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Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I'm not vegetarian, but to me, thanksgiving is all about the sides - REAL mashed potatoes, all kinds of pumpkin dishes, stuffing, and cranberries. Usually I don't even get to the turkey...still, I can understand vegetarians wanting a main dish (and there's the pesky issue of vegetarian side dishes that have meat ingredients). I can see where the tofurkey comes it, but honestly, it looks kind of lacking next to the turkey. Some kind of stuffed squash e.g. pumpkin, stuffed with a vegetarian filling, would be visually appealing and tasty. I wonder if there's a vegetarian equivalent for gravy, though? Some sort of sauce flavored with sage and thyme would be nice.
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A Chemex coffeemaker (for the office, no less)...ok, I'm going to end up buying that anyway, so a kitchen scale so I can finally make all those recipes for which the measurements are in METRICS. Yes, I am a silly American ; )
Dinner in East Village?
Cafe Itzocan is really excellent, though on the tiny side. Supper is also very good, especially as the weather gets colder.
NOT the Indian restaurants. They're terrible. But Sigiri is good and different.
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Why Mario's Closing the Enoteca at Del Posto
"What if we earned a Michelin star and no one showed up to enjoy the food?"
I can understand professional ambition, but am not sure how having a less casual place attached impacts food quality, unless the pace or volume of serving food in the more casual Enoteca impacts the ability to serve high quality food at Del Posto (doubtful). So basically, he's upping the snob appeal in hope of recognition. It seems like it might backfire - if anything, Michelin seems willing to recognize places that are more casual in atmosphere but excellent in food.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I'm not vegetarian, but to me, thanksgiving is all about the sides - REAL mashed potatoes, all kinds of pumpkin dishes, stuffing, and cranberries. Usually I don't even get to the turkey...still, I can understand vegetarians wanting a main dish (and there's the pesky issue of vegetarian side dishes that have meat ingredients). I can see where the tofurkey comes it, but honestly, it looks kind of lacking next to the turkey. Some kind of stuffed squash e.g. pumpkin, stuffed with a vegetarian filling, would be visually appealing and tasty. I wonder if there's a vegetarian equivalent for gravy, though? Some sort of sauce flavored with sage and thyme would be nice.
Win Tickets To 'Cook. Eat. Drink. Live.' This Weekend
A Chemex coffeemaker (for the office, no less)...ok, I'm going to end up buying that anyway, so a kitchen scale so I can finally make all those recipes for which the measurements are in METRICS. Yes, I am a silly American ; )
Dinner in East Village?
Cafe Itzocan is really excellent, though on the tiny side. Supper is also very good, especially as the weather gets colder.
NOT the Indian restaurants. They're terrible. But Sigiri is good and different.
What Your Beer Says About You
Wow, I'm surprised at the intensity of the beer discussion! Somehow, I'd glommed on to the beer drinkers as mellow, amiable folk stereotype...
Cakespy: Leftover Halloween Candy Pie
I love that someone would do this - it's a great concept piece, even though I couldn't imagine eating it. People need to lighten up...
All-You-Can-Eat Restaurants: Great Deal, Or Bad Policy?
I think all-you-can-eat is more a symptom than the cause of the obesity epidemic. I think this would not be so appealing if the consumers who go to them (repeatedly, not just for the occasional night of gluttony) didn't already have an altered attitude towards food. I just don't understand how they are economically viable without violating all kinds of health and hygiene standards; if anything, that should be grounds for shutting them down.
Standing Room Only: Iyanzé Truck
This sounds amazing - bring on the heat! Wish there was one of these making the rounds near my building - African food is vastly underrepresented in NY (and by in NY, I mean within a 10 minute walk from my office for lunch : )
Eggplant for Dessert?
I know that squash custards are popular as a dessert and that bitter melon is the basis for desserts as well, so this isn't that far fetched. I don't like eggplant, but would like to hear how this combination works from someone who does
The Cookie Diet: Plain Kooky or Just Kooky Enough?
I object to using the word "cookie" for what resembles a piece of drywall and probably approximates its chemical composition, too.
@DomesticMuse: even bacon and maple cookies ; )
The Dessert Files: One Girl Cookies
I can't speak as to the other products, but I have to say that the Lucia cookie is addictive - the caramel has a nice density and butteriness.
Thanks, But No Thanks: Pumpkin Spice Frozen Yogurt at Red Mango
Review of this was spot on. There was an odd, almost chemical taste (and I normally like the frozen yogurt). Whatever it tasted like, it didn't taste like pumpkin.
Fall At Momofuku Milk Bar: Rice Pudding Pie (And Stuffing Soft-Serve)
I had this pie, and sadly, it was the first thing I've had at Momofuku by which I've been underwhelmed. The apples were delicious. Although the crust tasted nice and gingery the texture was offputtingly mushy, and the filling was really bland - not a good proportion of custard to rice, and the rice was al dente. Looking forward to trying the new soft serve flavors, though.
Snapshots from London: Raclette at Borough Market's Kappacasein
Was there last month, and could not possibly eat another bite...soooooo wish I had seen this and had some.
Cook the Book: 'The Craft of Baking'
Bannoffee pie at Konditor & Cook in London. Condensed milk yogurt, homemade. Mango Basil Icy at NYICY.
Gourmet Magazine Will Fold This Year
I am only familiar with the last few years of Gourmet, so I can't speak as to the quality declining, but I really enjoyed and looked forward to the magazine. From what I can see, it was a unique publication - the photography was beautiful, the writing was good, and it had a mixture of ambitious recipes with everyday ones. No, it didn't have the rigour of Cook's Illustrated, or the ease of recipes in most publications. Yes, it may sometimes have focused too much on what was trendy, expensive over more substantive topics. Maybe it ended up looking too much like a travel magazine than a food publication at times. But overall, it was a really excellent magazine that I enjoyed reading all the way through, and it was writing about the culture, history, and traditions behind the food described. I can't think of too many other publications that do this regularly and comprehensively.
Meh!
Great topic...I think I feel this way often when I read great food product reviews, then try the product and fail to get the same kick. I'm especially prone to experiencing "meh" moments when I've waited a long time to try something, or paid more than expected or was planning on spending. I think it's safe to say it's the danger of raised expectations. Most recent 'meh' moments were were with JacquesTorres chocolates, Zzzang bars, and the cookies at Momofuku.
Of course there's the anti-meh, where you go in not expecting very much and then are wowed, and rave, perhaps undeservedly. Which leads to someone else's "meh", producing the meh cycle...
Bacon as a Bookmark: More Common Than You'd Think
It'd be great if it was found in a vegetarian cookbook....
Fluffernutter: Massachusetts' State Sandwich?
NJ: high brow: Bobolink farm cheese + Jersey tomatoes. Low-brow: anything you can find at the Grease Trucks.
Serious Cocktails: Rediscovering Calvados and Other Apple Brandies
I love Calvados during the winter. It nursed me through a bad period two winters ago (or I guess I should say that I nursed it...). It's probably not the most sophisticated way to drink it, but I used to have hot toddies made with it. Very comforting.
Have Menus Gotten Too Complicated?
As a small eater, I do appreciate the proliferation of categories, if the restaurant maintains its quality standards. What I don't like is having to worry about being given dirty looks for ordering "too little". If I only want a snack, and appetizer and a dessert, is that too little to order? What about just an entree? I think the whole trend is a way to nudge diners to spend more, especially if portions are small and diners would like to try more of the money.
Maybe we should just revert to picture menues, a la Chinese takeout places. No surprises there!
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David Chang/Christina Tosi. Second on the food from Public - I've enjoyed everything I've had there. And...the bartender from Angel's Share for (lots) of drinks.
New York City Wine and Food Festival: Ticket Giveaway, 'Pulse of the Wine World'
Trockenbeerenauslese. It was a gorgeous dessert wine. Too bad I can neither afford it regularly nor pronounce it.
Cook the Book: 'Gourmet Today'
First cookbook I remember reading - the Quasar Microwave Cookbook that came with our microwave. I was really fascinated by the idea that the microwave could produce a cake, though I've never actually tried it.
The first cookbook I ever chose for myself was Julia Child's Mastering the Art of French cooking - we were selecting gratuity copies of books that came with the newspaper subscription, and it was either that or a book on cars. To this day, I'm glad for the fortuitous choice - it really was her writing and descriptions that sparked my interest in food.
Beer Pretzel Caramels, Bacon-Caramel Popcorn, and So Much More
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Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I am a vegetarian and I was born on a Thanksgiving Day so this is a BIG DEAL for me... I just don't like to eat a bunch of side dishes that seem to have nothing in common... That's why I have taken it upon myself to make a vegetarian menu with which noboby will miss the traditional turkey. This is what I have done in the last few years:
2006
Butternut Squash Lasagna from Giada Di Laurentiis
I guess we accompanied it with a salad... can't remember
2007
Butternut Squash Mac & Cheese
Vanilla Maple Glazed Carrots
Sweet Potato Flan
Arugula/Red Onion Salad
2008
Pumpkin Rissoto
Baked Sweet Plantains
Vanilla Cheese Flan - same recipe as above, but without the sweet potato added.
2009 - this menu is still in the works... but here are a few options I am considering
pumpkin polenta
sweet potato mash with a homemade cranberry sauce
truffle mac & cheese - just because its delicious and super simple to make
roasted pears with blue cheese and hazelnut pralines
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Years ago, before they were readily available here, I paid $50 to have a Tofurkey shipped to me (I think it was like $20 for the Tofurkey itself and $30 for the shipping--it arrived packed in dry ice via Fed Ex) and it was absolutely terrible. Looked like an inside out sweat shock, and tasted about what I'd imagine is the same, with the added bonus of a rubbery texture. A waste of money and a disappointing centerpiece to our meal. Maybe they've improved them over the years, but when I see people rave about them I boggle. I'd have been better off just marinating some nice simple tofu.
Now I just go all out with the sides, which is more than enough.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I've always gone the sides route and have been vegetarian long enough that my family respects my decision and doesn't make the sides with chicken broth or whatever. It also helps that many of our family's traditional dishes don't have animal products, like my grandmother's roasted eggplant salad.
But, if there's any worry that you're putting someone out with your request (or that you're being put out), there's no harm in bringing something to the table yourself (or asking your guest to). It lets the vegetarian be in control of their food, introduces other family members to their lifestyle choice/veggie foods and helps the host/hostess out. Honestly, most veg*ans are used to this anyway and it'll be a good experience for your brother.
Since my grandmother is getting on in years, I plan on doing a lot of cooking this year anyway. I'll be making a veggie gravy (roux of margarine/flour, veggie broth, various herbs and soy sauce for umami), green bean casserole, garlic mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes from The Modern Vegetarian Table. My husband, an omnivore, is making his signature "bird in a bag" (roasting a spice-rubbed turkey in a paper bag).
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
My family's vegetarian and I'm proud to say we've never had a tofurkey for Thanksgiving. For a vegan dish, I'd recommend stuffed grape leaves or this Bosnian vegetarian "meatball" recipe from Sundays at Moosewood:
http://www.recipezaar.com/Bosnian-Vegetarian-Meatballs-in-Yogurt-Sauce-134497
The recipe calls for eggs but you can probably use egg substitute or more tofu instead. They're really tasty, with a lot of flavor from ground almonds, caraway, parsley, and other spices.
Or, pan-glazed tofu with red curry sauce, which is less time-intensive but equally delicious:
http://wednesdaychef.typepad.com/the_wednesday_chef/2007/02/post.html
I make this vegan by leaving out the fish sauce and subbing vegetable stock or water for the chicken stock.
Good for you for taking the time to provide tasty food for your brother!
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
@Nickiter
Like not be a difficult eater for a day and just deal with what's given them?
Cakespy: Leftover Halloween Candy Pie
My left over goes to the local hospitals ER breakroom. It does'nt last long there.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I don't like most faux-meat products, but I live and die by Quorn's Turk'y Roast (http://www.quorn.us/cmpage.aspx?pageid=462&productid=146). It's not vegan, but it IS delicious.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Just wanted to add that vegetarian gravy is ridiculously easy to make if you have a good veggie broth or stock. Just make a roux (you can even use olive oil for a vegan gravy) and whisk in the broth, then season the crap out of it.
I'm no longer vegetarian, but when I was, I unabashedly went the parade-of-sides route. Green bean casserole was a must for me, along with stuffing (with apples!), roasted spiced sweet potatoes, homemade cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie. My vegetarian ex-husband, on the other hand, would just mix corn and stuffing into his mashed potatoes and call it a day.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
My husband and stepsons are vegetarians and I come from a big meat-eating family. So for the holidays, in addition to all the sides that they can enjoy, I usually do some kind of pasta dish, a canneloni, or a lasagna. This is easy to make ahead and freeze and just heat up on the day. I also do a vegetarian gravy -- from a dry mix. The brown gravy is quite delicious and my niece who is not a vegetarian, prefers my "gravy" to the one from the bird drippings.
We also used to do two stuffings, one in the bird and one not. But after a few years, it was just as easy to just do one in a big pan, not in the bird. I can't really tell the difference now.
This year, I am thinking of making a mushroom streudal. Mushrooms are very 'meaty' and I think this would be delicious with a bit of 'gravy'. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
My aunt is vegetarian and came to our place for dinner last year. She was the only vegetarian among us omnivores, so it was Mom to the rescue. Having grown up Seventh Day Adventist--though not vegetarian--I am accustomed to occasional vegetarian dinners. Mom made one of her delicious vegetarian loaves--which is always a hit at church pot lucks--from cottage cheese, eggs, ground nuts, bread crumbs, and perhaps mushrooms. She also made vegetarian gravy to go with, so we had to two gravies, the other being made with the drippings. I think more than half of us--owing to the general Thanksgiving pile on--had some of this veggie loaf special addition to the table and it was delicious. I think I also did a vegan stuffing with veggie stock, and all the other veggie sides were without bacon or drippings or chicken/turkey stock, which is not my preference, but everything was a hit!
I think if I were to do a veggie entree it would be three sisters stew, (corn, beans, squash) using either summer squash and corn or winter squash and hominy. The stew can be done in the crockpot and it celebrates foods of the New World and the fall harvest. The veggie loaf, the gravy, and the three sisters stew can all be made ahead and taste better the next day anyway.
Why Mario's Closing the Enoteca at Del Posto
What a really bad excuse. I don't think the critics are going to like it either.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Since my favorite thing has always been the Cornbread Dressing, I make a pan of that and also some white gravy (not a vegan). And then I make Candied Sweet Potatoes, Green Bean Casserole. Hardly miss the turkey!
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I love the sides and happily eat my way through dinner with plenty of room for pie, and more pie! If you want something more specific/complete The Moosewood Restaurant Celebrates features both a fully vegetarian and a separate fully vegan Thanksgiving menu. The recipes look awesome and I plan to make a couple of them this year.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I have a vegan sister-in-law and we have fun making delicious sides that she will enjoy (and the rest of us will enjoy too). We end up kind of having a contest to see who can bring the most outrageous and delicious side dish. I make a dressing with lots of different mushrooms in it and it is hearty enough on its own, and one of the best leftovers.
My mother-in-law did buy a Tofurkey one year (with gravy!) and we all agreed (especially my sister-in-law) that really it was just salty soy goop.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
i make most of the food for my entire (HUGE) family, so i know everything that went in to the meal. and funny, even though i'm a vegetarian, i don't "resent" the choice my family has made to eat meat when i feed them- cooking is what i (most of us) do for those i care about, not a chore.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
My parents-in-law are vegetarians, so when we have Thanksgiving at their house, everything other than the turkey bird is vegetarian. They were happy to have just the sides (green bean casserole, mashed 'taters, roasted vegetables, stuffing, etc), but last year my FIL bought a Tofurky with mushroom gravy. (He thought it was okay.)
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Used to have a great recipe for a nut loaf wrapped in pastry ala beef wellington. made an impressive centerpiece, but I've lost the recipe. I'm sure you could find a nut loaf online, and you could make the pastry with vegetable shortening.
Roasted vegetables with the traditional sides would keep me happy any day, and I'm not a vegetarian.
Great mushroom gravy in Sundays at Moosewood that totally faked me out the first time I made it, it tastes so meaty.
For years we had a pot-luck Thanksgiving, and along with the traditional stuff we had lots of interesting nontraditional dishes - potato salad, lasagna, phyllo-wrapped asparagus or asparagus with crumb topping. Being thankful for family and friends around the table for the day makes the food secondary. It's great to have wonderful food, and even better to share it with those we love.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
As a vegetarian, my Thanksgiving meal is a starch fest (all sides -- potatoes and stuffing, I'm looking at you -- plus some sautéed mushrooms for funsies). Not that I mind :) My mother is also a vegetarian and nary a met product makes an appearance in her house.
Besides, It's all about the pie anyway isn't it.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Last year was my first vegan thanksgiving. I never really went for the turkey at thanksgiving when I ate meat anyway because frankly, the sides are so much better! As a vegan, you become very accustomed to NOT eating at others homes during big holidays because even if people are trying to be accomodating it is difficult to demand a vegan dish from someone (even if they are family) when they are responsible for a feast for 25 people who have different tastes. It is good to make dishes which can be veganized at the table that way people can customize based on diet.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
Oh, and I should add, you can totally tell when it's spiked with chicken broth or other meat bits sometimes..
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
@stphjay
I think that if you care enough to have someone over to share your Thanksgiving with them, you would care enough to be respectful of their lifestyle/diet. In general, I usually don't ask because it seems rude and nit-picky when I am in someone else's home but when it's someone notorious for "spiking food" (like my mother) or generally unknowledgeable or disrespectful, I ask.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 (I'm 31 now) and I was never much of a meat eater before that, so my family has been wise to Veggie Holiday foods for a while now: We never have meat in the stuffing and we never put it in the bird (that's more for bacteriological reasons; everyone in my family also works in the healthcare field). My grandmother sometimes makes a gravy with turkey drippings, but there's also always a meatless one (usually from roast veggies). The sweet potatoes don't have marshmallows on them, and there's always tons of other traditional and non-traditional sides, non of which contain meat. We do all the holidays and family gatherings this way and no one's ever complained about not having enough meat. -- My most-requested dish is a Kraft Stuffing Ball recipe where I substitute sautéed mushrooms, green onions and garlic, for the pork, and use vegetarian stuffing and vegetarian cranberry sauce. So good!
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
All you vegetarians who happily gorge on sides - do you know for sure that the stuffing isn't made with chicken broth? How about everything else?
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
goodness... one thing I am THANKFUL for this Thanksgiving is my family and friends for being omnivores. No offense to anybody but I just can't imagine having go to cater to all these special requests.
Vegetarians, How Do You Do Thanksgiving?
I googhled "vegan Thanksgiving" and came up with 1,850,000 hits-----so obviously we are not alone! :-D
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"What if we earned a Michelin star and no one showed up to enjoy the food?"
I can understand professional ambition, but am not sure how having a less casual place attached impacts food quality, unless the pace or volume of serving food in the more casual Enoteca impacts the ability to serve high quality food at Del Posto (doubtful). So basically, he's upping the snob appeal in hope of recognition. It seems like it might backfire - if anything, Michelin seems willing to recognize places that are more casual in atmosphere but excellent in food.