough Burger Battle

Adam,

Cheese is an option (AM only) at WTB.

George is always very clear he isn't a chef. However, he has a clear idea of what he wants in a burger.

When the Motz burger was designed we had the cooking method and Sauce & Salt from Schnack. But basically I gave George veto power over everything.. for example I wanted to do a 1/4 # burger and it turns out he did as well, but if he had wanted something bigger or smaller we would have done that..

I had never ground meat before, and that is where George provided a lot of help; the grinding process is/was all his design.

Without George the Motz burger would not have been possible as he is 100% correct when he says he designed it to suit his own tastes.

From A Hamburger Today

Saturday's Burger Bash

A few quick comments on the reporting. The burgers are not scooped with an ice cream scoop although they certainly look like one; they are scooped with a "Food service" or "food portion scoop;" The scoop size we use is for a 1/4 pound. You could use that scoop for egg salad, burger meat or ice cream, if you really wanted to scoop /dip ice cream you'd want something more purpose built.

I would have liked thinner onions for the onion burger; but that would meant some machine to do that. Ours were sliced by hand by Kevin.

The balls once on the grill are cooked for 30 seconds, just long enough to put a small crust on the bottom, so when you flip and smash it, the raw meat doesn't stick. Then it's cooked for a few minutes and flipped once more. It's smashed once and flipped twice; never more and never less.

The pimento cheese was really fun to make, but also a bit of wide shot side there isn't some law on the books some where that says exactly what it should go into it.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Looking at their balance sheet shows a lot. SnS has 60.3 million dollars in current assest but they have but they have 76.3 million in current liabilities. In todays economic climate, I just don't see any bank lending 16 million dollars to SnS. Hence they will have to start shutting down many of their stores and selling what they can. On there sales, SnS can expect to get a small percentage of their property plant and equipment booked amount. Hence the future does not look bright for steak and shake. Whether they will be able to reinvent themselves ala Hardees is unknown. But clearly this is not a company that I would be investing in. And for that matter I will not be eating there either as there are many superior places that actually know how to make a great hamburger and a rich thick and creamy milk shake

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Steak 'n Shake is definitely in my top 3 burger chains. Every time I head west into Pittsburgh, I make sure to make at least one stop there (usually the midnight snack). The burgers are excellent, the shakes are awesome, and unlike yabooo, I've always have good service. I thought the fries were the most disappointing part (go for the chili instead), and I have noticed the portions shrinking as well. Bring back the goods, SnS! And continue eastward and give Five Guys a run for their money!

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Yahoo - maybe you had a bad visit, but their shakes usually are pretty good. Also, they've been going strong for 70+ years so I don't think they'll be out of business soon.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Let's get serious here. They don't have steaks and their shakes are terrible. The service sucks and they will likely be out of business in a couple of years. I'm sorry but after moving to the midwest and hearing so much about S & S, I have constantly been disappointed with them although I must admit that they have good fries

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I don't consider S & S to be a "fast food" place. Any place that serves on china with metal utensils is not a fast food place to me. Anyhow - they do have good burgers, and as someone mentioned above - they are getting smaller. I usually go for the triple cheese with a salad and fries, and a wonderful fountain cherry coke.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I have a love hate with SnS, the burgers are good but the service is always terrible and they rarely get my order right. The most despicable act is the fact that they have started downsizing their food. They have reduced the amount of beef in each patty and to hide this they downsized their buns. They also have reduced the portion size of their chili and their sides. I know times are tight but I really think they could cut costs elsewhere instead of reducing the amount of food you get.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Steak'n'Shake is truly an institution. I've converted many non-midwesterners to believers in its deliciousness (not to mention that said deliciousness is available 24 hours!). for me, the best dishes are the Patty/Chicken/Frisco Melt & the Chili Mac Supreme. I'm not a huge fans of the fries on their own, but the cheese fries (made with only the fakest liquid cheese sauce) are amazing with ketchup. if I ever move out of the heartland I'm not sure what I'll do with myself.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Its ok,...I heard about it before I moved to the Kansas area and now had it a couple times. I do feel like you have to order a double to really get the value out of eating one because of the "smashed" patties. BUT it had everything messy known to man on it along with melted cheese so it held my interest! lol

I unfortunately was not a fan of the ULTRA thin shoestring fries (not to mention they were SUPER greasy!).

Overall, I'd eat it once a year,...

BACK TO YOU ROGER!!

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I never miss an opportunity to go thee when I am visiting my in-laws in Florida. The shakes and shoe string fries are awesome . The burgers are OK nothing spectacular.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I don't really think of it as fast food, takes a bit to get your order.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I like S&S's smashed patties and their frisco melt is always good. I also like that they offer a variey of sides as oppsed to just fries. The onion rings are a must.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

They're ok when all the other (burger) restaurants are closed; otherwise, we would go elsewhere. I like that it appears clean, since their motif has a lot of white. Although it's easy when you only have 0 to 1 other customer in the restaurant. It's not as popular as one would expect where I live, but they must make enough money since we have access to 3 Steak N Shakes w/in 15 minutes of our place, the closest being 5 min away. I like their shakes and fries more than their burgers.

The last time we went to one ~5 years ago, we had a bad experience where we stood at the door for 5 minutes in an empty restaurant with 2 employees at the counter talking to each other paying no attention to us. As soon as another couple walked in behind us, they got seated immediately while we were still standing at the door. We haven't stepped foot in one since.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I compare Steak and Shake to a Friendlys but with better burgers. Being a NYer it was a nice stop on the way to my parents house in daytona coming from Disney.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

I really like the food although, I don't visit Steak and Shake often because the service has never been good for me.

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Roger Ebert on His Love for Steak 'n Shake

Yes. With the exception of In-N-Out, I think that it is the best "fast food" burger in America. The fries, chili and shakes are also excellent. Grab one if you are in their part of the country.

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Harry's at Water Taxi Beach Wins Borough Burger Battle

Oh yes, and next we'll need to smash some onions into that burger for the real KC treat from Town Topic...

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Harry's at Water Taxi Beach Wins Borough Burger Battle

Harry: Thanks for the reminder. The Motz Burger with cheese is on my very short list of favorite burgers in NYC. I think you and George have really captured the style of burger I grew up with in the KC area.

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