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hdolsa

  • Location: New York, NY

Food Ignorance Frustration

Only speaking about the pho, not the food ignorance/frustration : Having gone to a private, well-funded university, I have to say your school is probably one of the lucky ones if you have burgers made with local meat! Cherish the fact that your school seems to care about quality, and probably made the pho the best way they could in an environment where mass production is necessary to feed to student populace. My Ivy for sure used those pre-made frozen Sysco patties for our burgers (and used Sysco/Cisco? for just about most of the bulk goods at the dining hall!), but it was good enough since that was one of the most popular stations at the dining hall. And who knows, maybe the people who decided to put the pho on the menu only ever had pho like you described? I wouldn't necessarily chalk that up to ignorance, even if those people DID know what real pho tasted like...real pho takes a long to make, and requires a lot of ingredients not found at bulk supply stores (I doubt Sysco sells all of that stuff). University dining halls just want to make sure their students eat something, so it could also be possible that it's called pho so some student will be intrigued and eat something that is at the very least good for you instead of a bowl full of frozen yogurt and cookies (guilty as charged, and I loved it). I really think half-hearted effort is more than most colleges and universities put into the dining hall food, so at least that's pretty cool.

Best NYC Supermarket

Salasis14 - They probably do!! They live close to the Broadway N/Q station. I lived in Astoria my whole life until college. And while in college, I would go home just to pick up groceries or random food stuffs. Even though I still go back at least once a week, it's not enough. I love that neighborhood!! Can't be beat.

Food Ignorance Frustration

In regards to college eats frustration...I think getting fake pho is pretty cool, because at least your school is trying to introduce people to pho! I went to a well-to-do Ivy and when we had Chinese, Indian, West Indies themed food at the dining hall, most of the food didn't look or taste like its namesake...but they tried! It made me want to seek out authentic representations of Carribean food for example, since I'd never really had food from that area before. And it's delicious! So I have to say at least the dining hall made me interested in the cuisine even though their interpretation was wonky. And... as a self-proclaimed worldly eater, I did not learn how to pronounce pho or a lot of other foods I love to eat until Vietnamese and Thai friends would correct me! I'd just avoid the pho if it makes you so annoyed.

Since I skew towards "angry, rageful" person, I can't afford to be angry about food ignorance, so I reserve my anger for down right awful, no redeeming quality, waste of stomach space foods like well done steaks. I think there's a time and place for not authentic food; American Chinese interpretations of classic Chinese food is so butchered, but it's SO good when the craving hits!

Best NYC Supermarket

If you're missing being able to buy everything from one grocery store, then I don't have much of a substitute unfortunately. However, I do think NYC has some of the best grocery shopping (from my experience at least), if you can go to various shops. My parents and I like to get our weekly/bi-weekly groceries from Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and Fairway. I get last minute cooking items, missing pantry items, or just random spur of the moment purchases from Bravo, C-Town and Trade Fair when I visit my parents in Queens since they live really close by those three grocery stores. My parents go to fish markets and the butcher for meat, so I pick up my proteins from them, or from Whole Foods. Once every two-three months, my parents and I pick up spices, and various ethnic goods from Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian markets in the city (Serious Eats has amazing market guides that should help you on that front). I try to shop at the Farmer's Market every Saturday at Union Square, though the selection gets awesome between Spring and Mid Fall so that's when I purchase most perishables from the Farmer's Market instead of from an actual grocery store.

I'm not sure what you are missing from the California grocery stores other than being able to buy everything in once place if I'm reading your post correctly, but if you can be more specific, I'm sure the community can help. I think that there is more variety, and amazing products in NYC, though not necessarily from just one grocery store if your purchases are very varied.

Gluten Contamination Question

Thanks so much everyone! For clarification - it's an elimination diet for gluten sensitivity. My doctors don't think I am, since I don't have intestinal issues BUT they also can't seem to agree on what is causing my tests to be off, including my inflammation test results, so I was asked if I would be willing to go gluten free to see if my other issues decrease in severity. Going gluten free wasn't necessarily something I needed to do, but given how nothing my many doctors and specialists have told me to do has worked, I figured I have nothing to lose but potentially a lot to gain if this elimination diet provides some information for my doctors.

Yes, I live in NYC, which makes it easier to go gluten free when grocery shopping, or choosing a place to eat with friends or on a casual basis. But it's so hard to stay away from my favorite places (bakeries of all kinds, I miss eating bread with abandon from Silver Moon Bakery so much), and it's hard when I have to go to restaurants for work meetings since I don't feel comfortable yet asking the waiter or waitress about gluten friendly options in front of bosses and clients.

Greetings from a Retired Butcher!

Spam or not, I thought that site was really informational and interesting! All I really know about meat is "beef, chicken, pork, game meat, etc taste good," and there have been many times when I've bought the wrong cut of meat so my meal comes out wrong.

Where to Eat Near Columbia University

I graduated before Joe's opened in the Northwest Corner building, so I went to Oren's all the time. I also have fond (drunk) memories from Tom's Diner, even if the food sucked most of the time - the chicken fingers at 3am were amazing. Not as great as Absolute, but Nussbaum had a solid bagel when I didn't want to "trek" all the way to 108th from the dorms. The cheese samples, as well as the soup and dip samples, at Westside easily made for an impromptu but delicious meal. Their salad bar was awesome too. And how could you forget Milano!!? Sandwich and salad king! I feel like a lot of the places on this list are for when parents are in town...totally don't know many classmates who ventured to the places on your list that often if at all but still a solid list. I miss Columbia!!

Is it Offal etiquette to misrepresent your dish?

I personally do this often, but with my good friends. I can see how not disclosing what the dish is actually made of would be concerning to most people, even good friends, but so far so good for me. I eat everything, but some of my friends aren't too keen on eating gizzards, or sweet breads. However, when I've made liver, hearts, gizzards, etc for my good friends,I only disclose the information after they've eaten it. They've all said "oh wow! I wouldn't have eaten it other wise. Tastes really good!" It really does help that they love to eat though. If I were cooking for a crowd, I probably would venture away from offal though to be honest I made deep fried chicken gizzards this past weekend for my dinner party and everyone loved them. I advertised them as "fried chicken bits" haha.

I don't think this is "tricking someone into eating it" - I think it's more a play on words, or a euphemism. Beef is the name of the meat from cows, and the tongue is just that : meat from cows. So saying "this is beef with sauce" is not trickery, it's just the lowest common denominator way of saying what the dish is.

In short though, I wouldn't even consider serving offal to unadventurous eaters, or people who can't take risks. In fact, I probably wouldn't serve much of anything except pasta from a box if unadventurous eaters came over for dinner (thankfully I don't know any people like that, phew!)

What is a Good First Alcholic Drink?

Classy, very nice! My 21st was a blur. One of my favorite cocktails to make at home is what I call a riff on a gin and tonic - good gin (tanqueray and no. 3 gin are my staple gins), good tonic water (I love fever tree tonic water), some st. germain OR domaine de canton (not both! at least when I tried it, it tasted pretty awful) topped off with some champs. Doesn't tasty boozy at all, though it does pack a major punch.

Pok Pok Wing Has Reopened as Pok Pok Phat Thai

@simon - Too true. Though I am a little "eww'd" when I see a grade lower than a B, the reality is there are a lot of worth while places with low grades, and a lot of horrible places with high grades. Having lived in NYC for over 24 years now, I have to say there's no reason to eat out at all if these grades give you the creeps because even with a good grade, there is almost definitely sweat in your food, amongst other things most likely! Chances are pretty high that the places with B and higher grades just cleaned up as quickly as possible during the inspection to get that grade, but are dirty the rest of the time. To each their own though!

BUT on the topic of Pok Pok Phat Thai - I tried the pad thai a few days ago, and found it a little bland to be honest. I already miss Pok Pok Wing!

A Very Special Market Scene: Tomato Madness!

Although I favor the Autumn and Winter seasons temperature/clothing wise, I just LOVE Summer for the produce (namely, for the tomatoes!!)!! I bought about 3 pounds of tomatoes from the USQ farmer's market this past Saturday, and they're already gone; I can't wait until tomorrow to buy more. Really, the best time of the year in NYC!!! This tomato post is making me drool at work, haha.

Good place for a women to go alone for lunch ?

I've eaten at all these places before, at the bar area, without needing to order an alcoholic beverage so I think you'll be fine. I was definitely never carded for sitting down and just wanting to eat lunch/dinner, if that's the concern.

TV chef's. How have they inspired you?

@CandiRisk - I watched PBS cooking shows along with Sesame Street too!

I can't remember all of what I watched while growing up in the 90's and early 2000's except for Martin Yan, Julia Child, Lidia Bastianach, Rick Bayless, Jacques Pepin and Jacques Torres (does anyone remember his chocolate show?! LOVED it.) but I do remember falling in love with food and cooking because of the PBS shows. I owe almost all my love for cooking to these chefs/shows (and my parents). In fact, because of all of them, I want to one day become a restaurateur or business partner to a chef, because my love for food and cooking is so immense!

Good place for a women to go alone for lunch ?

I'm a woman who eats alone for lunch and dinner fairly often, and I find NYC a very welcoming city to eat alone at. I'm assuming you want a sit down sort of place, so it at the bar area; you can chat up the bartenders, or you can eat/drink in peace. I frequent Momofuku Noodle Bar and Ssam Bar, the bar or the juice bar area of ABC Kitchen, and Terroir when I eat alone. I've also eaten alone at Ippudo and Otto's bar area a few times, and those were enjoyable and inexpensive. My absolute favorite solo lunch spot is Sushi Yasuda - the lunch special for the quality and price is amazing, and I always feel so tranquil and in peace when I go there. I go there especially when I want alone/thinking time from work and life.

Hope you get out of your rut :(

Cooking for myself with a college student budget?

Oh and also when I need to refill my freezer with some quick food stuffs, but don't have much time, I'll buy premade pie doughs and puff pastry (I get mine from Trader Joe's) to make meal planning easier. I like to keep a large (think Costco size large) box of salad greens in the fridge, as well as a container of feta (or any cheese), tupperwares of cut up salad veg/fruit, chickpeas/beans and other easy to prepare produce for the week to round out meals (and to make my meals less brown colored haha).

Cooking for myself with a college student budget?

Ken G has a lot of great ideas. For meal planning, I'd start by making a list of things I already like to eat, just to make everything easier. If you have roommates and they don't mind you using a fair portion of the freezer, I would suggest freezing portions of recipes you make so that you'll have easy access to nearly cooked food. Things I always keep in my freezer for times when I don't have time to cook and have no dinner plans include various types of pesto, bulk fish fillets/chicken breasts in frozen in individual portions, individual soup portions (I freeze lentil soup and it's South Asian cousin haleem, and chicken broth), mini pot pies (I bake mine in jumbo muffin tins), all sorts of sweet and savory "hand pies" (like turnovers, empanadas, stuffed buns), and dumplings (I'll buy a few packs of potsticker wrappers, and make enough filling for all the wrappers. Then freeze them on a baking sheet for a little while, and then throw them into a freezer bag).

The recipe ideas I listed tend to be inexpensive, especially if you buy meat in bulk, and if you decide to make dough from scratch if you have time for that on the weekends. For the fish fillets/chicken, I defrost on in the fridge the morning before I go to work, and after work, I usually put salt, pepper, salsa and feta on the fish, put it in the oven for 15-25 minutes or so at 350 degrees, or until the protein is cooked through.

Roommate/College Food Stories

Haha these are great. I was living in an upperclassmen dorm my last two years of college, in a high rise on the UWS...I would estimate that a good few hundred students lived there. I remember a fire alarm going off, and spoke spewing out of a flat down the hall from me, with some girl shrieking about her pie juices were falling onto the bottom of the oven. She's a really good cook, so I'm guessing she completely forgot about putting her pie on a sheet pan. Getting out of this building when the fire alarm is going off is insane, since its got 20 floors but once the alarm went off she started shrieking again and told her friends "Leave the flat door open,turn off the oven!!!" and she ran down the stairs before anyone else. She totally looked like she was crying and panicking. A few hours and a new batch of smoke coming out of her dorm room later, she started shrieking about how she forgot to clean the bottom of the oven before putting in her chicken to roast! She and her friends were running up and down the hall way and trying to blow the smoke away. She looked like she was going to have another panic attack right then and there. No fire alarm though!

Takeout for a ~20 person party?

I've had good experiences with Dino BBQ and Rack and Soul for that many people. I think it was less than a day or two's notice. Also, Momofuku Ssam Bar allows you to order a Bo Ssam plus fixings to go, if you give them notice. You can also make take out orders from Ssam Bar now, on their website, though I've never used the function. Their spicy rice cakes and sausage.. mmmm!

Enameled Cast Iron: A College Freshman's Dilemma

As a relatively recent college graduate, I would scrounge up what's around the house first, and then wait a few weeks once school starts to figure out if you really need a dutch oven. I LOVE to cook, eat and drink, but nearly everything I brought went unused from freshmen year to senior year, except for a knife, a cutting board, a large pan and a big pot. If you end up really needing a dutch oven or just can't stop thinking of owning a dutch oven, then go for it but I personally would wait a few weeks first to see if I'd utilize it or not.

In my experience, the things I make in a dutch oven take hours, so as a college student, I would've never had time to use even a less expensive one, or even wanted to use all my time cooking as opposed to socializing/studying/sleeping.

My first kitchen purchases after graduating were a 5 quart Le Creuset, and Zwilling J.A. Henckels Damascus Chef's Knife (thank goodness for a good job!) and I bought them when I knew I would actually have the time, space, and mental facilities to use them, and use them well.

NYS Road Trip - Where to go?

@ Erin_in_AR, yankeesgal, abr9er1 and Elizabelle - Thank you for the recommendations! I'm definitely going to look into the wineries around the Finger Lakes, and hopefully I can convince my friends to stop by Ithaca. :) And I hear the butter sculptures are still at the fair. So excited for this trip.

Keep the suggestions coming, please!

Gluten Contamination Question

I was recently advised by my doctor to go gluten-free (and low-carb + high lean protein) for at least a month, though potentially longer due to anemia, auto-immune illness, and inflammation issues. As an avid gluten and carb eater, this was tough to hear. However, the transition has not been as hard as I was imagining.

As someone who dines out frequently during the week, how important is it to stay away from restaurants and food establishments that have gluten free food, but also state that since the gluten free food is prepared in the same kitchen/facility as the rest of the food, those with celiac's should probably not eat there while those with gluten sensitivity should eat there with caution. As someone who is doing a (hopefully not permanent) elimination diet, do you think the gluten free food would be highly contaminated/there would be way too much gluten contact?

Honestly, I don't mind my food contacting gluten if it doesn't affect my elimination diet/future blood work. My doctor told me to use my discretion in those cases, but I keep reading conflicting reports about the impact of contamination. For example, I thought about ordering a bison burger with a gluten free bun from a place in NYC (Bareburger), but the menu states that although they have gluten free meats and products, those with Celiac's shouldn't eat there, and those with gluten sensitivities should use discretion.

Advice/comments/experiences would be greatly appreciated! And please no comments about making my own food, etc because I already have that under control! I cook when dining at home, but have to eat out for work most weekday meals.

Roommate/College Food Stories

Spun off from responses from a different topic - Do you have any roommate food stories, good or bad?

My college roommate experiences are still rather fresh, so I have quite a few food/roommate stories. Sophomore year, I offered to share my mini fridge and tupper ware with my then good friend/roommate. There was a communal kitchen on our floor, so she would sometimes cook, maybe once a week. I would only cook maybe once a month, and only when it was a group pot luck. One week, we decided to cook together and she made this fabulous bean dish. She put the leftovers in the fridge, and week after week went by with her not eating it or disposing of it. I kept reminding her about it, and there came a point when it smelled so rank that I said "hey...I'm going to throw this out." She got so angry, so I just let it go. Literally two months later... IT WAS STILL THERE. I threw out the tupper ware with the molded beans, and she got so upset and angry! After that point, our friendship deteriorated and we haven't talked to each other in five years.

My junior year, I had a friend who kept eating all my food, but I didn't really care too much in the beginning. My passiveness towards the situation really screwed me up, since she eventually started eating whole loaves of bread and jars of peanut butter within few days of me buying the stuff! Ridiculously, she one day said "You ran out of PB and bread, you need to get some more!" and that's when I yelled at her ... I also never spoke to her again.

Maybe it was me!! :( Hope you all have some fun/funny/crazy stories to share!

NYS Road Trip - Where to go?

Very long time reader, first time commenter.

I have lived in NYC my entire life, but have unfortunately never really ventured around NYS, except to visit a few non-NYC colleges during my teens. I'm trying to plan a mini road trip, between NYC and Syracuse (to attend the Great NYS Fair!) before the end of Summer. My friends and I are serious eaters, and would love recommendations for some good eats. We eat any and everything, and cost isn't an issue. Just a lot of good food suggestions (and perhaps recommendations for some good sights/hotels along the way as well if you have any knowledge about that stuff too.)

The only things we have on our agenda as of right now are gorging on fair foods, and eating at the Original Dino BBQ.

Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you! :)

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