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Do you ever dream about food or cooking?
When I had my first visit to a particular local ice cream shoppe, that night I dreamed of the Mexican Vanilla I'd eaten. Needless to say, it's been my favorite since "hello."
What makes a good barista?
I'm nowhere near barista expertise, but my consumer mentality knows that when I go to locally owned coffee shops, the espresso has a much better balance in my latte than at Sbux. And Sbux uses much more syrup, comparatively (ick). If there's not a crowd, a friendly barista will bring your coffee to you. And this is frilly, but I think the foam designs add a touch of elegance and care to that ultimate comfort-beverage treat.
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Dinner Tonight: Lemon Chicken with Rice
A new favorite! The ingredients are kitchen staples, both my husband and 4-year old love it, and it's a snap to prepare. Love it!
Do you ever dream about food or cooking?
When I had my first visit to a particular local ice cream shoppe, that night I dreamed of the Mexican Vanilla I'd eaten. Needless to say, it's been my favorite since "hello."
What makes a good barista?
I'm nowhere near barista expertise, but my consumer mentality knows that when I go to locally owned coffee shops, the espresso has a much better balance in my latte than at Sbux. And Sbux uses much more syrup, comparatively (ick). If there's not a crowd, a friendly barista will bring your coffee to you. And this is frilly, but I think the foam designs add a touch of elegance and care to that ultimate comfort-beverage treat.
Dinner Tonight: Lemon Chicken with Rice
wow. that sauce was so good!
What makes a good barista?
My favorite barista is an overweight, flannel shirt-wearing teddy bear-of-a-man who knows coffee but knows good business better. A very sweet person. He's hardly the urban hipster talking down to you or trying to impress all with his Mad Libs quality vocab.
And he'd never publicly rag on his customers, sure as the sun rises.
What makes a good barista?
I just want a cup of coffee that tastes good! I don't need you to remember what I like because tomorrow I may want something different. If everybody wanted the same thing, guess what, there would be only ONE TYPE OF COFFEE ON THE MENU!!
What makes a good barista?
A good barista remembers who ordered what, and steams/foams the milk really well. I love lattes with that perfect texture of light foam all the way through.
Hillary
Chew on That
What makes a good barista?
I am not a dude. I also think the term dude is insulting LOL wow another shocker!!! Take your own advise please. We can all agree to disagree and certainly I will when I feel I want to. That is the beauty of it. My opinion is mine and I do not need permission to state it.
What makes a good barista?
Jerzee- Dude, just stop. You're just embarrassing yourself now. Oh wait, I guess that's nothing new.
Carry on.
What makes a good barista?
@raeseller I am guessing the word assery is new for you, and I am glad about that. I am also guessing you are a young person. I get it that you are a barista. I posted about my coffee system before I bought it because I wanted to be able to turn out some good drinks here at the house for us and company. If you go and check back, you can see what I bought. It is very nice and we really love it. I have lots of clues. I use my clues often. One of them is and I stand by this, service industry is about service. I have never went to get a coffee for fun. Maybe thats where I miss the whole coffee fun demographic. Often I have fun and no coffee or coffee products are in the room, how odd? It must be great to be young and think the world is on a string. You gave me the best laugh today. Bless you, serve your coffee with elan, verve and your sense of humor. I so enjoyed that.
You now use the word bartender. Which as you know is the real meaning of the word Barista. Now there is someone who could make me have fun someone who serves booze. I would wait and line and take attitide for someone who mixes a damn good martini. You know it!
What makes a good barista?
Jerzee--You talk big, but it's assuring to know you've really got no clue what you're talking about.
What you're saying here is pretty much the antithesis to everything I've learned in three years as a barista; you damn well better act like your customers are the center of your attention; you better know what to say when someone asks "so, why is a dark roast more bitter than a light?"; you really have to be able to make and take jokes--remember, people come to a shop because they want to enjoy something and have fun. If they didn't, i guess they'd stay at home with their "coffee system" (wtf kind of pretentious assery is this?), and not bother hardworking bartenders trying to buck a living.
What makes a good barista?
Jerzee--You talk big, but it's assuring to know you've really got no clue what you're talking about.
What you're saying here is pretty much the antithesis to everything I've learned in three years as a barista; you damn well better act like your customers are the center of your attention; you better know what to say when someone asks "so, why is a dark roast more bitter than a light?"; you really have to be able to make and take jokes--remember, people come to a shop because they want to enjoy something and have fun. If they didn't, i guess they'd stay at home with their "coffee system" (wtf kind of pretentious assery is this?), and not bother hardworking bartenders trying to buck a living.
What makes a good barista?
I think most people have missed the point Jerzee was attempting to make... Most baristas have some severe attitude when dealing with the average american, replete with average American intelligence. The point of argument was that preparing and explaining coffee take some mastery, consuming it does not. Therefore, I really doesn't matter what the person in front of the counter does for a living, nor how they order.* If you want proof that most baristas are snarky, "underappreciated," masters students, there are many, many, many blogs about it....
*as long as they are POLITE
Do you ever dream about food or cooking?
I dreamed once I was a little girl crawling around in my grandmother's kitchen, watching her cook in her cast-iron skillets.
Since she -- along with Momma and my other maw-maw -- taught me to cook, it was probably a good memory that came back in a dream!
Do you ever dream about food or cooking?
dbcurrie;
I've had the Iron Chef dream too!
(my secret ingredient was peanut butter????) weird.
I've also awoken with the strong urge for Sushi when I dreamt that I was making it--but everytime I would try to do the cigar roll; the seaweed paper would break-apart into tiny, tiny pieces causing me to attempt the roll with all of the toppings ALL OVER AGAIN!
It was frustrating but I sure craved it in the morning!
What makes a good barista?
the best espresso i ever had in the US was at buona italia in the chelsea market. the barista was a young italian man who was here in the US doing some painting and paying his dues as an artist in new york city, but obviously great coffee was his birthright -- he was a wonderful painter, but his coffeemaking was just as much his art. i was so impressed with the deliciousness of his coffee that i had several cups and chatted with him for a long time {him in italian, me in spanish, and we actually understood each other fairly well} while the store's cat took up residence on my lap.
interestingly, i ran into him in borough park, brooklyn, one day. {he lived there, i worked there a couple of days a week.} we were both having lunch in a hasidic bagel joint on 13th avenue. he happily sat down next to me and, without a single comment or complaint, drank a cup of dishwater coffee out of a styrofoam cup as we chatted and ate our bagels. i was amazed that he was such a non snob.
What makes a good barista?
Chelley you own a business. Several of them and my rant was never directed at you. I appreciate you a lot! But I will say this, running your own business is never easy. I too was a service industry person/business owner thus my rants about unhappy service providers. No one called anyone a "peon".
I responded to someone stating they were never happy giving service and that made me take issue. No one is going to toot your horn for owning your own business and being good at it. Sorry but that doesn't happen.
Actually my tips do have an effect on people, they would people who WORK for a living.
What makes a good barista?
...someone who doesn't lick caramel or whipped cream or foam or anything off of their fingers while they're working.
@smile - EWWW! :D
BTW, any job that has a person work with the public provides its own level of B.S. Some days are good, others require a martini (or seven).
When a barista or any service employee - even a maitre'd at the most expensive place on the planet - makes me feel like I'm being looked down upon, I will choose to spend my money elsewhere. I don't want to be insulted if I ask a question about a type of coffee or clarification on one of the terms used on the menu. That's the tail wagging the dog and I simply do not tolerate it. I'm paying and this means I get served with a smile - and not with attitude.
Many is the time I'll compliment a barista for their coffee product. I'm not above saying "You are the FOAM QUEEN!" or "You give good foam" or "GOD, I needed that!" I know it doesn't stop the presses to get a compliment from lil ol me but it's nice to express satisfaction when someone does something right.
What makes a good barista?
@ Jerzee....your 110% right. Drinking coffee requires no skill. Creating the delicious beverage actually does. It takes endless hours of crucial tastings to get the bean just right. "You get no cookies for the painfully obvious knowledge that you acquire doing your job". Most hourly paid workers have never been to a roaster, done a cupping or even know the difference between Jamaican Blue and Folgers Drip.
Then there are those of us that actually do. We are thrilled to death that you have your own system and don't have to grace us with ridiculousness in thinking that being a good tipper will be the standard in which you get a good cup.
I work roughly 80 hours a week, not including ordering, payroll, taxes, scheduling, stock, inventory and upkeep. This does not include catering and doing cupcake orders as they roll in. I guess that just makes me one of those service industry peeons you refer to so often. I wonder if any of THAT requires skill?
What makes a good barista?
I don't think I was too harsh. I have a strong ethic for service and it is people who do not who tend to push my buttons. As I did say in my post if you do not like service choose another career option. As for me filling in for RIP George, I loved him, I think everyone did. I also really liked Bernie Mac RIP. He was a dynamic person.
My poor Barista, named Tom was well tipped and never made me a crappy cup of coffee. Tom was the example I used for my definition of what a barista should be. What I hated about going there was the standing in line for coffee. So I bought my own system. It was not because of the terrible service, Tom is still there now he makes me iced tea, it is summer.
Half black tea/half lemonade, give that a try.
I was having a very good day thanks for your concern. I again am just tired of the poor focus on service.
What makes a good barista?
Jerzee can fill in for George Carlin (RIP).
What makes a good barista?
Jerzee- Good thing you bought your own coffee system... less drama indeed (that is-- for the poor barista who'd have to serve you a cup).
What makes a good barista?
Me.
If not me, someone who makes good foam and pulls a good shot (and doesn't use it if it ends up being bad). Also, someone who doesn't lick caramel or whipped cream or foam or anything off of their fingers while they're working. Also, someone who makes iced drinks very cold and stirs up all the sauce from the bottom of the glass before serving it.
What makes a good barista?
Wow. Just wow, Jerzee. I can be harsh, but this was nuts. I hope you feel better now, and I hope you have a better day tomorrow.
What makes a good barista?
First of all I am going to complain. Shocking I know. Everyone has to put up with bullshit at work, every damn body. Why is it such a total stretch when you have to make coffee for tired people that they might give you some shit? Shockerooni. Shut up and do your job. This tidbit "you still have an obligation to treat your customers as though they are all important and worth your time" You should just hang up your apron and go on home, you missed the point of having a job and you need someone to explain what service is to you so you understand it. If you worked for me you would last a week, if I did not catch it sooner.
If you do not want to deal with the public find a job where you do not have to. I am very tired of hearing people who serve others for a living complain. It is tired.
Secondly just serve the damn coffee. Be polite and make the coffee and serve it. Don't be a comedian, don't be mr or ms personality, your not on a reality program, you are there to make freaking coffee.
Make it the way I want it, not the way you think I want it, not the way "I am so clever about all things coffee" attitude reinterpreting coffee orders. Just give people what they ask for-full stop! People have choices they are going to choose things you do not agree with. No one asked you to sell your opinion, just the coffee please.
One would imagine you would know about coffee; you work in a coffee selling, brewing, serving establishment. You get no cookies for the painfully obvious knowledge that you acquire doing your job.
As for the IQ of your boss, the customers, Americans or any other person this has little or nothing to do with the ordering, brewing, serving and consumption of coffee. Drinking coffee is not a skilled task, it is consumption of a beverage. Hardly worthy of academic standing.
Good grief grab the clue train when it rides by.
Coffee culture never went out of style. This is why I bought a good coffee/cappucino system for my home just because this kind of behavior and attitude. I can make my own coffee. It is less drama.
In the words of a great SE community member (I forget who), you are not a barista, your someone who makes and serves coffee for a living.
What makes a good barista?
As a barista, i'd say, in order of importance:
1. ability to put up with bullshit; you'll get a lot of it. from dumb customers(and from those who think they're smart but not so much), from coworkers, from bosses, etc; no matter what, you still have an obligation to treat your customers as though they are all important and worth your time(a side note--personal drama does not belong behind the bar and your customers will not usually want to hear about it)
2. A sense of humor--because of number one, and because of the amazing amount of miscellany you'll put up with, you're going to need to be able to take jokes, and make them; customers like witty banter, and it'll help fill out your tip jar.
3. actual real knowledge of coffee--this is last, but it's still important; you are an absolute authority on coffee, meaning both your shop's drinks and policies, and also just the greater world about coffee; read up on coffee history, try as may different varietals as you can, try different drinks; customers will want to know their drinks are being made by a professional, so knowing what to say and do is important(note--this doesn't mean you should randomly throw around facts--people don't tend to like a know-it-all).
another note, and this is from personal experience--there is a very good chance your boss, for many levels(ie, your boss, your boss's boss, etc), will be a moron; learn that doing things right often does not necessarily mean following the rules.
What makes a good barista?
As a barista, i'd say, in order of importance:
1. ability to put up with bullshit; you'll get a lot of it. from dumb customers(and from those who think they're smart but not so much), from coworkers, from bosses, etc; no matter what, you still have an obligation to treat your customers as though they are all important and worth your time(a side note--personal drama does not belong behind the bar and your customers will not usually want to hear about it)
2. A sense of humor--because of number one, and because of the amazing amount of miscellany you'll put up with, you're going to need to be able to take jokes, and make them; customers like witty banter, and it'll help fill out your tip jar.
3. actual real knowledge of coffee--this is last, but it's still important; you are an absolute authority on coffee, meaning both your shop's drinks and policies, and also just the greater world about coffee; read up on coffee history, try as may different varietals as you can, try different drinks; customers will want to know their drinks are being made by a professional, so knowing what to say and do is important(note--this doesn't mean you should randomly throw around facts--people don't tend to like a know-it-all).
another note, and this is from personal experience--there is a very good chance your boss, for many levels(ie, your boss, your boss's boss, etc), will be a moron; learn that doing things right often does not necessarily mean following the rules.
What makes a good barista?
A Good Attitude.
If you make a mistake or the coffee isn't the greatest once; I'll probablly come back and try again.
If you are a sour puss; you won't see me again.
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A new favorite! The ingredients are kitchen staples, both my husband and 4-year old love it, and it's a snap to prepare. Love it!