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A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's

I used to go there in the '80s, and Mr. Cassell was still there, it was THE best burger in LA, and at that time besides the mayonaise being made from scratch, so was the ketchup and mustard. The potato salad was killer and they also had a fantastic grilled ham and cheese sandwich on the thinnest rye bread. Haven't been there since the change in ownership, after reading your article and the comments, will try it again.

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Served: Why Tipping Makes Everyone Uncomfortable

What you did was ok in my book, you did it politely and with class. Whenever I have had problems with service, which was reflected in my tip, I ALWAYS let the manager know why. That way they know exactly what the problem was and not that you are just a cheap a..h..e!

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Now that 44% feel confident about buying wine, maybe they should learn how to properly hold the wine glass. Just sayin'.

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From A Hamburger Today

A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's

I used to go there in the '80s, and Mr. Cassell was still there, it was THE best burger in LA, and at that time besides the mayonaise being made from scratch, so was the ketchup and mustard. The potato salad was killer and they also had a fantastic grilled ham and cheese sandwich on the thinnest rye bread. Haven't been there since the change in ownership, after reading your article and the comments, will try it again.

From Serious Eats

Served: Why Tipping Makes Everyone Uncomfortable

What you did was ok in my book, you did it politely and with class. Whenever I have had problems with service, which was reflected in my tip, I ALWAYS let the manager know why. That way they know exactly what the problem was and not that you are just a cheap a..h..e!

From Serious Eats

Serious Grape: Women and Wine

Serious Gripe:

Now that 44% feel confident about buying wine, maybe they should learn how to properly hold the wine glass. Just sayin'.

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Served: Why Tipping Makes Everyone Uncomfortable

So I didn't see the last post, and I haven't read all the comments, but it's a topic that depends on the situation, imo. If it was a large group of people, I would ask again, because that does eat up a lot of one waitress's time. I dined at a nice little place with a friend a few months back, and it was my second time there (pretty sure the waiters recognized me). I had tipped well the first time, as it was a great experience, and the second time, my friend and I completely miscalculated the tip. My waiter came back around and asked us if everything was ok. It was a bit awkward, but I'm glad he did ask, because he deserved more than the $3 we had somehow managed to leave.

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Served: Why Tipping Makes Everyone Uncomfortable

I think the whole idea of tipping is ridiculous: do you tip the toll collector for taking your money? Do you tip the gas man for reading your meter? Do you tip your IT guy for fixing your computer? Of course not. Now, obviously, they don't live on tips. GUESS WHAT: NEITHER SHOULD WAITERS! How insane is it that a customer has to pay basically twice: for the food and for the service? Can you imagine if we had to tip UPS person for delivering the package to your house? Here's another tidbit: are the dishes heavier at T.G.I. Fridays than they are in a fancy steakhouse with $100+ dishes? Where do you come off with a sense of entitlement to a $20 tip just because the food was $100, whereas at Fridays a $20 plate would only get a $4 tip? If restaurant you work at charges that much for food, let them pay you! Enough is enough!

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Served: Why Tipping Makes Everyone Uncomfortable

Tip is left for service which means full-service, as opposed to self-service, right? Even if the server is not what you want or expect, if he/she walked back and forth so you can just sit at your table, shouldn't the server get the minimum 15% unless there are mistakes on the server's part (not the kitchen's)? We expect so much from servers at restaurants, yet accept lousy service everywhere else.

From A Hamburger Today

A Classic Los Angeles Burger with a Perfect Bun at Cassell's

I first wrote about Cassell's in the L.A. Times Sunday Magazine, West, callling it "best in city." I wrote two more pieces, one in Oui, still posted on the wall, and in Rolling Stone (of all places). I spent a lot of time with Al Cassell, and know a thing or two about the history of the place. He started it after WW2 on Wilshire, across from the wonderful building then known as Bullock's Wilshire (now home to Southwestern Law School). When the landlord made it impossible for him to stay, he moved to the SE corner of 6th and Berendo. It was as bare-bones an operation as it is today in terms of decor: Al said that after his experience with that landlord, he would never invest in furnishings: all he prized was his double broiler (and his food). It was then known as Cassell's Patio, because Al made a deal with the apartment building next door to set up tables on a little patio on the apartment building's south side.

About 20 years ago, a family of butchers made Al (who was pretty tired of arriving at 5:30 to trim and grind the meat, make the mayo, etc.) what sounded like a great offer: they'd maintain standards, and expand, and he would share in profits from the new locations. Well, they started serving fries. (When I asked Al why he didn't, he said, "It isn't my picture." He saw himself as a painter.) Worse, they didn't cut him in on any revenue from the other locations (I remember one on Wilshire, in the mini-mall at Crescent Heights). Al got the place back...and sold to Koreans. They kept the standards pretty well at first...but expanded the menu to turkey burgers and veggie burgers.

There was a slide, I think, but at my most recent (albeit infrequent) visit, younger Koreans were at the register, and the quality was clearly back.

About what Al did and didn't make. Yes, mayo (!), yes lemonade (from Grade A lemons, he pointed out), yes potato salad (putting in a liberal dose of Colman's English mustard powder), yes a ketchup relish (but not ketchup itself -- that was Heinz), and yes, Roquefort salad dressing (using real Roquefort cheese).

If the "best days" seem behind Cassell's, in part that's a demographic issue: way back when, the mid-Wilshire area was filled at lunchtime with middle-class shoppers and office workers.

Is Cassell's burger the "best in the world"? Now that upscale luxe restaurants are serving up Kobe beef burgers, I guess not, although I believe that for a "commercial" burger, Cassell's is still in the money in any best burger race.

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Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Unless I'm trying to be a show off, and grinding my own meat, or stuffing blue cheese in the middle of the burger patty, I am completely indiscriminate about what I'll slop on a burger- ketchup, mustard (yellow, dijon or grainy), mayo, relish, pickle, bbq chips, onion rings, pickled onions sliced thin, horseradish, all and sundry hot sauces, vegetables, what else ya got? I pay zero mind to the flavor combinations in that case for some reason and I am rarely displeased.

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Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

This is also good for diet, as its relatively lo-cal.

1/4lb chop meat, drained of fat
1 tbsp lite bbq sauce
sauteed onion
fat free american cheese
corn tortilla

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Both, with lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, seasonings, and sometimes other random veggies (mushrooms, peppers, whatever). Sometimes cheese, sometimes not. Ketchup and mustard can be traded for Frank's though. Or for A1. Or for teriyaki sauce. Or even for marinara and mozzerella. NO mayo.

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Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Preferred in this order...from bottom to top:

Bottom of bun - toasted
French's mustard
Burger patty
American Cheese
Onion slice - no more than 1/4" thick - raw, full slice
Pickles - sufficient to cover the onion
Tomato - 1/4 thick sufficient to cover the almost all of the patty. If 2 slices needed, thinner slice
Iceburg lettuce
Mayo
Top of bun - toasted

NEVER ketchup. That's for fries.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

*shuffles uncomfortably*

Can I have salsa and avocado on a veggie patty instead, please? :(

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Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Adam this is an awesome topic because until I really got involved in 'food blog' stuff I never knew people ate mayo on burgers. Even amongst my friends during the bad 'McD' years, Quarter Pounders were the rule, no mayo-laden Big Macs. I always had hamburgers as a meat eater with ketchup and perhaps a little bit of mustard. I thought there was ketchup and a bit of mustard and nakedness, nothing else.

With veggie burgers, which I eat now, the topping depends on the taste of the patty. I know now that a fondness for various toppings may be very regional and local--I guess in the NJ area where I live, ketchup is the rule.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Mustard is a Texas thing on burgers. I always also add ketchup to mine. I never had mayo on a burger til i moved to the east coast.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Mustard just doesn't sound right so it's ketchup and mayo for me.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Both, but just a smidge of mustard and alot of ketchup and mayo.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

If there is lettuce and a good tomato - then it is mayo and mustard. If not, then it's mustard and pickle only.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

My partner & I are condiment whores....so we've tried everything imaginable....e.g. sriracha & soy sauce on turkey burgers is pretty good!

But...If you are talking about plain old backyard cookouta or picking up a sack at white castle....I gotta go with mustard over ketchup.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

This is not an advertisement, but I like Heinz "57" sauce on my burger.

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

No ketchup or mustard - mayo, tomatoes, lettuce, Frank's sauce, S & P -

From Talk

Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

These days I eat veggie burgers more than regular ones, but when I eat the regular ones it is ketchup all the way. I think I'd sooner use mayo than mustard (in addition to ketchup) because I don't eat cheeseburgers, so I'd imagine it would give it a sort of creaminess that cheese would give (though I don't really know).

Veggie burgers usually get ketchup with a bit of mustard, though this also depends on what is in the burger itself (spices, etc).

PS - I like this "question of the day" thing!

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Question of the Day: On Your Burger—Ketchup or Mustard?

Mustard on one bun, miso mayo on the other! Lettuce, cheese, pickles, and pickled jalapenos. YUM!

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