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From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

Ed's 12/27/07 citation of the Bent Spoon in Princeton (and well deserved) leads me to inquire if there are other quality sources of gelato in the US.

I'm talking about real gelato, made from fresh eggs, not emulsified bases.

Gelato Lab. Otto. Grom (imported from Italy). All in NYC. (I don't like Ciao Bello, sorry.) CapoGiro in Philadelphia. Any other contenders in the US?
And don't cite some restaurant that serves it as dessert (like Otto). I'm inquiring about true gelaterie that specialize in that divine concoction, as found at San Crispino (in Rome), Neri (Florence), Berthillon (okay, glace, in Paris).
We can now get pretty good coffee in America. It's time to start encouraging locally made gelato (and sorbets) as well.

[ Who knows, maybe after that we can aim for great cornetto or croissant, everywhere!]

From Talk

Old Tyme Ginger Beer?

Is this still made? I haven't seen it in about five years, and initially assumed that my local supermarket no longer carried it. So I began to seek it elsewhere, all to no avail.

Is it available, anywhere? If not, does anyone know how such a well established, highly regarded brand could disappear? Only a sordid tale of litigation and countersuits would explain its absence on the scene.

Bring back Old Tyme Ginger Beer!

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From Talk

traveling to NYC alone in january

Depending on where you are, and how full you are, I suggest a quick stop at BB Sandwich Bar
120 W 3rd St between MacDougal St and Sixth Ave Greenwich Village

Not exactly a Philly Cheesesteak nor a Chicago-style Italian Beef (and I wish we had some of those around here). Google it and read the NY Times article about the chef/owner, whose shop offers one sandwich ONLY, with your choices being Eat In or To Go and beverage. They may offer another vendors cupcakes, but that is not mandatory.

When they run out, they close. And it is terrific. Unique. And about $5 last time I was there.

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

Another case of Life Imitating Art. As fans of the Steve Martin film "The Jerk" may well recall, one of his many schemes was a product he called "Pizza in a Cup." Hope his attorneys can successfully argue his case for invention!

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

Dear Doodoolemonque--

Shipping gelato essentially ruins the product --- since it has to be frozen solid in order to survive FedEx. Great gelato is served after it has been freshly made. Freezing it solid makes it inferior-- though passable, if tempered. That is one reason why the Ciao Bello pints sold in freezer cases don't measure up to the product sold in their NY shops. And also why the best places don't ship.

When I was in Rome last summer, I was surprised to see that San Crispino (one of the very best) does now offer to pack some for fly-away, but they claim its transit-life is only four hours. Fine for EU members, but not for those of us destined for the US, unless you are also preparing a great snack for your in-flight meal or stopover in Paris/London, etc., en route home.

Guess it is better than none, but not the real deal.

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

Dear BobBob--

Most Florentines (not tourists) prefer Neri, which is a block or so from Vivoli. But as is the case with many things, too many busloads of guidebook clutching tourists can detract from an otherwise pleasurable experience. Both are very good.

De gustibus, non disputandum est.

From Talk

Refused entry by Jean Georges

A few questions for the uninitiated:

1. Could you be seen through the door (was it clear glass or wooden)?

2. Do you look like a Killer on the Loose, a terrorist, etc. or can we assume that you looked harmless?

3. Do you think they were monitorring your approach, and didn't like what they saw?

4. Would you care to return to JG once again, and have someone videotape your attempted entrance? Or successful entrance, whereupon you could pose your question to the hostess or maitre'd to be captured on video and posted on YouTube?

I'm pretty sure that I've never been turned away from a restaurant BEFORE I ever crossed the threshhold! And I qualify as an unsavory character who wouldn't think of paying that much for a meal.

From Required Eating

Barcelona: The Ham Capital of the World

Although this may be well known to many, it is helpful to have a handy map of the Mercat Boqueria in hand, when confronted with so many choices. Happily, they have a nice website, which includes this floorplan

http://www.boqueria.eu/Eng/index.php

When you rollover a booth, a window pops up displaying "what's there." If they had a cross reference, it would be superb, but it sure will come in handy for planning the quick visit.

From Required Eating

Win Two Passes to the Big Apple Barbecue Party

Well, back about 30 or 40 years ago, when I lived in Memphis, I used to go to the Rendezvous with the owner's son, who was in my high school class. We'd sit at the bar (being several years underage) and he would ply us with samples while we two teenagers consumed with robust delight.

But--- and I say this with all due respect-- my favorite BBQ ever was from any of the now defunct Memphis chain that served pulled pork sandwiches and had a handful of outlets around the city, places like Loeb's, Pig 'n Whistle, Topp's-- all great, all cheap, all only five to ten minutes away.

Several times a month we'd consume mounds of smoked pork on the requisite five inch bun, redolent in hickory aroma, squirted with a few extra doses of runny sauce (not the thick gunk sold in groceries) and always topped by a dollop of a mustardy cole slaw. And held together (briefly) by a toothpick.

Little did I know that this sort of heaven was not available everywhere. Done in by Mickey D, Booger King, etc. and rising real estate costs.

From Required Eating

Win Two Passes to the Big Apple Barbecue Party

Well, back about 30 or 40 years ago, when I lived in Memphis, I used to go to the Rendezvous with the owner's son, who was in my high school class. We'd sit at the bar (being several years underage) and he would ply us with samples while we two teenagers consumed with robust delight.

But--- and I say this with all due respect-- my favorite BBQ ever was from any of the now defunct Memphis chain that served pulled pork sandwiches and had a handful of outlets around the city, places like Loeb's, Pig 'n Whistle, Topp's-- all great, all cheap, all only five to ten minutes away.

Several times a month we'd consume mounds of smoked pork on the requisite five inch bun, redolent in hickory aroma, squirted with a few extra doses of runny sauce (not the thick gunk sold in groceries) and always topped by a dollop of a mustardy cole slaw. And held together (briefly) by a toothpick.

Little did I know that this sort of heaven was not available everywhere. Done in by Mickey D, Booger King, etc. and rising real estate costs.

From Required Eating

Meeting Mario

Too bad that you didn't ask Mario about Barilla. While it is supposedly "the best selling pasta in Italy," apparently the Campbell Soup Company, the American corporation that uses the name here in the states, alters the recipe, so we get Barilla in name only. Not the same as one would get in Italy.
If that's true, I'd like to know why we can't get the real deal.

From Talk

What happened to Shopsin's on Carmine St?

A Soft-Shell Crab Quits Carmine St.

By FLORENCE FABRICANT
Published: December 20, 2006

KENNY SHOPSIN can be so irascible that you might doubt him when he says he's closed his famously quirky breakfast and lunch cafe in Greenwich Village.

And his regard for the sense of community that he perceives at the Essex Street Market on the Lower East Side, where he says he will move soon, might seem a bit strange coming from a man known to say of prospective diners he refused to seat, ''They're nothing but strangers.''

But the closing of the cafe, Shopsin's, at 54 Carmine Street, rumored for months, came to pass on Sunday. And early next year he will move to the Lower East Side with what he says is about a tenth of the toys, games and trinkets that cluttered the restaurant.

''We were hoping it was more just talk, like it's been over the past few months,'' Calvin Trillin, who profiled Mr. Shopsin in The New Yorker in 2002, said of the closing. ''We're sad about it leaving the neighborhood. My daughters regarded it as an extension of their kitchens.''

Mr. Shopsin moved to Carmine Street about four years ago, after a run of more than 30 years nearby at 63 Bedford Street. His lease has six years to go, but he said that with 3,000 square feet of space, three times what he had at the previous location, he had decided he needed either more staff or a smaller place.

''We've always been a family operation,'' he said. ''We don't have the staff for this much space. Here, we had trouble keeping the community feeling we had in the old place. I think we'll find more of it in the market. It will be more intimate.''

That intimacy may require a shoehorn. In the Essex Street Market, an indoor arcade from the La Guardia era that has recently had a resurgence in business, Shopsin's will shrink to about 350 square feet.

Anne Saxelby, the owner of Saxelby Cheesemongers in the market and a longtime Shopsin's devotee, said that when Mr. Shopsin's daughter Melinda visited her stand recently and talked about wanting a smaller space, she suggested that the Shopsins consider moving there.

''We're better off with 15 seats than with 40,'' said Ms. Shopsin, who helped run the restaurant, ''and we'll make the new place work.''

Mr. Shopsin is a self-taught cook who calls his approach primitive. But he may have to trim his vast menu of zany soups and globe-trotting combinations, like Burmese hummus, often concocted on the spot. Authentic or not, many of the dishes were surprisingly delicious.

He said he had no idea what would be on the new menu. ''I'll cook a little of this and a little of that and see what sells,'' he said. ''We can buy stuff in the market, and we may do takeout.''

One thing he said he might not have is rules: Shopsin's was famous for the arbitrariness of its owner. Customers could not copy another table's order as a shortcut to dealing with the menu. Cellphones and groups larger than five were not permitted.

That cantankerousness could boil over.

Kate Humphrey, owner of the Art of Cooking, a cookware store in Greenwich Village, recalled that she was so taken by the food on her first visit to Shopsin's that, despite its generally acknowledged seediness, she took her mother there on her second visit.

As they were eating, one of the Shopsin children entered on in-line skates and picked up a plate to serve. The Shopsins began yelling at each other. ''It was utter chaos, and everyone laughed,'' Ms. Humphrey said. Mr. Shopsin's wife, Eve, who died in 2003, then stepped to the middle of the room and silenced the customers with a vulgarity.

But regulars played along as privileged devotees of a place that was no less clubby than the Chelsea lounge Bungalow 8. That clubbiness, which diminished after the first move, may be further challenged by the next.

Sunday brunch will be no more. When the place reopens -- sometime in January, according to Mr. Shopsin, but probably a month or so later, as the market's administrators see it -- the hours will be Monday to Saturday from 8 a.m. to 4 or 5 p.m.

It will have a few seats and a counter -- a marble counter.

''The architect asked us why we would have a marble counter in the Essex Street Market,'' Ms. Shopsin said. ''Of course it will be marble. It's what we had in the old place.''

Responses to Comments by cocopazzo

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

I'd like to share some information about expanding a cone pizza concept around the globe. Does it mean that pizza in a cone becomes as popular as a hamburger?..

Here is the examples:
Russia: www.pasta-la-vista.com or http://i-food.livejournal.com/
Greece: www.pizzacon.gr
Korea: www.сonepizza.co.kr
USA: www.crispycones.com
www.kornetpizza.com
Turkey: www.kornetpizza.com
Italy, number of countries in EU, New Zealand, Arabian Emirates, Russia, Japan:
www.konopizza.com
Just Italy: www.pizzahands.com
India: www.pizzacorner.com (pizza-Conizza)
South Africa: www.flavourliciousfoods.com/index.html
More sophisticated version from Austria: www.finestfingerfood.com
Undetected country: www.pizzacono.com (USA?)

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

I tried one. It tasted like a soggy pizza roll that you buy frozen in a box at the grocery store. Based on monicalups comment, they may be better when they are hot and fresh, but I'm still skeptical.

A NY tasting is certainly in order - count me in!

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

Adam,
We are looking forward to schedule a piza cones tasting with you in NY, please contact me so we could schedule time and place.

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

@Oakland Aaron: Ohohh. Pizza Burrito. Sounds like something I could make at home. But BrianPrestonCampbell is probably right in saying it's an oversized Pizza Roll. That or a cylindrical calzone.

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

Oakland Aaron sez, "coming soon: pizza burrito." Mmmmm. Oversized Totino's pizza roll! I can almost feel my tongue burning just thinking about it.
http://www.pillsbury.com/products/pizza/frozen/Totinos-Pizza-Rolls-Snacks.htm

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

ChristineB -- I was about to say Cafe Istria too! I just love it. My college dorm is only a block away. All of their baked goods are great too.

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

I third Capogiro -- I actually went there tonight. It's incredible.

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

I haven't been impressed with Dolcezza at all. The Gelato Bar in the National Gallery of Art was surprisingly good, though. Maybe my expectations of Dolcezza were just too high.

Frost Gelateria in Tucson, AZ is pretty good.

From Talk

Great Gelato. Not Ice Cream. In the U.S. Where? Whose?

I had pretty good gelato at the Espresso & Gelato Bar in the National Gallery of Art (East Building) in Washington, DC. They offer 16 flavors of gelato and a full espresso bar.

From Slice

Pizza Cones Make U.S. Debut in K.C. Mall

Along not entirely dissimilar lines, the downtown Oakland branch of local gooey dough/over-topped chain Mr. Pizza Man has had a threatening sign up for a few weeks: "coming soon: pizza burrito."