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Top This: Salmone Pizza (à la Spacca Napoli)
@Rose,
if the Salmon is branded by Caputo than it is ok .. otherwise I'm not sure the Neapolitan Association would approve that pizza to be authentic ...
What to Expect at a Neapolitan Pizzeria
Joke aside, You're in the NY area right?
I'm sure if you ask one of the pizzaioli that always wear Caputo (Adriani, Caporuscio) they would know how to get you one ...
What to Expect at a Neapolitan Pizzeria
@dmcavanagh,
I see you really want a Caputo hat .. wait for Mr. Starita to come off the boat ... he is another "soldier" on Caputo payroll ... I'm sure he will bring few hats and aprons in his luggage ...
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Scott's Pizza Chronicles: Fried Pizza
Fried dough definitely tastes good, but it can be a very unhealthy option.
Most of the commercial places do not change the oil as often as you would do at home (for obvious reasons .. $$$$) , therefore fried pizza product maybe be very bad for your health if not properly done.
The best way to enjoy fried pizza?
make at home. It's easy and fun.
And yes, the real montanara in Napoli is usually made at home.
Fry the dough, then add tomato sauce, grated cheese and basil ...
Enjoy ... and do not forget to change the oil ... burnt oil is bad for your health !!!!
Top This: Salmone Pizza (à la Spacca Napoli)
@Rose,
if the Salmon is branded by Caputo than it is ok .. otherwise I'm not sure the Neapolitan Association would approve that pizza to be authentic ...
What to Expect at a Neapolitan Pizzeria
Joke aside, You're in the NY area right?
I'm sure if you ask one of the pizzaioli that always wear Caputo (Adriani, Caporuscio) they would know how to get you one ...
What to Expect at a Neapolitan Pizzeria
@dmcavanagh,
I see you really want a Caputo hat .. wait for Mr. Starita to come off the boat ... he is another "soldier" on Caputo payroll ... I'm sure he will bring few hats and aprons in his luggage ...
What to Expect at a Neapolitan Pizzeria
@britalian,
By your description I'm not sure you had Pizza in Napoli. Maybe Naples, Florida.
Pizza long more or less a meter, rectangular shaped and able to feed 4 or 6?
Well that is definitely not pizza in Napoli, Italy.
Let's distinguish here.
If you go in Napoli (and by that I only mean the city of Napoli not the surrounding towns) there is only one kid of pizza and is the one that in the USA is called Neapolitan Pizza.
For a Neapolitan, pizza is only one.
Anything else is not Pizza.
In Napoli if you ask for a Pizza you will get what you can eat (with the due differences) at places like Keste, Motorino, Donatella, Pizzarte and so on in NY:
10-12 inches in diameter
Individual Size
Wet in the middle .... in other words what Adam described in the Article.
The only difference is that in the USA you call it Neapolitan Pizza in Napoli we call it Pizza.
If you were downtown Napoli, you most likely had what is usually called Focaccia al taglio. If they called it Pizza, it was not in Napoli.
But if you are in Napoli ( I stress in the city of Napoli, downtown) there is no way that some one would call pizza something that is rectangular and could feed 4-6 people ...
@Adam,
Neapolitans in Napoli, eat pizzas as they one you described in this post.
Again, Pizza in Napoli is what in the USA is called Neapolitan Pizza.
Only one difference from your post (which few already noticed) is the way you eat it.
You can sit down, but you can also eat on the go folded al "portafoglio"
One thing to make it clear to Many is that Napoli is a city. Not a Region.
Many people make the mistake to call Napoli the entire region of Campania.
That is a huge mistake especially when it comes to food.
Pizza (or Neapolitan Pizza) is an exclusive product of the city of Napoli,
or at least it was until 10-15 years ago.
If you are in Salerno (30 miles away from Napoli) or in Avellino (25 miles away) people from the USA still think to be in Napoli and do not understand that in those cities culinary tradition are completely different.
What they call pizza in those places is something that a Neapolitan would not even look at ...
Neapolitan are very proud of their food, especially when it comes to Pizza and Mozzarella ... but Mozzarella is another issue on his own ...
Top This: Montanara (à la Forcella)
That looks so good ... I want it ...
The Food Network's 50 States of Pizza
@Meredtith,
well taken ... at first I did not realize they were picking one pizzeria per state, I thought they just picked 50 pizzerias around the country ... So I expected few in NY and none in Alabama or Mississippi , for example ...
The Food Network's 50 States of Pizza
Is Keste the only New York pizza parlor in that list? Am I right?
Don't get me wrong, Keste is great and it deserves to be there ...but what about all the other great NY pizza?
Anthony Bourdain on Neapolitan Pizza
That video shows a great particularity of Neapolitan pizza.
Did u see the amount of sauce and oil and cheese floating in the plate?
Well, a Neapolitan would use the crust to clean up the plate, and that is maybe the best part of the pizza ... nothing better than grease wet crust dipped in an ocean of oil tomato and mozzarella ...
Unfortunately Neapolitan pizza in the USA are almost never that rich in suace and oil.
I believe the reason is that otherwise people would complain that the pizza is soggy and wet ... but let me tell you, all that "sogginess" really makes neapolitan pizza stand up !!!
And by the way, AB is eating pizza at Pellone.
Funny enough here in the USA we know of all these Master Pizzaioli and 7th - 8th generation pizzamakers and meanwhile they are practically unknown in Napoli.
Here they are celebrated as TV stars, in Napoli none knows them.
Pellone instead (which most of you may have never heard of) is most likely one of the best and most known pizzeria in Napoli ... Congrats to Bourdain to show us a place that is a Pizza-Mecca for Neapolitan in Napoli ...
Forcella: Yeah, You Kinda Need to Get Here
@Giuio,
I'm sorry if you felt insulted by me calling you Roman.
I know that everyone in this business wants to be Neapolitan (it's like a seal of authenticity, like VPN, APN and so on) , but being a Roman, it's not that bad after all ...
Joke aside, I was pointing at the fact that a true Neapolitan would have never thought of Carbonara pizza ...
and look at your comment now ... you are a Roma Fan?
Ok, you are confirming that you can never be a true Neapolitan, a true Neapolitan would never be a Roma fan ... it's like for a New yorker to be a Red Sox fan !!!
BS aside, I think you make a great pizza and I can't wait to try your montanara ...
The 10 Best Pizzas in NYC
I'm sorry to say, but I find it at least silly to include a place among the top 10 as Artichoke and say on a good day.
Consistency should be one of the top evaluation criteria.
Forcella: Yeah, You Kinda Need to Get Here
WOW that Montanara pizza looks good .... I can't wait to go try it.
I have to agree with mnapoletano, montanara is made by many in Napoli and not just two or three places.
Actually Montanara is the most common pizza to make at home in Napoli.
In its original version the dough is fried and topped only after with a tomato sauce and grated Parmiggiano. No baking in the oven.
No matter what CREDIT to GIULIO ADRIANI to have introduced this delicacy to NYC ... congratulations, I will visit you soon ...
On the other hand I have to express all my disapproval for that carbonara pizza ... What the hell is that? Eggs on pizza?
That clearly brings up Giulio's romans origins.
He is not from Napoli, but from Rome and carbonara is a famous Roma pasta dish. Pasta, not pizza !!!
Last but not least, yes I'm also tired to see those Caputo logos everywhere on these Neapolitan pizzaioli ...
They seem to be Caputo Soldiers sent in the USA to spread the good word ... I strongly believe in marketing and advertising, but I also believe that when it is too much it becomes disturbing ...
Sugar Rush: Nutella Pizza at Luzzo's
@ratbuddy
Your comments is abit unfair.
First of all a small jar of nutella costs 4-5 dollars.
But what about rent costs?
Waht about labor costs?
What about Insurance, utilities, and so on?
Food cost is only a small portion of all cost involved whne you are running a business.
'Slice' Poll: Dessert Pizza - Way or No Way?
Pear and Nutella seem to be a fine combination ...mmm can wait to try ...
I Just Had to Try It
That's what I love about this blog ... It constantly goes from one extreme to the other ...
One day you (we) all debate about serious pieces of culinary art and how a couple inches difference in the opening of an oven could possibly affect the the cooking of the pizza (which I find to be BS anyway) ... and here we are the day after getting crazy on a piece of GARBAGE .. pizza with Pineapple from Domino ...
I LOVE IT !!!
I LOVE IT !!!!
Dear Slice: Some Neapolitan Oven Facts
Can anyone take measurements to see if they are the same or not?
It should be easy !!!!
Interesting enough, I read there are strict rules to respect in order to make Vera Pizza Napolitana, including the size of the oven and its mouth.
If Donatella's oven has a much smaller mouth, can they still call it Pizza Napolitana?
Is she going to come out with her own style as Nate Applem is doing at Pulino?
that would be interesting ...
Congratulations and Thanks, Serious Eaters
CONGRATULATIONS .. you guys deserve every bit of it.
Well done !!!!
Video: 'Food Curated' Points Its Lens at Paulie Gee
Passion, Love, Soul ... is this a pizzeria or one of those 1888-sex xxx hotine?
It's incredible how these days terms like Passion and Soul are used when it comes to pizza ... it almost sounds like MARKETING ... talk of Organic, talk of Passion, talk of Love and People will come and eat at your place...
I did not know that Motorino was a VPN joint. Is it true?
Can anyone confirm?
NYC: Piola, Union Square
@godot
We may need a round table to clarify everyone's idea.
Let me try to be clear on mine.
I would differenciate and separate the 2 topics.
One thing is to talk of Neapolitan Pizza and a different thing is to talk of good Pizza.
They are 2 different and separate topics.
In my opinion there are some distinctive and objective factors for you to differentiate a "true" Neapolitan pizza from a not Neapolitan Pizza.
On the other hand, It is completely up to you and your taste to define what is a good pizza.
This leaves us with for 4 different combinations:
1) Good - Neapolitan pizza.
2) Bad - Neapolitan pizza.
3) Good - Non Neapolitan pizza.
4) Bad - Non Neapolitan Pizza.
In the case of Piola, I would have called it a Bad - Non Neapolitan pizza.
What I was saying to Adam in my previous post is that he should not have called it a Bad Neapolitan Pizza and condemn the all genre.
Let's get to my personal taste, for example.
In a previous post on keste/luzzo I said:
"If Neapolitan Like keste and Motorino (both good in my opinion) do not make for you guys, I would suggest for you to go to Luzzo.... it's the Absolute best !!!"
I think this post is perfectly in line with what I said above and is not contraddictory at all with other comments I made.
I think keste and Motorino are definitely "more" Neapolitan than Luzzo.
I think that Keste and Motorino make good pizza but I prefer Luzzo.
I do aknowledge that keste is more authentic than Luzzo, but I prefer luzzo which is not "authentic" Neapolitan.
One thing is being able to understand what is Authentic Neapolitan, a different thing is what I may like.
NYC: Piola, Union Square
@ADAM:
Your comment is a clear example of the existing confusion in America when it comes to Neapolitan Pizza.
That is not a Neapolitan Pizza.
It may be good or bad (I never tried it) but it is not a Neapolitan Pizza.
If you buy a FAKE Louis Vitton Bag on canal street, would you ever compare it to a real Louis Vitton Bag?
if it is a poorly made bag, would you ever say that you don't like Louis Vitton Bags (including the real ones)?
You can't go in this "not-neapolitan" places, have a bad pizza and then say that you don't like Neapolitan Pizza.
In order for you to understand what is Neapolitan and what is not Neapolitan, you should really fly to Napoli.
Only in that way you can understand the difference between the real and the fake.
Of course, you may still decide no to like Neapolitan pizza, but at least you will know what to compare it to.
Nate Appleman on the Frenzy Surrounding Pulino's Opening
"The Hype surrounding Pulino is ridicolous?"
IS HE KIDDING ME?
This sounds a bit like Jim Lahey .
Do you remember how upset he got for receiving so much attention from the NY Times?
Come on, He is such a celebrated chef.
He won the James beard award.
He become a celebrity chef going on Food Network.
Mc Nally is among the most succesfull restaurateur in NYC.
What did he expect? To be ignored?
In all honestly looking at the pictures of those pizza that's what he would deserve!!!
A little bit Neapolitan, A little bit New heaven, A little bit NY ...
We can define his pizza style as the "WORLD ATLAS" Style.
Hype and beautiful celebrities aside, Pulino will be as all other Mc Nally restaurant.
A scene to be seen for "beautiful" people with "just" decent food ...
Keste so what did I miss ??
If Neapolitan like keste and Motorino (both good in my opinion) do not make for you guys, I would suggest for you to go to LUZZO ... it's the absolute best !!!
NYC Wine & Food Fest Planning a Blow-Out Pizza Party Event for 2010?
@tonycalzone:
by "REAL" italian I meant people born and raised in Italy.
Having an Italian last name is not the same than being born and raised there.
Pizza is an Italian dish, isn't it?
Like for other ethnicity, I believe food is part of a culture of a population.
To make a great dish ( either is pizza or matzahball) you have to be part of that culture.
And when it comes to pizza (this is my personal opinion) italian do it better.
That's all.
Paulie Gee's Opening Tonight in Greenpoint
Can't wait to try.
those pizza look great!
Good luck
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Fried dough definitely tastes good, but it can be a very unhealthy option.
Most of the commercial places do not change the oil as often as you would do at home (for obvious reasons .. $$$$) , therefore fried pizza product maybe be very bad for your health if not properly done.
The best way to enjoy fried pizza?
make at home. It's easy and fun.
And yes, the real montanara in Napoli is usually made at home.
Fry the dough, then add tomato sauce, grated cheese and basil ...
Enjoy ... and do not forget to change the oil ... burnt oil is bad for your health !!!!