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chicken liver or foie pate and croutons! autumnal and preview of luscious meal to come.
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THis is so very interesting to read!!!
@ yayfood: as a student of business in Hospitality Mangement, i agree with your contentions entirely! BUT, if I were ever chased and it was implied that ,'hey, lady...you need to fork over a hell of a lot more'..that would just be so very unprofessional and repellent.
The Most Unhealthy Thing You've Ever Made
@pavlov:
holy poo! that sounds f'in delish! and insanely naughty,naughty!
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update to previously discussed--Las Vegas restaurants!
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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
AHHHH I cannot cannot do relationships with picky eaters. Nope. Wayyyy too many implications there. That's just me; it would snuff out a lot of pleasure in my life.
Thanksgiving Day Appetizer Suggestions
chicken liver or foie pate and croutons! autumnal and preview of luscious meal to come.
Tipping on Alcohol
THis is so very interesting to read!!!
@ yayfood: as a student of business in Hospitality Mangement, i agree with your contentions entirely! BUT, if I were ever chased and it was implied that ,'hey, lady...you need to fork over a hell of a lot more'..that would just be so very unprofessional and repellent.
The Most Unhealthy Thing You've Ever Made
@pavlov:
holy poo! that sounds f'in delish! and insanely naughty,naughty!
The Most Unhealthy Thing You've Ever Made
@gbania:
OH MY GOSH IN MY FAMILY WE HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT CAKE FOR YEARS!!!!!
except I call it "the Robert Redford cake"! the very idea of whom is better than sex, to me. haha.
This cake I will make for my younger brother--one of his favorite things-- when I feel like being sweet. Okay, 'for my brother' is probably just an excuse.
BUT THAT GOOEY, TERRIBLE RICHNESS IS ..AHHH...SO DAMN WONDERFUL!! and i dont do 'real' baking, so I love its simplicity.
suggestions from those familiar with vegas.
hmmm, I suppose I should mention this: I am going as a student (for career related purposes, a weeklong internship) with three other ladies. Which means I won't be rolling in cash! Further, none of us is familiar with the area.
Thanks, @hunkerdown. keep the ideas coming!
Favorite Fall Foods?
@gastronomeg: YES to the halloween candy! I love candy corn! Stupid, I know, but it's so great.
I'm with all these bits about pumpkin and other squash. Yummmm.
Ah, my mother's chicken and dumplings...
I love love beautiful fall apples and pears, too.
sexy food suggestions
you guys are fantastic!
Thanks for all the ideas.
@hmw: those were entertaining. and helpful.
The new guy has identified a love for risotto, so after careful consideration, I'm gonna break out the big guns and choose a combination of his and my favorite ingredients, and... well, hopefully it will be a lovely play-in-the-kitchen-date.
Cooking with wine
I'm with pooch on this where beef i concerned.
of course, great with duck. great with pork. great with salmon.
Chefs vs. City: Anybody watching?
I kind of get it. Seems like the idea is for them to delve into some representative food component of the city--and then 'hold their own' in their treatment of that food component up against the native pair.
I mostly think it's pretty stupid, though.
To be honest, though, I was giggling quite a bit watching it the other night. Aaron is pretty fun on camera.
What herb combo to use?
use a tiny bit of all of them! 'herbed' items are usually amalgamations of a handful herbs.
Your Fast Food Urge.....just had mine...tasty.
@juliebugs: that made me smile really big. how funny, like it's shameful.
I actually do enjoy sonic (esp. onion rings) and i love wendys. i just think their stuff is just good.
Your Fast Food Urge.....just had mine...tasty.
haha yehhh.. i got in the habit of ordering some McD's burgers when in the company of siblings, after long refusing it. I always want milkshakes, though. always. Sometimes the novelty of the junk is desirable.
I havent had a major craving in a couple weeks now, though.
Food and Culture
really glad to see this. I'm straddling the fence here. I always..yeh, pretty much always adamantly assert my feelings about treating culture and food with the most respect possible. I feel we have duties to preserve centuries-old traditions and absolutely treat these traditions--here, through food, obviously--as such and with great veneration.
On the other hand, I think that as we all gain increasingly more access to information about food, the cultural lines and the standards begin to blur. That is, things are 'borrowed' and we 'cheat', 'fuse', etc.
I guess this means that all ideas have their places.
And that credit should be given where due, and not where it doesn't belong.
Savory Brunch item to go?
Big, yummy frittata! It can sit at room temp for a bit, and is wholly very forgiving. Fill it up with whatever you like/have around: leftover cheeses, onions & garlic, cured meats, leftover veggies...etc
Dove recipes?
we eat quail all the time in the winter. all the time. similar prep:
either:
pan sear, be very scant on the temp. the best movie quote mantra: "..there's no greater sin than to overcook a quail."(here, dove) dove would like butter, lots of black pepper, and garlic. it also would like implementation of red wine, or even a yeasty beer. really, try reducing a dark and rich brew.
or:
slowly braised. we tend to eat it a lot with wild rice. again, the rich but fruit-tinged profile is very nice.. try cooking with some dried currants or plums.
Fish & Red Wine????
hm. I eat fish quite often; I'm gonna say the particular flavor profile of the dish needs to be properly suited (to some considerable degree, anyway) to a red. whichever red that may be. so I believe I'm agreeing with @gutreactions--sure, drink whatever you love or are in the mood for; but to best enjoy the pairing, the fish dish needs some strong-ish character.
SE College Division...
college student, dear. have the issues of time and broke-ness often.
Herb Overload
@chiff: I am going to totally agree with each of your contentions on the indivdual herb. EXCEPT i love mint. I'm surprised a couple of you hate it so much... It must be employed in the right way!
Also I love tarragon--same for this one. I think it's lovely, though.
I love flat leaf parsley, as well; it has finished off many of my dishes with its nicely verdant, earthy presence.
Herbs are just amazing things, aren't they?
How to make frozen yogurt?
I had been thinking about fro-yo here lately! I dont make any of that..but I eat tons and tons of regular yogurt and ice cream.. is tre a really good fro-yo from the freezer section?
What's for Dinner? 08/31
@climb: sounds lovely. cant beat gamey backstrap! too wintry for now, i think. although we've had some cool spells that have spurred some comfort food cravings.
beef tongue. help me out.
@pharris: woah...that is quite eerily interesting.
thanks for all the advice, everyone!
good to know I am not alone in my apprehension!
If and when I go at it, I will surely update!!
What's for Dinner? 08/31
@dhorst: haha i love it! I'm doing a grilled cheese-esque sandwich for dinner as well!
...Makes me think I've died and gone to heaven
@pjracz: agreed! one of the most fulfilling feelings one can possibly have --admist family and warmth, of course.
GOAT CHEESE. I dunno..it has an eerily seductive effect on me!
@cake: oh, man: roasted chicken.. i completely agree. one of my favorite things to eat.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Dealbreaker for all the reasons listed above.
You want someone to grow old with (It'll come sooner than you think) and anything as important to you as food is there 2-3 times a day, everyday for your whole life.
Best of Luck in finding the right one - watch their eating habits closely.
;)
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I canNOT stand a picky eater. His attitude will have a negative effect on your love of food and cooking, and might (ohGod) produce picky offspring as well. Life is to be enjoyed in full - to me, especially if you love cooking and eating and have an adventurous outlook on it. Damn right you need someone to fight with over the last piece of cheesecake. Keep looking - somewhere out there is your soulmate who will give you joy in your life.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
it sounds as if the problem is as much how his pickiness presents itself Vs the actual fact of the pickiness.
you need to negotiate how he goes about tasting and reacting. instead of filling his plate hiding the uneaten, he should take a bite only, then only take more of what he will actually eat. He also must accept that if he rejects what's for dinner, he makes his own substitute.
You, OTOH, have to deal with adjusting your daily cooking to reflect some of his opinions. Cooking can be fun, but the day in day out feeding of your partner & family isn't so much about the fun for you as about the fact that people need to eat. Plus, if he rejects your food in favor or cornflakes or PBJ for days on end, you can't be hurt.
if you someday are having kids, he needs to have learned to reject in a low-key fashion so as not to 'teach' his pickiness to them. I won't go so far as to expect him to sometimes noticeable eat something he is known to dislike, to model polite behaviour. But it would be handy.
PS I was in a relationship in which we had very different food cultures. our inability to appreciate each others standards was but one of many problems. But 3 times a day one or both of of us being annoyed or mad or disappointed sure didn't help. If you cant fine some way to enjoy meals together, some compromises, then hang it up now.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
We all have our food preferences. I don't like fruit mixed with foods that are supposed to be savory, savory stuff with raisins, or chocolate mixed with fruit (though separately, I love them both). Other than that, I'll eat anything at least once, maybe twice (I believe it second chances for everyone and everything). I think the thing that bothers you the most is that he doesn't share your passion for food and he doesn't want to even try. The point is: can you live with this? or will it be a thorn in your side that digs deeper with time? If you can't make peace with yourself on this, then walk away. If you can deal with it and have it not affect your dignity and self-worth, then I don't see that it's a real problem.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
My first wife hated eggs, bananas, mustard, my watermelon fruit salad, my top secret recipe 6 grain pancakes, didn't like breakfast in general. Of course, I'm more of a breakfast cook, but her idea of cooking is heating up canned soup (mac and cheese was a highlight of her cooking skills). In fact, when we first got together, the only thing she ate was McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries. (I did get her to eat fresh cut up strawberries.) So when we split, I vowed that I would avoid dating picky eaters.
So of course, my last (I'm planning it that way, anyhow) wife is a great cook - an amateur chef IMHO, but she's vegan (and I'm allergic to the entire legume family). We have great fun trying to create dishes that we can both eat (the entree is always veggies, the protein ends up a side dish for each of us), and she has decided that fried rice with eggs is ok (she is having trouble getting enough protein in her diet). And as a bonus, she loves my pancakes (which I modify by substituting coconut or almond milk for sour milk and/or yogurt), and never complains about my potatoes.
So, as to your problem, drag the bum into the kitchen now and again and make cooking a shared activity - fun-shared, not chore-shared. If he is a good kitchen companion (maybe not entirely his cup-o-tea, but as a special activity), then it will lessen the anti-everything you seem to interpret from him right now, and some of his ideas might end up being useful in figuring out how to feed him when you are cooking without him. If you two can't get along in the kitchen, I'd have to vote for a quick exit strategy.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Every person you meet and get along with very well isn't necessarily your mate. Food is something you will be sharing with this person for life, 3 times a day plus snacks. Not to mention favorite holiday treats... that adds up to a lot of things you won't be sharing, possibly even arguing about. You love to cook, and may see food as love. His constant rejection of your offerings and likes may over time wear like water dripping on stone and erode love and respect. A very long list of verboten foods is a whole different thing than not caring for a few things. Stay friends if possible but think long and hard about developing more intimacy.
BUT- utimately it's your life, your choice.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think if you were really crazy about this person, his food habits wouldn't bother you as much.
It would eventually chip away at her patience, no matter how much she cares for him. You can only overlook something for so long before it ends up being part of an argument that goes, "Yeah, and another thing..."
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think if you were really crazy about this person, his food habits wouldn't bother you as much. And, vice-versa, he would make an attempt to be more adventurous.
My husband was a picky eater when we first started dating. Over time, he's broadened his horizons food-wise, and I save the things he really won't eat to savor when I'm having a meal without him. A good compromise, I think.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I married a picky eater-- not quite as picky as yours, but some of my faves are the things he hates. Over the last 4 years, it's been easy to "cook around him": to use ingredients he likes, or just make sure the stuff he hates is in large chunks so he can pick it out and give it to me. I kind of like have double the mushrooms in my coq au vin! The thing is, for me, there was no consideration of not getting married to him because of his pickiness-- because it was SO obvious that we were meant to be together in every other way. So now I have artichokes when I go out, not at home, and I make a side of kale for just myself, and it's no big deal.
I have another friend who passionately loves her hubbie of 20 years, but they eat separate meals-- hers are gourmet feasts, and his are pizza, hot dogs, and pancakes (he has a severe food issues).
So it can be done! But it sounds like there are many other things that make you unsure... trust your instinct on this!
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I'm sorta torn. To some extent I do agree with tapioca. If food is your passion then there is no real way it's going to work out (and you kinda knew that). I am sorta dealing with the same thing, but the exception is that it's only a couple of things and of those things the problem is that he has eaten canned versions and not fresh versions. So I am slowly converting him. I'm still working on cucumbers and pickles - he's German can you imagine him not liking pickles, isn't there some rule about pickled food and Germans. Anyway - if it were a few things then I'd work around it but he seems pickey like a child and for me that's a big red flag.
Years ago someone told me that you can tell everything about a person by what they eat...she was so right
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Wow, what a thread! And what a smorgasbord of advice! This guy must have really swept you off your feet in every other way for you to have endured his food fetishes for a year. Or, you are selling yourself short that there isn't someone out there who is perfect for you. And someone else perfect for him.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
At this stage of a relationship, I dump this guy faster than a hot potato. For anyone who is a subscriber to Serious Eats, food is important (along with wine and other stuff). So connect with someone that shares this passion not someone who is going to disparage or pick at everything you love about food. Get to the core of the issue and stop fretting about symptoms.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Being with someone who starts out a picky eater but eventually decides to expand his horizons is not the same as being with someone unwilling to budge. One is a victory that opens up a whole new world of flavors - the other is a huge pain in the ass.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
@WannabeTVchef - Food allergies are hardly rare. According to the American Academy of Allergy Asthma and Immunology, approximately 12 million people (or about 1 in 25) have food allergies. And that's allergies alone, not sensitivities or intolerances (like lactose intolerance). While a list of 8 foods cause about 90% of food allergies, who are you to judge what is a 'real' allergy. Obviously not a medical professional with the training to diagnose someone's immune disorder.
I've seen someone swell up like a balloon when a server didn't know the correct answer to if there was garlic in a dish. And personally, I'd love to eat raw tomatoes, but paying for that fantastic salsa with a blistered tongue is not a price I'm ok with.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Canadian Sunshine could end up with a chronically frustrating life with this picky eater. In considering a long-term or even a lifetime relationship, you need to identify the features and characteristics in the other person and in your interactions which will eventually drive you nuts. In several areas of our life together that could describe my 45 years of marriage but he loves my cooking, most of which involves a big bowl or plate of homemade glop du jour. He is enthusiastic about every vegetable except brussels sprouts and turnips, both of which hit his "too-bitter button." I love to shop for food, cook food, share food with others, and eat it myself. Without a welcoming audience at home for my cooking, my life, which is rich in so many ways, would be much poorer. Canadian Sunshine should not settle for this picky eater. They are not compatible.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
It depends of course on just how picky someone is but for the most part, yes it is a deal breaker. I mean someone with acid reflux is one thing or extreme lactose intolerence but when they are the type to special order everything every time they eat out I have no patience. Also I have no patience with "food alergy" person who seems to have an alergy to everything an adult should eat like mushrooms or spinach. Food alergies are very, VERY rare and some of the ones I've heard (garlic allergy, onion allergy) just do not exist. Nut allergies, shellfish allergies, these are real and they are dangerous but please don't tell me that you are allergic to tomatoes and then soak your fries in ketchup.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I have been in a 10 year relationship with a picky eater. When we first started dating, he said he ate everything and enjoyed going to restaurants. He wined and dined me until I moved in, then I found out the truth... It affected my cooking and dining until last year when I said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I cook what I want when I want and if I want to go to a restaurant that doesn't appeal to him, I go with friends or alone. So if you can tolerate this type of lifestyle then continue dating him, if not DUMP him! But trust me, it is hard to live with someone like this when your a foodie and some days you just want to scream...
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
My husband and I have been married for almost 26 years. When we started dating, almost 30 years ago, he came from a "Hamburger Helper" household and I came from a gourmet / European household. He was never quite sure what he was going to be served at my parents, but he was always game. While my side of the family introduced him to strange things like broccoli (WITHOUT cheese sauce) and asparagus, I will have to admit that he introduced me to kool-aid slushies and toasted pb & js.
His job has taken him all over the world and he is more than happy to try anything that is put in front of him. Our kids are the same way - they will try anything.
It's a tough call. Is he willing to be educated? If not, your meals are going to be pretty sucky.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I married the world's pickiest eater. His family does not own a single condiment. Pickles, please, mustard, ugh, ketchup, ok maybe. But I married him anyway. Me with my 37 pie and cake pans. 53 pieces of cookware, 5 food processors and every gadget on the market. Of course I needed that ebleskiver pan! I could open a restaurant. Getting the pic. We solved the problem but two ways. Rule #1 - I would cook and not tell him what was in it. By the way he didn't know about rule #1. So - rule #2 - he would try one new item per month. Surprise, surprise, he has found many things he actually enjoys. And sometimes he actually tries 2 or 3 things per month. He still can't abide mushrooms and it's been a long process but he has been worth the time and effort. Make sure this is the only thing bothering you. It should be somewhere down toward the bottom of the list.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Yes, it's an absolute deal breaker!
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I dated a guy who would dump copious amounts of ketchup or bbq sauce on anything I'd cook for him. Before tasting the food! It was totally disrespectful and showed a complete lack of flexibility (or taste).
You need to be able to communicate about this. Is he really just that picky, or does he have food allergies/diet restrictions that he is too embarrassed to bring up? If there is a specific health restriction involved here, then that is not his fault, but it is his job to communicate this to you. If this is just pickiness, and YOU are a foodie, then as my mother would say NEXT. Move along honey.
Good luck my dear.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
From your post, it seems clear that you care about food. If you think the BF is a keeper, you need to explain to him how important it is for him to try the foods you like. Marriages have lots of tough spots and if you're not in the same place food-wise (which you care about), it's tough to see how this relationship will work long-term. If he's willing to try things, but still doesn't like it, that's one thing. But it sounds like you're a long way away from that place.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Just cut out the middleman and look for someone whose eating habits are not so astronomically different than yours. "Compromising" every so often and having pizza when you want ribs is one thing. Having food habits that are polar opposites is a big thing to overcome. The person who cooks is never afforded the pleasure of watching a significant other enjoy a meal without dissecting it. (I hate this and anyone who does it is not likely to be invited to my home again for food.) The picky eater wants a house full of ramen or some other food over which they obsess, and this will drive the cook crazy. A visit to a "favorite" restaurant turns into a war. It's a big world with lots of people and there is no need to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think the OP needs to stop with some passive agressive food behavior. If you are continuing to make dishes with ingredients he doesn't like, and expecting him to love it just because you want him to, it's never going to work!
So, BF doesn't like mushrooms, but OP loves mushroom risotto, so she's going to make it for dinner. BF's got 3 choices:
1) Refuse to eat it - OP gets angry because she put the work into dinner and he won't give it a chance, gets offended when/if he makes something else
2) Eat it, but pick out the mushrooms - OP gets angry because this is a pet peeve of hers
3) Take a serving, not like it, and not finish it - OP gets angry over wasting food.
There's no way he can win.
I can understand that OP's annoyed because she has to change her cooking behavior due to the relationship. but LOTS of things change for relationships. I don't like America's Next Top Model, my girlfriend loves it. I can deal with watching it because i love her. I like Filk music, my girlfried doesn't... she puts up with it in the car because she loves me.
I hate mayo and ketchup. My GF likes mayo and buys ketchup in those big pump-containers. She likes meatloaf, i think it's a conspiracy. I love mushrooms and could eat them by the pound while she can't even put her revulsion into words. If you love a person, you deal with their preferences, be it entertainment or Food.
Relationships are a give and take
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think this may depend on what food means to you and how you feel about cooking. I'm in the "food is love" camp and although I like cooking, I don't love it, but I do it bc I DO love my own cooking and feel better physically when I eat it most of the time, rather than eating out. Under those circumstances, if I'm cooking dinner at least 5 nights a week for someone who doesn't appreciate it, or confines me to blah meals that take some effort but don't taste that great, I'm going to become resentful, bc I'm either getting a negative response to my love offering (my food) or working pretty hard for a product I don't particularly like. But that's ME. That isn't you.
You're going to have to decide what his pickniness does to you emotionally, and how much positive energy you get from him in other areas. Also, if he were willing to hang out with me in the kitchen and help with meals or clean up, that would be a plus. And you can always get creative, I guess and find ways to cook for him and make sauces, chutneys, side dishes, etc. that you can add to your food to amp things up. So if everything else is good, it could be do-able. But if you're going to resent it every time he rejects your offering (and I'm not saying this judgmentally, I would have a hard time myself feeling otherwise) then your relationship will be stressed about every day of your life and you're going to need to really have good things going on in other areas of it.
I was married to a man who ate everything I made silently, and seldom said anything about it, positive or otherwise. My current husband (the keeper) still raves about my cooking after 12 years. It's just one more wonderful thing about him, and it sure helps to make up for the inevitable annoyances that come with a long term relationship!
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Posted by emilytaylor, November 22, 2009 at 8:37 AM
suggestions from those familiar with vegas.
Posted by emilytaylor, October 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM
young ladies drinking 'sweet wines'--ha!
Posted by emilytaylor, August 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM
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Location: Gulf Coast
About: Have a ridiculous and consuming love affair with food. Among my many interests and pursuits, it is the most ardent love of mine. I'm a college student of business and an independent artist. And a walking food encyclopedia.
Favorite foods: pizza, of the gourmet and 'California' variety. I make them with anything and everything; eat them everywhere. I also believe a simply roasted chicken is near favorite.
Seafood.
Last bite on earth: anything primal and earthy and unctuous, be it very ripe cheese or any 'organ' goodies.

AHHHH I cannot cannot do relationships with picky eaters. Nope. Wayyyy too many implications there. That's just me; it would snuff out a lot of pleasure in my life.