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Dear Slice: Any Good Pizza in Rochester?

My fondest memory of pizza was at Proietti’s on Goodman St in Rochester, NY, where my grandfather took my brother and me on Friday nights. You walk into a large ballroom-like hall with wood flows covered in sawdust. Wooden tables were scattered about, and a jukebox played the Ventures, Steppenwolf, and other ‘60s rock. At the end of the room, stretching 50 feet or more was the pizza counter. Equal in size was a menu on the wall with all the pizza sizes (along with small, medium and large steel pans), toppings and prices. Only pizza was sold. Behind the counter were three mustachioed pizza makers, 1 or 2 always tossing and twirling the dough higher and higher. The 2 large Blogetts squeek open and closed, filling the place with a delicious pungent smell enhanced by cigarette smoke. We washed it down with orange pop, or, for my grandpa, Genesee beer. The sauce had a hint of fennel and other spices never matched since then. Recently though I find that if you order from Cam’s an extra thick/extra sauce pie it comes very close.

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Cam's New York Pizzeria; Spencerport, New York

Checker Flag Pizza has huge, awsome $1 NYC style slices. I'm full on $2 worth. Get a whole 8-slice pie for $7.00. Feeds 3-4.

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Dear Slice: Any Good Pizza in Rochester?

My fondest memory of pizza was at Proietti’s on Goodman St in Rochester, NY, where my grandfather took my brother and me on Friday nights. You walk into a large ballroom-like hall with wood flows covered in sawdust. Wooden tables were scattered about, and a jukebox played the Ventures, Steppenwolf, and other ‘60s rock. At the end of the room, stretching 50 feet or more was the pizza counter. Equal in size was a menu on the wall with all the pizza sizes (along with small, medium and large steel pans), toppings and prices. Only pizza was sold. Behind the counter were three mustachioed pizza makers, 1 or 2 always tossing and twirling the dough higher and higher. The 2 large Blogetts squeek open and closed, filling the place with a delicious pungent smell enhanced by cigarette smoke. We washed it down with orange pop, or, for my grandpa, Genesee beer. The sauce had a hint of fennel and other spices never matched since then. Recently though I find that if you order from Cam’s an extra thick/extra sauce pie it comes very close.

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Cam's New York Pizzeria; Spencerport, New York

Checker Flag Pizza has huge, awsome $1 NYC style slices. I'm full on $2 worth. Get a whole 8-slice pie for $7.00. Feeds 3-4.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

This is an awesome page. My comment though is related to the DC jumbo slice. I can confirm that this is the appropriate style for this region as I have spent much time over the years in DC. Their slices at many pizzerias are the size of two average slices. They make a killing off of selling them to the college students. If a 16 inch pie normally has 8 slices, a DC pizza has 4.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I grew up outside of East Liverpool Ohio, I never realized that pizza was made any other way until I moved to college. Bruno's pizza was a friday staple growing up, so much that now when I go home to visit my parents, my mother always picks up a tray. The best part if Ohio River Valley Pizza, is that it tastes just as good the next day out of the fridge! Home pizza in St. Clairsville is VERY good as well. I live in Columbus now, and the pizza just doesn't get to that level, but there is a DiCarlo's off of 256 in Pickerington, although I have not had it.

If anybody passes through Athens Ohio, Goodfella's pizza is a must. They sell by the slice, and it is close to Ohio Valley style, but they use a much thicker sauce. It was perfect after a night uptown at the bars.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I just read comment above...(tomdobb)I didn't eat pizza when i came to Columbus but in Canton, Ohio u will get authentic Italian pizza made by the best owned italian family restaurants.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

Ohio pizza is the best....They actually have some really good pizza places there...The problem that i have is....i'm not there anymore =(....I'm in San antonio,Tx and there is one good pizza place [[Pizzabella]].They have the jumbo thin crust pizza...Its good but nothing like Canton Ohio's Papa Bears Pizza Oven , Wacos Pizza, East of Chicago,Napolians,So many different styles of pizza. And they don't have it in the south =(....

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

There's a mouthwatering style of white pizza which seems to be peculiar to McKees Rocks, PA, just outside Pittsburgh -- I know I've never seen it prepared this way anywhere else and I eat a lot of pie, dude. I believe it originated at Mama Lena's (now Mama Mia's) and has been cloned by former employees at another shop down the street called Doughboys (which is cheaper & maybe even better, IMHO). I've never seen one prepared from start to finish, but here's my best guess as to the general idea: a medium-thickness pizza crust is brushed with olive oil & perhaps garlic or other spices and partially baked, then removed to add a light layer of some kind of white shredded cheese (don't think it's mozz), then baked again until done. The hot pie is then topped with a room-temperature prepared mixture of diced tomatoes, minced garlic, finely chopped onion & basil and olive oil and sprinkled with more shredded cheese. The pie partially melts the additional cheese and warms the topping mixture up to the perfect temperature while preserving the flavor & freshness of the ingredients. On every other white pizza I've had the tomatoes & other ingredients are baked along with the crust which dries them out. This stuff is almost like a big round bruschetta. I'm no longer in the 'burgh, but I might have just talked myself into driving 3 hours each way to get one right now -- it's that good.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I came to Columbus Ohio from central NJ, and have long taken issue with the Pizza here. It seems to be the product of gluttony over good sense. Round pies are cut into square pieces.because you can not lard a pizza with all the cheep ingredients, low grade cheese, greasy pepperoni, fatty sausage, and rivers of sugary sauce, that are considered necessary here, and serve it any other way than two inch square bites. When I want good pizza in central Ohio, I make it myself. In summer, I use a pizza stone on a charcoal grill, in winter I use my 550 degree oven, and follow the directions for Neapolitan, above.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I have no idea what cloyd42 is talking about. Vince the Pizza Prince is neither long gone nor do they make Old Forge style pizza. Vince's signature pizza is round and covered with almost-burned cheese. They are still open in Scranton in the same location they've always been.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

andy stoops - I think Vincents is gone. You're talking about the place on Penn Ave, right? Yeah, that's Spak Bros. now. It's relatively new, and I haven't been there, but I've heard good things (they do all local/organic stuff, and have vegetarian and vegan offerings).

I never realized that Pittsburgh had sweeter sauce than other parts of the country. I would like to add that it's not just sweet, but usually well seasoned (at least the good ones are), sometimes a little kick to them. There are soooo many pizza places in town, and they're all different, but I haven't encountered any that aren't good. You can always find one that's right for you - the right taste to the sauce, texture to the dough, quantity of toppings. My personal favorite is Rialto's over in Greenfield (although I haven't been there in a few years).

Mineo's seems to be our most famous, but yeah, a bit overrated. Adam, if you make it to Pittsburgh, just order a slice from Mineos, NOT the whole pie. The slices are actually twice baked, which makes them way better.

I also think this is probably fairly local - the pierogie pizza. I refuse to try it, but a lot of local places have some variance of a pierogie pizza, because Pittsburgers seem to think that they invented the pierogie. A pierogie pizza will have mashed potatoes, onions and cheese.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I wanted to chime in on the ongoing New England pizza discussion.

Papa Ginos is somewhat similar to the mom-and-pop stuff, but it's different in a few key ways: 'Ginos has a thinner crust than most local places, and it's less (!) greasy.

Thinking back to the local non-chain pizza of my northeast Connecticut youth, the distinguishing characteristics are a firm-but-not-crisp, doughy bottom, sometimes tending towards rubbery, and the use of cheap manufactured mozz, typically very oily. It tended to be the sort of pizza that, if you were eating a slice and folded it, you could pretty much squeeze several tablespoons of orange grease out of it. The crust tends to be crisp on the outside and soft inside, sometimes a little bready.

And the pizza places, almost always "[town name] Pizza" or [town name] House of Pizza", were uniformly owned by Greek families. (I never quite worked out why...but it was always faux-Italian food, pizza, and good Greek stuff on the menu.) I'm not sure if that's still as much the case now as it was 20 years ago, though.

Some places in New England seem to do the square-cut thing, which I think is truly blasphemous, while others pie cut. I've never been able to figure out a regional variation to this. It's just a weird individual preference of the restaurant owner, I think.

Why nobody in New England, at least north of New Haven, seems to be able to produce a decent NY-style thin-crust, I've no idea. Maybe it's the water.

My personal recommendation, if you wanted to "experience" a representative sample of New England-style pizza, would be to try Willington House of Pizza in Willington, CT. Although they have a menu that's more diverse than average, it covers pretty much everything I remember from all the local places I went as a kid.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

There are 3 kinds of pizza: Good, Better and Best. You be your own judge.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

One more vote for Buffalo style. I've yet to find anything like it in DC, Virginia, California or Washington state. I have some shipped to me every year from Imperial. Carbones on South Park was also a favorite.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

i still have a soft spot for papa gino's, it's the only chain pizza i like. the only problem i've ever had with it is that they never used to peel the tomatoes so i would always end up with some in my teeth. not sure if that's changed since i haven't been there in a few years.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

For those in New England, what about Papa Gino's? Yeh it's a chain, but it's essentially the blueprint for east coast pizza - thin crust, thin layer of cheese that melds perfectly with the somewhat sweet sauce. And on a "side note", two friends and I created http://www.slicefinder.com for just these debates. Pardon the plug, but seems relevant here.


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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

Ohio Valley Style. This native NY-er and sister of a Bronx Pizza Guy went to school in Steubenville, OH for a couple of years and tried Iggy's (the photo in the Mine Road Blog) exactly ONCE. I couldn't get my taste buds around it. I ordered from Domino's from then on in. There was a good midwestern style place in the Steubenville Mall that I've forgotten the name of (this was the early 90's.) I'm open to regional pizza variations (unlike my aforementioned Pizza Time Bro), but this did not work for me.

The calzones I had in Steubenville on the other hand, were a revelation. They were very, very good. Sauce inside? Sauce outside? Yum.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

I gotta add a vote for Upstate NY Style - I grew up in Buffalo, went to school near Rochester. I now live in Florida.

Buffalo style pizza as pointed out is a thicker crust, not greasy, often a little doughy but crisp on the bottom. TONS of cheese... and almost always the peperroni is loaded on, smaller in diameter than most, but always with crisp edges on the pepperoni. Bocce is a great example of this.. but almost any roadside pizzeria in Buffalo has this formula.

Living in Florida, I am sick and tired of every kind of pizza place offering only "NY Style" pizza. Big thin floppy slices that taste like cardboard... I never understood the appeal of that. They taste especially crappy the next day cold... and cold pizza should be one of the BEST ways to eat pizza ;)

The more I think about it, I need to open a Bocce-style pizzeria in Orlando...

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

The Maryland style pizza mentioned before is from chains like: Ledo's, Stained Glass Pub, Corner Pub, Gentleman Jim's, T.J. Elliots, and Pizza Oven. Characterized by rectangular sheet pans, and pizza with a very thin crumbly buttery bisquit style crust. Sweet sauce and cheese is usually provelone but not always.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

Yeah the Upstate style!!! The best is Brandani's on W.Henrietta rd. on Rochester. Pontillos does a nice job for a chain. Columbini's in Chili makes a good one and they have a bakery,so you grab some canoli too.

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A List of Regional Pizza Styles

Aha!

St. Louis Style all the way! Ok, my opinion maybe, but I love it! A close second for me is Chicago deep dish from Lou Malnatti's.... Heavenly!

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Cam's New York Pizzeria; Spencerport, New York

I just moved back to Rochester after 10 years in New York City. Prior to that I worked a number of years at Pontillo's. I understand good pizza and have tried pizza all over NYC and Rochester, and, I will say that any generally held notion that NYC has great pizza is quite funny. NYC is like any other city with multiple businesses. Some of the pizza is OK, and some of it sucks! The worst pizza I've had was in NYC -and it was from a famous chain ... Ray's, I think. Their downtown location was pass-able, and then I had a slice uptown and it was horrible. I would say, overall, unless they are "really" famous for having great pizza, you are more likely to get a good slice in Rochester because in NYC, the owners are cut-throat and serious about saving every penny they can - partly to pay their extremely high rents. Therefore, they will cut any corner possible - using crap cheese, crap dough, etc. And often the people they hire to cook the pizza's could care less - it's a low paying job - affecting the final outcome. A "great NYC pizza" is simply a myth.
If you are talking about thickness of crust, yes, generally NYC uses a thinner crust (less expensive to produce?!) and upstate uses more dough (costs more.)

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