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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

My first wife hated eggs, bananas, mustard, my watermelon fruit salad, my top secret recipe 6 grain pancakes, didn't like breakfast in general. Of course, I'm more of a breakfast cook, but her idea of cooking is heating up canned soup (mac and cheese was a highlight of her cooking skills). In fact, when we first got together, the only thing she ate was McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries. (I did get her to eat fresh cut up strawberries.) So when we split, I vowed that I would avoid dating picky eaters.

So of course, my last (I'm planning it that way, anyhow) wife is a great cook - an amateur chef IMHO, but she's vegan (and I'm allergic to the entire legume family). We have great fun trying to create dishes that we can both eat (the entree is always veggies, the protein ends up a side dish for each of us), and she has decided that fried rice with eggs is ok (she is having trouble getting enough protein in her diet). And as a bonus, she loves my pancakes (which I modify by substituting coconut or almond milk for sour milk and/or yogurt), and never complains about my potatoes.

So, as to your problem, drag the bum into the kitchen now and again and make cooking a shared activity - fun-shared, not chore-shared. If he is a good kitchen companion (maybe not entirely his cup-o-tea, but as a special activity), then it will lessen the anti-everything you seem to interpret from him right now, and some of his ideas might end up being useful in figuring out how to feed him when you are cooking without him. If you two can't get along in the kitchen, I'd have to vote for a quick exit strategy.

From Talk

My favorite part of the Thanksgiving meal...

@julea
I'm with you - all my friends know that I'll be bringing the "shape of the can" - it has become a minor competition to see who can dump the cranberry sauce out in perfect "can" shape. However, my favorite part is the other thing no one else I know likes but me - mincemeat pie.

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

This is not good. Nearly every turkey I've had in the past 10 years (unless I cooked it myself) is waaaaay too salty. This cannot make that trend better. I "brine" my turkey in the same thing I baste it in: a knarley mix of bacon grease (rubbed lovingly inside/outside/forced into every crevace) and orange juice. No extra salt added. Baste every 30 minutes or so while cooking. Turkey comes out juicy, the skin is crunchy and tangy and perfect (according to my friends who like the skin best - not me) and the stuffing even soaks up some of the flavor. And those of us who have not been inured to the excess salt of a junk food diet can eat it without soaking it in fresh water first. Of course, my vegan wife is not so thrilled, so I ask my friends to store up bacon fat for me - no bacon frying is one of the compromises (but not without benefit - she makes the best curries you could ask for).

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

I'm a regular Mt Dew drinker (allergic to coffee and cola - need to get my caffeine somewhere!), but in Mexico I couldn't find any. After getting over the caffeine withdrawl, I started drinking Squirt. Yum. Tasted just like carbonated, slightly sweetened grapefruit. And wouldn't you know - it listed grapefruit extract as an ingredient, along with, of course, sugar. So this is my new favorite drink. I get home but a case, and yuck. No sparkly grapefruit flavor and that icky bitter aftertaste that I now realize is a constant is American sodas. I figure the HFCS is the culprit for the aftertaste, and the total lack of grapefruit anything whatsoever explains the rest of the problem. Fortunately, I have left my caffeine needs behind, so Poopsi completely lost a customer with that one.

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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

My first wife hated eggs, bananas, mustard, my watermelon fruit salad, my top secret recipe 6 grain pancakes, didn't like breakfast in general. Of course, I'm more of a breakfast cook, but her idea of cooking is heating up canned soup (mac and cheese was a highlight of her cooking skills). In fact, when we first got together, the only thing she ate was McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries. (I did get her to eat fresh cut up strawberries.) So when we split, I vowed that I would avoid dating picky eaters.

So of course, my last (I'm planning it that way, anyhow) wife is a great cook - an amateur chef IMHO, but she's vegan (and I'm allergic to the entire legume family). We have great fun trying to create dishes that we can both eat (the entree is always veggies, the protein ends up a side dish for each of us), and she has decided that fried rice with eggs is ok (she is having trouble getting enough protein in her diet). And as a bonus, she loves my pancakes (which I modify by substituting coconut or almond milk for sour milk and/or yogurt), and never complains about my potatoes.

So, as to your problem, drag the bum into the kitchen now and again and make cooking a shared activity - fun-shared, not chore-shared. If he is a good kitchen companion (maybe not entirely his cup-o-tea, but as a special activity), then it will lessen the anti-everything you seem to interpret from him right now, and some of his ideas might end up being useful in figuring out how to feed him when you are cooking without him. If you two can't get along in the kitchen, I'd have to vote for a quick exit strategy.

From Talk

My favorite part of the Thanksgiving meal...

@julea
I'm with you - all my friends know that I'll be bringing the "shape of the can" - it has become a minor competition to see who can dump the cranberry sauce out in perfect "can" shape. However, my favorite part is the other thing no one else I know likes but me - mincemeat pie.

From Serious Eats

The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

This is not good. Nearly every turkey I've had in the past 10 years (unless I cooked it myself) is waaaaay too salty. This cannot make that trend better. I "brine" my turkey in the same thing I baste it in: a knarley mix of bacon grease (rubbed lovingly inside/outside/forced into every crevace) and orange juice. No extra salt added. Baste every 30 minutes or so while cooking. Turkey comes out juicy, the skin is crunchy and tangy and perfect (according to my friends who like the skin best - not me) and the stuffing even soaks up some of the flavor. And those of us who have not been inured to the excess salt of a junk food diet can eat it without soaking it in fresh water first. Of course, my vegan wife is not so thrilled, so I ask my friends to store up bacon fat for me - no bacon frying is one of the compromises (but not without benefit - she makes the best curries you could ask for).

From Serious Eats

Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

I'm a regular Mt Dew drinker (allergic to coffee and cola - need to get my caffeine somewhere!), but in Mexico I couldn't find any. After getting over the caffeine withdrawl, I started drinking Squirt. Yum. Tasted just like carbonated, slightly sweetened grapefruit. And wouldn't you know - it listed grapefruit extract as an ingredient, along with, of course, sugar. So this is my new favorite drink. I get home but a case, and yuck. No sparkly grapefruit flavor and that icky bitter aftertaste that I now realize is a constant is American sodas. I figure the HFCS is the culprit for the aftertaste, and the total lack of grapefruit anything whatsoever explains the rest of the problem. Fortunately, I have left my caffeine needs behind, so Poopsi completely lost a customer with that one.

From Serious Eats

The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

I don't know if this has already been addressed, but...Can one brine in salt substitute, such as Nu-Salt, and have the same impact? I'm on a reduced salt diet as well as being diabetic. Any thoughts?

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

@MaggieN

Maggie - you can brine a bird and cook it exactly the same way you normally would, whatever method you choose, and it will come out juicier and better seasoned.

You can even brine the bird in a double layer of oven bags in a roasting pan in your fridge.

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

Oh, dear, I'm new to this site, and I have a question that may bring sniffs of disdain from you all, but here goes: I really don't like turkey and try to have as little to do with it as possible. Which means, in the past I've always used the Reynolds Oven Bags to cook the thing, and they've turned out passably well, I guess. (I'm not a good judge.) But because I'm stuck with this major bird--fresh-killed from a local farm, I might add--I would like to try and make it a bit more tasty; hence my interest in the brining, which I do think would help.
My question is, if I brine, can I still use the Oven Bag to cook the turkey in, or will that just give me steamed cardboard?
Thanks for any advice--and Happy Thanksgiving

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

@chascates: This will be my third year (Thanksgiving and Christmas each year) brining a Heritage bird and I have not noticed any increased gaminess. I am not a big fan of gaminess, so I think I probably would have noticed!

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

Thank you Kenji! I absolutely trust your view about the salt vs. aromatics, so I will follow your suggestion for a 6% solution of salt brine and go ahead with the open-air chilling as well.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

@yayfood: That sounds about right to me. Open-air chilling helps dry out the skin which makes it crisp up faster in the oven.

I really wouldn't expect much in terms of flavor from the aromatics added to the brine though - not much flavor penetrates during brining because the flavorful molecules need to compete with the salt for space in the turkey, and the salt ions usually win because of their charge. The fact that they are added to the brine cold also means that not much flavor extraction will take place. But I supposed it couldn't hurt either way.

Just remember to keep everything cold while it's brining!

Good luck.

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

@ Kenji - It's getting down to the wire now, and I'm about to put my bird into the brine. I was thinking of following the suggestion in this this article (halfway down the page, labeled "Best Way Brined Air-Chilled Turkey") from the San Francisco Chronicle that recommends brining for 12-24 hours and then dry chilling, uncovered in the refrigerator for another 12-24. The article says it makes for a moist and flavorful bird, but I'm concerned about ruining my bird. It's a 19 lb organic bird, so I was going to shoot for 24 hours in the brine and 24 drying. What are your thoughts on this method?

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

Thank you Kenji for the answer to my question.

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

@neeki
Thanks for the correciont. It's a small point, but accuracy is definitely important!

@cathy5256
No need to brine pre-injected turkey, which is essentially already brined from the inside and out. The most you'll do is succeed in making it a little bit saltier, but that's about it.

From Serious Eats

The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

Please can someone tell me if I can brine a turkey that's already injected? I have a Butterball turkey and want to try brining this year. I can't find any untreated birds in my area. Will brining it ruin or improve it?

From Talk

Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Dealbreaker for all the reasons listed above.
You want someone to grow old with (It'll come sooner than you think) and anything as important to you as food is there 2-3 times a day, everyday for your whole life.
Best of Luck in finding the right one - watch their eating habits closely.
;)

From Serious Eats

The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

I've been brineing turkeys for years now. It makes a huge diference in the texture of the bird

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

hey kenji, in your "how it works" section, second paragraph, you mention "cell walls." cell walls don't exist in turkeys, they have cell membranes...which you mentioned later on anyway.

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The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics

Thank you so much for explaining in detail the process of brining. I brined my Thanksgiving turkey for the first time last year and had a great result- a flavorful juicy turkey!

From Talk

Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

I canNOT stand a picky eater. His attitude will have a negative effect on your love of food and cooking, and might (ohGod) produce picky offspring as well. Life is to be enjoyed in full - to me, especially if you love cooking and eating and have an adventurous outlook on it. Damn right you need someone to fight with over the last piece of cheesecake. Keep looking - somewhere out there is your soulmate who will give you joy in your life.

From Talk

Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

it sounds as if the problem is as much how his pickiness presents itself Vs the actual fact of the pickiness.
you need to negotiate how he goes about tasting and reacting. instead of filling his plate hiding the uneaten, he should take a bite only, then only take more of what he will actually eat. He also must accept that if he rejects what's for dinner, he makes his own substitute.

You, OTOH, have to deal with adjusting your daily cooking to reflect some of his opinions. Cooking can be fun, but the day in day out feeding of your partner & family isn't so much about the fun for you as about the fact that people need to eat. Plus, if he rejects your food in favor or cornflakes or PBJ for days on end, you can't be hurt.

if you someday are having kids, he needs to have learned to reject in a low-key fashion so as not to 'teach' his pickiness to them. I won't go so far as to expect him to sometimes noticeable eat something he is known to dislike, to model polite behaviour. But it would be handy.

PS I was in a relationship in which we had very different food cultures. our inability to appreciate each others standards was but one of many problems. But 3 times a day one or both of of us being annoyed or mad or disappointed sure didn't help. If you cant fine some way to enjoy meals together, some compromises, then hang it up now.

From Talk

Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

We all have our food preferences. I don't like fruit mixed with foods that are supposed to be savory, savory stuff with raisins, or chocolate mixed with fruit (though separately, I love them both). Other than that, I'll eat anything at least once, maybe twice (I believe it second chances for everyone and everything). I think the thing that bothers you the most is that he doesn't share your passion for food and he doesn't want to even try. The point is: can you live with this? or will it be a thorn in your side that digs deeper with time? If you can't make peace with yourself on this, then walk away. If you can deal with it and have it not affect your dignity and self-worth, then I don't see that it's a real problem.

From Serious Eats

Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

Our local Publix tells me that Pepsi Throwback will soon be off the shelves, being only a summer item. Is that true?

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

Something I forgot to say (>.

The change from saying "Sugar" on the label to "Sucrose" is probably due to a recent change in regulations that states that the manufacturers have to use the scientific name for the ingredient. Drinks with added vitamins have ingredient lists that look horrifying until you look them up and discover that it's just the vitamins. :)

here's a list of common vitamins if anyone's interested
http://www.pubquizhelp.com/sci/vitamin.html

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

Sucrose or table sugar is obtained from sugar cane or sugar beets.

Sucrose IS real sugar :) heh.
"Sucrose is made from glucose and fructose units: Sucrose or table sugar is obtained from sugar cane or sugar beets." - www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/546sucrose.html


I know a lot of people that travel to mexico regularly, some of whom lived there for many years. Everyone always says mexican coke is better, now i know why.

So that awful nasty taste in coke and pepsi is the sweetener? =/ Eweh.. The only soda i really like is Root Beer...
Looks like I missed my chance to try this throwback stuff but I'm not sure I really care that I don't like soda :) Better for my bones and fat cells. Hehe.

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

Are they REALLY stopping the Throwback sodas on June 13? Are they crazy? BTW be VERY wary of Passover Coke. For the past two years they have NOT used sugar - they have used SUCROSE. They simply will do whatever they can to avoide spending any extra money on sugar. They stink.

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

I found the Pepsi singles in the convenience store in our building at 1600 Smith, Houston, Texas.

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

Has anyone beenable to purchase the throwback. I have tried my local Shoprite and Stop and Shop to no avail. Help I want to try it before the deadline.

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Pepsi to Use Real Sugar in 'Pepsi Throwback' and 'Mountain Dew Throwback' in April

There is also a bottling plant in West Jefferson, NC that bottles Dr. Pepper AND Mountain Dew with sugar instead of HFCS. I drive there all the time on the way to visit my brother to pick up cases of both. It's $15.75 for a case of twenty-four 12oz bottles. I used to get Dr. Pepper shipped to me from the Dublin plant all the time, but since I discovered the NC plant I don't any more, of course. Here is the address:

2614 NC Highway 163, West Jefferson, NC 28694

Here are a couple of pics I took of the place:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2140512&l=a0bda9499c&id=1175850700

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2140513&l=0591a31ca2&id=1175850700

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About: I am definitely a foodie. Lots of allergies, which has forced me to learn to cook (or suffer with a bland and repetitive diet).

Favorite foods: Pie (strawberry, cherry, peach, raspberry, blackberry, mince) w/ whipped cream, Waffles, Turkey dinner, Watermelon fruit salad on shredded wheat with cream, Coconut milk curried veggies, Plum baked salmon with mango salsa

Last bite on earth: Strawberry pie - crust of flour, butter, water, and lemon juice, then spread with mashed strawberries with a sprinkle of sugar soaking the crust in juice, piled high with fresh strawberries, covered with whipped cream.