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dkim68: The July/August 2008 issue of CI is for blueberry pie and bakes it for the first 30 minutes at 400, then decreases the temp to 350 for the remaining 30-40 minutes. I made it last fall and the crust didn't get too dark. But usually I just make it to bake plain with sugar & cinamon, it's that fantastic!!!!!!

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

dkim68: The July/August 2008 issue of CI is for blueberry pie and bakes it for the first 30 minutes at 400, then decreases the temp to 350 for the remaining 30-40 minutes. I made it last fall and the crust didn't get too dark. But usually I just make it to bake plain with sugar & cinamon, it's that fantastic!!!!!!

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

stef717: In the original recipe that subscribers can download from the CI website, it gives 3 additional steps for the recipe beyond what is printed here, and they may help you in your pre-baking endeavor. I've copied and pasted them below for you:

3. Adjust oven rack to lowest position, place rimmed baking sheet on oven rack, and heat oven to 425 degrees. Remove dough from refrigerator and roll out on generously floured (up to ¼ cup) work surface to 12-inch circle about 1/8 inch thick. Roll dough loosely around rolling pin and unroll into pie plate, leaving at least 1-inch overhang on each side. Working around circumference, ease dough into plate by gently lifting edge of dough with one hand while pressing into plate bottom with other hand. Leave overhanging dough in place; refrigerate until dough is firm, about 30 minutes.

4. Trim overhang to ½ inch beyond lip of pie plate. Fold overhang under itself; folded edge should be flush with edge of pie plate. Flute dough or press the tines of a fork against dough to flatten it against rim of pie plate. Refrigerate dough-lined plate until firm, about 15 minutes.

5. Remove pie pan from refrigerator, line crust with foil, and fill with pie weights or pennies. Bake for 15 minutes. Remove foil and weights, rotate plate, and bake for 5 to 10 minutes additional minutes until crust is golden brown and crisp.

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

Probably line the pan with the dough, brush it with a slightly beaten egg white and prick the bottom. Line with parchment or wax paper and fill with dry beans, pushing them up the sides. Bake in a 425° oven for 15-20 minutes, remove paper and beans, continue baking for 5-15 minutes more or until desired color is achieved.

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

I'm glad to hear the lard substitution turned out right. I did that too.

Now, I'm trying to figure out how to prebake the crusts for a pumpkin chiffon pie. Any suggestions?

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

Made the crust Sunday, changing it from shortening to lard, using salted butter instead of unsalted (and omitting salt from the recipe), and using vanilla vodka instead of regular (mainly because we didn't have any regular!).

I wrapped it in plastic wrap and let it sit until last night, and it worked perfectly -- no stickiness at all.

And the final result? Delicious and flaky.

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

I used to always use the grocery store pie crusts because really, they aren't that bad, and they are consistent, and easy. I tried this recipe just for fun on an early thanksgiving pumpkin pie, and it was great! If anything, I'd probably make just a bit more crust than normal as I ran a little short, but I just used less filling (I use the big glass pie pans.)

I almost think it was better the next day!

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Oh - I also wanted to add that I made my crusts completely by hand, with an old-school bladed pastry blender, and it still worked beautifully.

Yay pie crust!

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I'm so glad this thread is still alive and kicking. Yay pie crust!

- Kenji

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Just made two batches for my Thanksgiving tester pies - beautiful, beautiful crust. Perfect.

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I've used this crust and had perfect results the very first time I made it. The second time was a failure but that was because I didn't have vodka and tried to substitute scotch. It completely overwhelmed the taste of the pie. So mad at myself for that one!

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

Forgive this long comment! I'm hoping it will be helpful. My daughter and I made three savory pies yesterday (we made beef pies, like a Cornish pasty--finely diced beef, grated potatoes and onions). Both my daughter and I make very good pie crusts--I have 50 years of experience--but we are often frustrated at the inconsistencies and the problem of just the right moisture to flour ratio to have dough that rolls out easily, is thick enough to work with and make nice fluted edges, and is both tender and flaky.

We followed this recipe and were thrilled with the results. Our "test kitchen" experiments in the process might be useful for responding to a couple of the comments here. 1.) Use very cold, unsalted butter as in the recipe. If you use salted butter for a pie crust, plus the recommended salt (or even reduced amounts or no salt) it will be too salty tasting for many people. 2.) We tried the full amount of sugar and also reducing the sugar. Even for a savory pie, we liked the full amount of sugar best. 3.) We used the full amount of water/vodka and also reduced amounts, to experiment. Yes, it looks sticky with the full amount, but remember that some of that moisture will go away in baking (that is the function of the alcohol.), so the extra is needed to have a moist,flaky crust, not a less moist, crumbling one. The extra moisture also allows for the use of extra flour in rolling, which is very handy. 4.) Chill this dough for several hours and work fast with it. The high fat content dough benefits from being very firm when you're starting to work. Otherwise you'll have a very soft dough that rolls out nicely but is difficult to pick up and place on the pie tin. (That is one advantage of a pastry cloth. You can pick the whole thing up and put it in the fridge for a moment to chill and firm, then go back to work on it.) This dough can be re-rolled easily without toughening, but still, work lightly. Use plenty of flour to keep it workable--we found it didn't dry the dough out or toughen it, as can happen with regular crusts. (The alcohol again) 5. This recipe gave us plenty of dough for easy rolling to the right size and with more than enough for a pretty fluted edge--no need for patching and no skimpy edges that need foil protection to keep them from browning too much. We chilled them about an hour before baking so the edges would keep their shape.

Taste test: All the pies were wonderful but the one made exactly according to the recipe--exactly--was voted the best by the taste-testers who didn't know how we had made them. Not much difference in any of them, but still, the exact recipe--full amount of liquid and sugar--was considered the most flaky, tender and flavorful. As a side note: Using a food processor made this very, very easy (We also followed the number of pulses as given in the recipe). But, it can be made without a processor if the same cutting and distributing motion is used to combine flour and fat. Baking at 325 degrees for about 1 1/2 hours cooked the meat and potato filling perfectly and produced a uniformly beautiful, golden brown and delicious tasting crust.

Try this recipe for your next pie and make it exactly according to the recipe, without fear. You can do it differently the next time if you want, but the first time, trust the recipe--developed by people with tremendous knowledge and skill and with a scientific not gimmicky reason for their suggestions--and I think you'll be very happy with the results.

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Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough

cjavel, that worked! Baking it per your instructions above resulted in a perfect golden brown crust. Thank you very much!

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Thanks, cjavel. I'll try that. Another thing that probably affected my results was I did not chill the dough prior to baking. I think if it's at room temperature it probably turns darker much sooner, as well as not being as flaky as it could've been had I put in the oven cold.

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