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Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
At the end of the day, HFCS just tastes awful, in my opinion. Way too syrupy/sickly sweet.
I think we consume entirely too much sugar in this society anyway, but at least in most other countries it's natural sugar and it's not in almost EVERYTHING as it is here.
Regardless, educated consumers suffer the burden of knowledge, and everyone has the right to an opinion, but I also have the right to not eat your genetically modified rubbish.
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Just Relocated to D.C., Need Help Sourcing Local Produce, Meat, Bread
Hey there,
Regarding gutreaction's references to the Fairfax Whole Foods and Wegman's, they are certainly worth the trip.
To make it there easily, jump on the beltway and take it to 66 West. Exit off onto Route 50 West, and then take the exit for West Ox Road. You'll pass right by a Safeway here, and the Fair Oaks Mall will be on your left.
If you turn left here, you can go straight towards the Wegman's.
If you keep going on West Ox and turn right onto Fair Lakes, the first left is the shopping center with the Whole Foods.
Emeril is often there during the week shooting his show, which can get a bit annoying as they'll block off parts of the store for the crew, but it's kinda cool.
And it's certainly the best Whole Foods I've been to.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
At the end of the day, HFCS just tastes awful, in my opinion. Way too syrupy/sickly sweet.
I think we consume entirely too much sugar in this society anyway, but at least in most other countries it's natural sugar and it's not in almost EVERYTHING as it is here.
Regardless, educated consumers suffer the burden of knowledge, and everyone has the right to an opinion, but I also have the right to not eat your genetically modified rubbish.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
check out these anti-HFSC and pepsi spoof advertisements, hilarious!!!
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
New research published in Environmental Health has revealed that high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is contaminated with the toxic heavy metal mercury. That means that many of the products using HFCS may also be contaminated with mercury.
"Most people don't know how high-fructose corn syrup is really made. One of those processes is a bizarre chemical brew involving the creation of caustic soda by exposing raw materials to pools of electrified mercury in a large vat. Through this process, the caustic soda gets contaminated with mercury, and when corn kernels are exposed to this caustic soda to break them down, that contamination is passed through to the HFCS.
Another toxic chemical, glutaraldehyde, is also used in the production of HFCS. It's so toxic that consuming even a small amount of it can burn a hole in your stomach."
Read more at: http://www.naturalnews.com/025442.html and
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000702_high_fructose_corn_syrup_mercury_contamination_Corn_Refiners.html
Give me good old sugar any day...
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
First, mad props to ilovebutter for breaking it down in such an accessible way. 3.9 GPA for good reason!! *applause*
Anyway, I would feel better if I knew what happens to the corn to make it HF... is it born that way (even through genetic engineering, which, in the olden days they called hybridization), as in are the actual kernels grown sweeter compared to other corn, or... is there some kind of toxic chemical added during refining to bust up the molecules and tip the balance to bump up that 5% of additional fructose? It would make a difference to me.
But, barring the scary artificial intervention above, based on the apparent chemistry of it, I don't see a huge problem. And, before I get lynched for that, yes -- there IS too much sugar everywhere. Duh. Extra caution in every way is totally advisable. That said, I can see the industrial appeal for soda makers wanting a smooth consistent syrup that stays dissolved when the drink is cold. I can also see why it's in baked goods... because... sweeter sugar means more excited yeast, no? Resulting in fluffier bakery?
And using corn is cool! Go USA! We know corn, we brought corn to the world! Sugarcane, a little trickier, but we do have dibs on Hawaii, so, I suppose we have a friend there. I suppose we could also squeeze beets or carrots for it, but... that seems like it would be more difficult (involving even bigger nastier factories). If we weren't doing it, surely there would be someone selling us high-fructose rice syrup at a huge markup. Everyone acts like trying to make money is evil. I'm sure that all but the top 5% of the people who work for those companies are people with families, who care what happens to them. Until we can switch to socialism, it has to be that way.
Anyway, I'm not going to bring my own organic ketchup and home-baked buns to an Indians game. And if I'm somewhere where we shouldn't be drinking the water, I'd now feel better off picking a soda with HFCS over a diet soda with artificial sweeteners, which I couldn't have said BEFORE I read this article. (...and ILB's insights.)
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
funny, I thought I'd read it all after the first ten or twelve, but Johnnyc, ya got an interesting point. Lotsa people that didn't know they should be asking that question are now asking that question: what's wrong with hfcs?
And the youtube mock-up was pretty good, too...
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
HCFS Contails mercury:
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=59203968973&h=7n6QC&u=Dk3qX
It is Fructose. Baad: Fructose requires a different metabolic pathway than other carbohydrates because it basically skips glycolysis (normal carbohydrate metabolism). Because of this, fructose is an unregulated source of “acetyl CoA,” or the starting material for fatty acid synthesis. This, coupled with unstimulated leptin levels, is like opening the flood gates of fat deposition.
Linked to Diabetes:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm
Diabetes is a KILLER. People with HIV live longer.
HCFS is bad for the economy:
orn farmers get the majority of the funding given to farmers each year from Congress, mostly because they are horribly organized and hire lobbyists to bribe politicians into voting for pro-corn bills and spending. Imagine if all of that money was being spent giving children food education, or education in general. With all of the money going into these factory farms, very little of it is going to your local farmers and thus, very little of it is going into your local economy. Even if you buy it at your neighborhood grocery store, the dollar gets passed away from you, and toward people who don’t even need more money to begin with.
HCFS is bad for the environment: after cotton, the most pesticides in the US are used on corn. All of those pesticides get passed along to you through soda, candy, peanut butter, and even some crackers and salad dressings! Yum… Plus they get passed along as run-off into oceans and water systems that people use for drinking and bathing.
HCFS sucks, and the people that made those ads are evil asshats, like those Corporate Terrorists from Monsanto that sued the guy who put "No growth hormones!" on his milk cartons.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
I disagree with a lot of you people in the comments section saying that the corn refiners association is protected by the first amendment in the same way a person is - but I do believe the content of these commercials is within their rights however misleading they try to be.
Fortunately, the corn refiners association basically screwed itself over by spending 30 million+ on their national campaign. It has been notoriously mocked on the internet and only brought the HFCS issue to to forefront of the news and our collective consciousness. The commercials seemed really fake and corporate - not exactly the way to convince people nowadays.
They have paved the way for new beverage companies to emerge and fill the consumer need for an alternative to high fructose corn syrup - I've seen many new websites dedicated to this issue, like stophfcs.com and vivi
as the issue gets more attention and more products emerge as alternatives, people will begin to shift towards healthier products.
Just Relocated to D.C., Need Help Sourcing Local Produce, Meat, Bread
Binlu - when you were in CVille, were you more apt to shop around Pantops, the Corner, or further West? I live in Northern VA, and a constant complaint is that there isn't anything like Foods of All Nations nearby. I would keep an eye out for farmer's markets (there's a good one at Dupont on weekends), plus H-Mart or El Grande International Market for other goods. Best of luck with the CV/DC transition!
Just Relocated to D.C., Need Help Sourcing Local Produce, Meat, Bread
Check out the Eat Well Guide at www.eatwellguide.org - they have a huge collection of fresh, local food in the Washington D.C. area, and across the rest of the country. If you think eating locally is important, it's a great resource for finding farms, farmers markets, CSAs, and restaurants and stores that focus on selling meals and ingredients from local sources.
Also, if you're heading into Washington D.C. this upcoming week for the inauguration, they just came out with a guide that helps find fresh, local food en route instead of the normal fast food. Hope that helps!
Just Relocated to D.C., Need Help Sourcing Local Produce, Meat, Bread
There are actually a few fish markets near where I live, located right on Maine Avenue near where it turns into M st SW. I haven't actually visited them yet, but they're just a cluster of open stalls, so at least it looks promising.
Just Relocated to D.C., Need Help Sourcing Local Produce, Meat, Bread
to piggyback this thread, what about good fish mongers in the area? I'm particularly interested in the Northern VA area, and specifically for sushi-grade fish. The only places I know of are the asian markets (H-mart, grandmart), and the one fish monger in Great Falls (Cannon). Any others?
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
These commercials have actually RAISED awareness of high fructose corn syrup. Is that what they intended? The month that the campaign started, people googled "high fructose corn syrup" roughly 6 times more often than they had been in the last few years.
They brought this to the attention of millions of people who didn't even realize there was a problem! Check out my analysis: http://www.thereluctanteater.com/2008/10/proof-sweet-surprise-high-fructose-corn.html
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
Made a youtube video mocking the ad, starring ym brother and his wife!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYiEFu54o1E
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
Personally, I have seen an easy reduction in my weight since eliminating as much HFCS as possible. I also think that - at this point in the price of gasoline - it could be useful to start a movement demanding that HFCS be removed from food products so that more corn can be refined as ethanol. The greediness of the corporations could go into overdrive thinking about the profits to be gained from adding HFCGA - that is, High Fructose Corn Gasoline Additive - to our cars rather than adding HFCS to our bodies.
Just a thought.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
Buttonwillowsix I have to agree.
HFCS is added to things like "low fat" or "fat free" to improve the mouth feel, and appearance after the fat has been removed or reduced. All of the folks who rush to the store to buy low fat or fat free substitutes thinking that they're doing the right thing are just pumping their bodies full of HFCS. Nasty nasty stuff.
We now read all the labels on food - and we don't buy a lot of processed or prepared food! As a cancer survivor I want to "stay a survivor" and by filling my belly with processed foods I think I lessen my chances.
If I want corn I'll eat it as corn or cracked corn. I don't want genetically modified corn based sweeteners. I'll stick with my butter, cream, and food as close to the earth as possible. Buying fresh and organic (whenever possible) is the best way to fly. Oh, we do go out of our way to buy PURE CANE sugar with as little processing done to it as possible! And, it does taste so much better.
If the corn industry (AKA government funded industry) can get away with this; what's next???? No thank you!
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
I just saw a HFCS ad that I found disturbing - maybe you all have already seen it, so forgive me, I don't watch much TV.
Some soccer moms are at a picnic table and the African-American soccer mom offers the Caucasian mom, who is marginally but noticeably less attractive and more uptight, a cup of punch from the 2 gallon jug she is holding. The Caucasian mother demurs on account of the HFCS and says to the other soccer mom, haven't you heard about HFCS? And the African American soccer mom very sweetly but sternly says, Yes, that it's as sweet as sugar, that it's totally natural, bla bla bla. And totally shames the Caucasian woman into accepting a cup of punch!
I think a LOT of market research went into producing that ad.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
The verdict is still out as to whether HFCS is any worse than sucrose. But whatever your thoughts about HFCS, the only thing natural about it is that the molecules originated in a kernel of corn. It's like saying a plastic bottle is natural because the molecules originally came out of the ground (from petroleum). To call it "natural" is really disturbing on so many levels.
We've given up HFCS containing foods. It's a case where we would rather err on the side of caution. Even if HFCS is processed exactly the same as sucrose (and the data is inconclusive on that from what I've seen), HFCS is found in the worst of foods. Our diet is so much better for having gotten rid of the junk that contains it.
For those interested, I have a blog where I chronicle our experiences giving up HFCS and eating healthier - and offer product reviews and HFCS-free alternatives: http://alifelesssweet.blogspot.com/
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
I think two things to note about HFCS are
1) if it is in your food, that food is probably heavily processed and bears little resemblance ingredient-wise to the substance it is meant to represent in your diet (a great example of this is sliced bread or hamburger and hot dog buns, many of which are often made with HFCS and a host of other things that are harder pronounce.)
2) it can be lurking in places where most non-foodie people don't think to look for it. I have a diabetic relative who basically avoids sugars and is trying to eat a lot of salads. Some salad dressings have HFCS as the second ingredient (and I found one in her pantry where it was the FIRST ingredient.)
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
I'm amused at the Corn Refiner's campaign more than anything. The radio ads are ubiquitous here in Chicago, but I realized how far they were going when I saw the comment that popped up in our local newspaper's article on a local independent soda bottler. (And by the way - Dynamite Springs' grapefruit-lemon soda is da bomb!)
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
After the other HFCS thread, I went on a hunt for it in my kitchen, and I found it in exactly two items -- ketchup and sweet pickle relish. It may be hiding in something else that I didn't check, but if it is, it's something I'm not likely to use much of, or use often. So the claim that it's in 90% of the food supply or that it's impossible to consume a moderate amount seem a bit overboard. And before the thread, I hadn't been reading labels to eliminate it, it just doesn't seem to be in the foods I have on hand. And believe me, I'm not a saint when it comes to food. I like to eat.
For people who consume vast amounts of soda, I can see that it might be an issue, but it's not that hard to stay away from the stuff if I did it by accident. Unless someone can point to something in the kitchen I didn't think of looking at, I'm pretty sure that there's not much more HFCS than the stuff I already found.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
I can't understand those of you who are defending HFCS. Bottom line: it's bad for you. It's in every-f'ing-thing. To only consume a "moderate amount" would be an impossibility given the average american diet. Don't get me started on the corn industry. All this BS cornoganda reminds me of big oil running those pro-environment ads. Please.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
@disbelief11--I lost 10 lbs and have kept it off for 4 years by avoiding HFCS. I have not changed any other diet or exercise habits. I also lost inches from my middle (where I tend to carry my glorious fat cells).
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
All I know is that when I started buying products without HFCS in the ingredients list, I felt less hungry. While I know that could be for other reasons, I'm suspicious that it was the HFCS that was stimulating my appetite...why, how convenient, so that I would buy more food!
I'd also like to ask the corn people what their response is to the idea that it's the genetically modified corn that's killing off the honeybees.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
They kind of remind me of old cigarette ads. Notice that none of the people in HFCS ads are overwieght, and no one in a cigarette ad has yellow teeth. Both appear to be the picture of health--but what lies beneath...
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
HFCS is creeping its way up to the Great White North as well. I usually buy sugar-free rye bread, but I decided to go after the multigrain bread, and the ingredients listed: "sugar and/or glucose/fructose". I've since noticed soft drinks, granola bars, and other baked goods (except for Dare cookies - try the double fudge) contain this notation, so we, as consumers don't even know whether it's sugar or HFCS. I can usually taste it in soft drinks and other goods where sweetness is the primary flavour, but its use as an additive is really unnecessary.
I've since reverted to buying house brand colas and drinks, which always contain only sugar, because they taste so much better.
Pro-HFCS Ads: Do They Bother You?
@Cookieeater: Don't even get me started on why butter is better... :)
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Hey there,
Regarding gutreaction's references to the Fairfax Whole Foods and Wegman's, they are certainly worth the trip.
To make it there easily, jump on the beltway and take it to 66 West. Exit off onto Route 50 West, and then take the exit for West Ox Road. You'll pass right by a Safeway here, and the Fair Oaks Mall will be on your left.
If you turn left here, you can go straight towards the Wegman's.
If you keep going on West Ox and turn right onto Fair Lakes, the first left is the shopping center with the Whole Foods.
Emeril is often there during the week shooting his show, which can get a bit annoying as they'll block off parts of the store for the crew, but it's kinda cool.
And it's certainly the best Whole Foods I've been to.