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Portland, Oregon: Oven & Shaker

It seems strange to me that there's only one other comment here. Cathy Whims is kind of a big deal in Portland (James Beard finalist for best chef NW), as is Nostrana. I guess it goes to show how much of a small city Portland actually is, and how insular it is too. Cascadian cuisine really doesn't have that much reach.

If this restaurant had been opened by a name chef in SF or NYC, I imagine there'd be a lot of national curiosity and more chatter in the comments here.

I haven't been to O&S yet, but I do plan on going and comparing it to the original Nostrana pies. A friend of mine just went to Nostrana and was very impressed with the pizza. Based on what she said, it sounds like Nostrana has changed their pizza fairly significantly since I was last there, which would have been at least a year ago. They apparently no longer make their own cheese and it sounds like their sauce has changed as well. I wonder if the opening of O&S influenced the pizza at the original spot...

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@SeriousEats, why are my em-dashes showing up as a's with circumflexes?

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@Tarmac, there's a difference between claiming something is "the best", which implies some kind of overarching pretentious objectivity, and claiming something as "my favorite", which is just a subjective truth. I wouldn't go around saying "Di Fara is #1." But I would say "Di Fara is #1 in my heart."

The fact that the place still gets this much attention—not just from the media, but from commenters here—means something about its place in the pizza world and in New York culture. The myth of Di Fara is just as important as the reality of it.

@John Wozniak, the square slice I had the other day wasn't burned. I don't have any photographic proof of this, so you can either take my word for it or not. On the flip side, as noted previously, it was a little gummy. It was still pretty goddamn tasty though.

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I will defend Di Fara to the grave. The pizza maybe isn't the best, but it's still my favorite place to go (given the time and money). I was there on Saturday. The square slice was a little gummy, but the regular pie I got was outstanding, and actually probably the best crust I've ever had there in terms of the bake and crisp-yet-pliant-ness. Neither of them were burned.

It still can get really smokey in there when oil jumps out of a pan onto the oven floor, but y'know, considering I live 3000 miles away from the joint, I'm willing to suffer through that.

Also the hour (or two hour) wait gives me plenty of time to hang and talk with my friends.

I am one of those shmoes who stands around watching Dom like he's a caged animal, but watching him work is part of why I like going there.

And I can definitively say: if there were no Di Fara, I wouldn't be making pizza today.

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Portland, Oregon: Oven & Shaker

It seems strange to me that there's only one other comment here. Cathy Whims is kind of a big deal in Portland (James Beard finalist for best chef NW), as is Nostrana. I guess it goes to show how much of a small city Portland actually is, and how insular it is too. Cascadian cuisine really doesn't have that much reach.

If this restaurant had been opened by a name chef in SF or NYC, I imagine there'd be a lot of national curiosity and more chatter in the comments here.

I haven't been to O&S yet, but I do plan on going and comparing it to the original Nostrana pies. A friend of mine just went to Nostrana and was very impressed with the pizza. Based on what she said, it sounds like Nostrana has changed their pizza fairly significantly since I was last there, which would have been at least a year ago. They apparently no longer make their own cheese and it sounds like their sauce has changed as well. I wonder if the opening of O&S influenced the pizza at the original spot...

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Video: Why Di Fara Costs $5 a Slice

@SeriousEats, why are my em-dashes showing up as a's with circumflexes?

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Video: Why Di Fara Costs $5 a Slice

@Tarmac, there's a difference between claiming something is "the best", which implies some kind of overarching pretentious objectivity, and claiming something as "my favorite", which is just a subjective truth. I wouldn't go around saying "Di Fara is #1." But I would say "Di Fara is #1 in my heart."

The fact that the place still gets this much attention—not just from the media, but from commenters here—means something about its place in the pizza world and in New York culture. The myth of Di Fara is just as important as the reality of it.

@John Wozniak, the square slice I had the other day wasn't burned. I don't have any photographic proof of this, so you can either take my word for it or not. On the flip side, as noted previously, it was a little gummy. It was still pretty goddamn tasty though.

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Video: Why Di Fara Costs $5 a Slice

I will defend Di Fara to the grave. The pizza maybe isn't the best, but it's still my favorite place to go (given the time and money). I was there on Saturday. The square slice was a little gummy, but the regular pie I got was outstanding, and actually probably the best crust I've ever had there in terms of the bake and crisp-yet-pliant-ness. Neither of them were burned.

It still can get really smokey in there when oil jumps out of a pan onto the oven floor, but y'know, considering I live 3000 miles away from the joint, I'm willing to suffer through that.

Also the hour (or two hour) wait gives me plenty of time to hang and talk with my friends.

I am one of those shmoes who stands around watching Dom like he's a caged animal, but watching him work is part of why I like going there.

And I can definitively say: if there were no Di Fara, I wouldn't be making pizza today.

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Portland, Oregon: Pizza Kingdom Come

There's one bit of news that may or may not be worth looking into (you really should be the judge, I guess). Pizza Depokos, as of this past July, has a new owner/operator: me; including a new pizza menu, new beer menu, new hours, new website, and soon-ish, a slightly re-vamped interior seating area. Also possibly a new name TK.

I apologize if this comes across as a callous attempt a schilling my business, but a little extra attention couldn't hurt...

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Daily Slice: Pizza Box, Portland, Oregon

Nice find! I know where I'm going on Sunday.

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when i wrote "pizzadepkos" i meant, "pizzadepokos." two o's. still at gmail though.

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@olsonmatt

Do it! Compared to Paulie & Caleb, I run a fly-by-night operation, but I'm here for any support I can give you, even if it's just moral support: pizzadepkos at gmail.

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Looking forward to week two!

I bought my ticket to New York—fly in on Christmas. I cannot wait to eat at your place P.G. It tops my list of destinations (well, it's tied with Di Fara, but that's pretty good company).

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Ed's Cosmic Pizza Blab: Cheese

Clearly this is a subjective thing. I'm definitely a fresh mozz kinda person. Ideally it's paired with a Parm-Reggiano to balance the smooth & creamy with the salty-nutty.

But it's contextual too. I'd rather have the aged mozz from a corner slice joint. The aged mozz sits out better and is just more sentimentally satisfying from a corner slice-type place.

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Pizza Delivery and the Economics of Reputation

Mr. Joe Hall hit the nail on the head. While I'm new to running a pizzeria, my financial prospects would be sad-faced if I didn't offer carry out. I would have more unhappy customers from that than customers who were disappointed in the quality of the food. (I'd love to do delivery, and hopefully will in the future, but it's an investment—marketing, hiring an employee, insuring said employee, etc.—so there are legit economic reasons why that's just not happening.)

I put a reasonable amount of faith in customers knowing what they want and being flexible enough to provide it. And while I still have some editorial power (there's no pineapple, chicken, or gluten-free crusts on the menu), I try to exercise it somewhat sparingly and only for things that I feel most strongly about. And part of those decisions are also based on what I'm actually capable of financially and just storage-wise (can't buy a bunch of stuff that I don't have room for or will eventually go bad due to lack of enough customer support).

As a pizza consumer, there are definitely times when I'm more than happy to get a pizza to go from a WFO joint and I just have to assume that my customers are the same. Deterioration in quality be damned—I wanna pizza and I want it at home while watching Scott Pilgrim.

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Daily Slice: Dove Vivi, Portland, Oregon

I haven't had it in a couple years now, but I remember it being a totally excellent thick crust pizza, and that's a style I normally turn my nose up to. Yeah, it's pricey, but the pizza is seriously filling. This place has a good rep for the right reason.

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Pizza Mezzaluna: Decent Pies Without the Fuss

I really like this place. You might call it Neapolitan-New York pizza. If I lived there, it'd be my go-to spot in the area, which is saying something considering the competition...

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White pie with garlic and hot peppers. Simple. I like it. Your pizzas look great and I envy you your in-law's oven.

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My vote is for "What's Burning?" ... it amuses me greatly.

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Daily Slice: DiPrima Dolci Italian Bakery & Café, Portland, Oregon

Ya. That looks like a super tasty slice. Pizza-ing to commence.

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Top This: Cashew Cream Pie (à la Portobello)

cashew cream turns out to be pretty versatile. as Adam noted in the article, you can season it how you please. you can also sweeten it for desserts, use it to make ganache, or as a base for ice cream... strawberries and cashew cream is one of my favorites.

nuts seem to be one of those ingredients that the secret society of vegans know how to use to their full potential, while the rest of the world just puts them in candy bars and trail mix. (though to be fair, cashew nuts are actually seeds, but whatevs...)

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900 Degrees, Almost As Many Pizza Options

I do wonder why pizza-making is still such a male-dominated arena...

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900 Degrees, Almost As Many Pizza Options

There's an interview with Audrey Pagnotta Sherman up on The Feast.

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Do New York Dollar Slices Represent a Unique Pizza Style?

If I were to name this pizza, I'd call it an Imitation NYC Slice.

Regarding cost differences, I would think that the difference in rent between a commercial space in NYC and Kansas City would play a role too. I just imagine that rent at a prime location in Manhattan where you would do such a high volume of sales would be notably more expensive than KC.

I'm always surprised when I walk into a Pizza Schmizza in Portland and see a cheese slice for $3 (for a 1/6th of a 16-inch pie). There's also a distinct lack of slice competition in this town. Still, if you were to buy a whole $16 pizza, $18 wouldn't appear to be out of line...

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I'm not a particularly spiritual person either, but I do believe that you'll find success here. I think what your customers will find, as your audience here has found, is that you care deeply about your food, your business, and your community. Your pizzas will no doubt impress, but it's the intangibles that will bring you the public's loyalty.

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Daily Slice: The Bee Sting at Roberta's Madison Square Park Pizza Cart

If only this cart had been around 5 years ago, I may never have left my job in the Flatiron building... of course I guess the OG Roberta's didn't exist back then either. At least I know where I'm going next time I'm in New York and get to meet up with the old co-workers for lunch...

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Portland, Oregon: All-You-Can-Eat Pizza at Tastebud Farm Dining Room

They do not have a by the slice option, but the all-you-can menu is Sundays only. Their menu changes seasonally and features great local/regional produce. Two of the best things I've had since moving to Portland were their oven-roasted honey-paprika glazed dungeness crab and their oven-roasted asparagus and pancetta.

Their pizzas are good, but their other dishes slay.

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egadman answered "Motorino" to What's Your Favorite New-School Pizza In New York?

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egadman answered "DiFara" to What's Your Favorite Old-School Pizza In New York?

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egadman answered "Yes. It's so, so true" to Is pizza like sex — good even if it's bad?

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egadman answered "Yes" to Are you a pizza purist?

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egadman answered "No way!" to Egg pizza: Way or No Way?

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egadman answered "Yes. I currently work in a pizzeria/the pizza industry" to Do you work — or have you ever worked — in a pizzeria or the pizza industry?

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egadman answered "Fresh" to Do you prefer canned or fresh mushrooms on your pizza?

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egadman answered "No" to Do you salt your slices?

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egadman answered "A month" to What's the longest you've gone without eating pizza?

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egadman answered "Yes, it's the only way I can get anyone to agree on what we order" to Do you order half-and-half pizzas?

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egadman answered "No. Pizza über alles!" to Do you stop eating pizza when it's hot outside?

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egadman answered "No f****n' way!" to Pineapple Pizza: Way or No Way?

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egadman answered "Depends on what kind it is. (Feel free to elaborate in the comments.)" to Dessert Pizza: Way or No Way?

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egadman answered "No way!" to Chicken on a pizza: Way or No Way?

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egadman answered "Salad" to Do you order sides with your pizza (and if so, what?)

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egadman answered "I don't! Why mess with a good thing?" to What seasonings do you shake on your slices?

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egadman answered "1,000–2,500 miles (1,600–4,000 km)" to How far have you traveled for pizza?

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egadman answered "Yes" to Is it pizza if it doesn't have cheese?

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egadman answered "Yes! " to Do you make pizza at home?

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egadman answered "I like my crust nekkid and eat it plain" to Do you eat and/or dip your pizza crusts?

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egadman answered "Yes! Pizza needs some charring" to Do you like a 'charred' pizza, or do you consider it 'burned'?

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egadman answered "I dunno. They have their place on occasion" to Do you do white pies?

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egadman answered "Root beer" to What do you drink with your pizza?

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egadman answered "Uncooked (cooks on pie in oven)" to Your Pizza Sauce Preference: Precooked or Uncooked?

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