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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

Ugh. Nasty.

I live on the same block as a BK. I've been home sick, and with no other options, I went there yesterday.

I asked the MANAGER who was helping me, "what are apple fries?" He answers, "just what they sound like." Me: "so they are deep fried?" Him: "no."

Okay, whatever, I'll take those and a chicken sandwich.

They are cut up pieces of apple, in a plastic baggy, in a fry box with a tube of low fat caramel sauce.

The apple did not taste right. They must have been those big ugly red apples and they have an off taste. My dog got the majority of the "fries." I did like the caramel sauce, but not worth the $1.49.

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Fast food regional items - do you try?

The Dairy Queen in North Minneapolis has grits. Being a Minnesotan, I was a bit surprised.

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Food-related books that aren't cookbooks.

I've been reading The Best Food Writing of 2007. It is really great. It has some recipes, some reviews of restaurants, and some general food topics. Something for every foodie.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

Ugh. Nasty.

I live on the same block as a BK. I've been home sick, and with no other options, I went there yesterday.

I asked the MANAGER who was helping me, "what are apple fries?" He answers, "just what they sound like." Me: "so they are deep fried?" Him: "no."

Okay, whatever, I'll take those and a chicken sandwich.

They are cut up pieces of apple, in a plastic baggy, in a fry box with a tube of low fat caramel sauce.

The apple did not taste right. They must have been those big ugly red apples and they have an off taste. My dog got the majority of the "fries." I did like the caramel sauce, but not worth the $1.49.

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Fast food regional items - do you try?

The Dairy Queen in North Minneapolis has grits. Being a Minnesotan, I was a bit surprised.

From Talk

Food-related books that aren't cookbooks.

I've been reading The Best Food Writing of 2007. It is really great. It has some recipes, some reviews of restaurants, and some general food topics. Something for every foodie.

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Your restaurant dessert of choice?

Dessert wines and bread puddings are my downfall.

From Recipes

Dinner Tonight: Bourdain's Mushroom Soup

I made this recipe last weekend and it was wonderful. Super easy to make and really good. My family loved it.

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What do you do with sour cream?

Chili is perfect with a bit of sour cream.
Goulash
Potatoes, cooked any way, especially roasted with caviar on top of the SC
Dips

We use full fat at times, but usually low fat or vegan. The tofutti stuff is really good.

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Minneapolis eating advice

Do not have a business dinner at Chino Latino if you hope to speak to the people you are with. It is loud, and frankly, not very good.

A great breakfast place is the Birchwood Cafe. Very tasty fresh food. Also good Maria's Cafe. They have the best corn pancakes in the world.

For dinner, I can't recommend The Craftsman enough. I just love it. They have amazing dinners, including pizzas, hamburgers and full on entrees. I recommend the venison burger and their different fish entrees. The atmosphere is classy and parking/busing is easy.

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Does the World Need More Fancy-Pants French Restaurants?

Yes, we need more fancy-pants French restaurants, at least here in the Midwest. In fact, there is a drug front furniture store across the street from my house that would be a great spot. Or the empty building a block down. Or the little grocery across the street that sells drug supplies.

But really, maybe we don't need more fancy-pants ones, we have enough here in Mpls, but a couple more would be good for me. More places to eat.

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Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Two Peter Luger Steaks

Whatever my husband is making, or, if I have to choose, a NY strip.

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Cook the Book: 'The Martha Stewart Living Cookbook: The Original Classics'

I must have because I look at her website all the time, but I can't recall anything in particular.

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Company Holiday Party...

Nothing. I'm a government worker. Nothing for my husband either, he works for a government agency.

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What has been your proudest cooking moment?

I made a four course meal for 8. I worked my butt off and it came out really well. I was so nervous I don't really know what anything tasted like, but I still hear it was good.

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Superstitious Meals and Practices?

Herring on New Years is a must, but I have no idea why. Of course, I love it all year, so it is no big deal.

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Mince(meat) Pie

I've made it from scratch. I used suet. It is 10 times better than any store brought brand.

Next year I'm using the real way of making it which uses lean beef and suet. I'm very excited

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True Confessions of a Trader Joe's Virgin

The first time I went was a disaster. It was just a week after the first one opened here. It was a 20 minute wait for parking. The store was packed, and being that no one knew what to buy, it was basically the slowest moving line that started at the front door and ended at the checkout.

I walked in, looked around, said "hell, no" and waited outside until my friends finished.

I go a couple times a year now for beer and wine, mostly. It just isn't very close, but I did go today and got some great light chevre.

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How to Make Fancy-pants Restaurants Cheaper: One Critic's Radical Ideas

In the past week I've spent between $2 and $278 for meals for me and my husband. For the top dollar, we got everything: amuse-bouches, breads, waiters telling us every ingredient, a luxurious setting, etc. If less would have been offered at this restaurant, but was cheaper, we would have found the more expensive competitor with all the bells and whistles. For $2, we got two Mexican pastries in a carry out place. Exactly what we wanted for $2.

People want exclusive, top end, outrageous restaurants. They also want cheap takeout pastries, and everything in between.

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Budgeting for a week's worth of meals

We spend tons of money on food. I have no idea how much. Part of the problem is that food is very expensive in Minnesota. Part of the problem is all our meat is local/organic which equals expensive. Another issue is that I forget stuff all the time, so run down to the local store. That equals ghetto tax. And then we eat out a lot. I bet we spend $150 a week on average for two adults. Very sad.

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Cook the Book: 'Beard on Food'

Iron Chef!!! It was the first food network show I ever saw and I loved it. It was so crazy, but in the end the food looked so good. From there I moved on to trying new foods and eating at new restaurants. That led to me learning how to cook beyond the standards my parents made as a kid to gourmet type food. If it wouldn't have been for those tapes of the Iron Chef, I'd probably be eating ramen tonight.

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Do you hurt your stomach's feelings?

My husband has some ongoing tummy problems. He was just saying the one thing that always settles his stomach is a beer. Unfortunately, it isn't always appropriate to drink one.

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Hops...How much is too much?

I love super hopped up beers in the summer, but in the winter, I want a darker, more malty beer.

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A Map of Regional Foods

The Jucy Lucy in Minneapolis is missing. How dare they pass us up?

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Dinner Tonight: Bourdain's Mushroom Soup

This recipe is pretty awesome. I made this using the liquid from rehydrating dried mushrooms I needed for another recipe and enough water to get to the 4 cups of stock called for. I also used shallots in place of the onion and substituted shiitake mushrooms for half the button mushrooms (ok, so I used the outline of the recipe as an excuse to clean out my freezer, pantry and fridge). I drizzled the sherry called for in the recipe over the individual servings in the bowls and added a small dollop of sour cream and a sprinkling of chives. This soup is totally going into the regular rotation!

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Dinner Tonight: Bourdain's Mushroom Soup

This recipe was as advertised: (1) delicious and (2) dimple to make.

I made this recipe "as is" but with one major alteration. I sauteed the mushrooms and onions until they were *very* browned (like Pastor Ryan's Mushrooms at Pioneer Woman's blog). This alteration added a noticeable depth of flavor to the original recipe. It also darkened the color, so keep that in mind if that's a consideration.

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Dinner Tonight: Bourdain's Mushroom Soup

If you don't have sherry I think you could easily use dry white wine, and if you like it that way invest in sherry for the future. Or stay with the white wine. Personally I have started using shaoxing wine instead of sherry for most recipes. I like it's subtler flavor. I do have to go to an oriental grocery to get it.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

Oh wow...that IS pretty sad that we need to design apples to look like fries. The only justification for this I see is masking a "healthy" meal for kids to look like something from Burger King. I suppose I'll applaud the effort.

Hillary
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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

Erinlovestoeat figured out the apple fries - cutting them into "fries" takes an object like an apple, which anyone can buy several of for $1.50, and turns it into a "branded" product, that people will pay $1.50 for. (Same with potatoes, by the way, we're just a lot more used to them).

Think about the potato - how hard is it to cut a bunch up and fry them at home? Not very - but no company is going to make money off of a potato, because the production and transportation costs are just barely covered by the selling price (this is why you never see coupons for produce! There's not enough of a margin). So Ore-Ida comes along, and gets a few Urshel cutting machines and a deep fryer, and they take those potatoes and cut them up, slap a brand on them, and suddenly they can sell $1 worth of potatoes for $5, and make a much bigger profit than they would selling plain potatoes.

Unfortunately, natural products don't last in that cut up, branded state, so they have to add all sorts of chemicals to make them "shelf stable" - and we eat those chemicals every single day.

Of course it's healthier and cheaper to eat whole, real foods (like apples and potatoes) but we've been convinced over the last 25 or 30 years that cooking is for experts (like the chefs on Food Network), that it's too hard and it's a chore, so we pay a premium price to have other people and machines do the work for us, at the expense of our health and our budgets.

There's nothing inherently wrong with apple fries, or french fries, as long as one realizes that they're a convenience food, and not a Real Food, and eats them only in moderation. I hope no one would choose apple fries for $1.50 over an apple for $0.30, if there were a side by side choice. But there are no apples in the Drive-Thru... So it's not a side by side choice.

Fortunately grocery stores are trying to jump on the convenience bandwagon, but they're doing it with healthier, fresher food (because they have it available in a way that BK does not). So, at many stores, you can get cut up fresh fruit in the produce section that's ready to eat, or bagged salads with dressing and everything, or even soups and salad bars. One grocery store in my small town has a chicken wing buffet (?!?!?). I haven't quite figured that one out.

Hopefully, as grocery stores get more and more into convenience health foods, we'll start getting out of the drive thru and into the stores. Maybe the next step is to add a drive thru to the grocery store!

But apple fries is simply a way of taking a commodity, like an apple, and turning it into a Product, with a trademark and everything. It has nothing to do with "tricking" kids into eating fruit, and everything to do with "tricking" parents into being parted from their money.

Amy @ http://prettybabies.blogspot.com

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

Do you think BK would dip the apples in batter, deep fry them and then sprinkle with cinnamon sugar? Cause that's the only way I'm eating apples from Burger King. If I want an apple, I'll have an apple. Bring back McD's fried apple pies, haha!

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

So how are they keeping these cut apples so white and pristine looking?

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

I'd want some questions answered before I fed them to my toddler granddaughter. If they are crisp, fresh and live in acidulated water ONLY, I would applaud BK.

I hate the commercial (the kid KICKED his father - how disturbing is that?) and it doesn't give us the info we need if it truly is a wonderful fresh way to present fruit to children. I will remain unimpressed, suspicious and wary until I learn otherwise.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

@KashaKnish - of course! Parents find ways of presenting foods in different ways to get their children interested. I remember when my daughter was 2, I put a variety of foods in an ice cube tray. She loved picking things out of the different compartments and eating them. And thus the Nibbler Tray was born!

The truth of it is that most kids will eat whatever you put in front of them at BK's, mostly because they want the toy. Considering how processed fast food french fries are (remember the thin Big Mac-lovin' guy from Supersize me who said he rarely ate the fries), if I had to pick the lesser of the two evils (and thankfully, I don't, because my child doesn't like fast food), I would give my child the apples that had been treated with ascorbic acid.

It's an option, and a lot of people who give their children fast food on a regular basis will avail themselves of it, at least part of the time. In the grand scheme of things, it's a good thing, I think.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

The question asked was whether "we have to entice kids to eat apples by cutting them into strips and making them look like french fries." While I have a lot of problems with the execution of this idea, I have none at all with the concept.

Since when is serving food in an unusual, interesting or amusing way, or in a way that "entices", a bad thing? We see pictures on SE every day of food made to look like something else. It's fun. Kids are more likely to want the apples if they're presented in a way that appeals to them.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

@jt omg what kind of chemical would be able to hold a sliced apple for a month? a regular old apple slice, even in acudulated water, won't hold long at all. so I guess what bk is selling is healthy food dressed up as junk food and made into actual junk food thru preservaties. and the terrible thing is that millions of parents are gonna fall for it.

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Burger King's Little Brat Digs Apple Fries. Do You?

The Big King gives me the heebie jeebies. The Little King is equally creepy, just in a smaller size. I can't stand these commercials.

And yes, it appears we have to start disguising healthy foods as junk foods before the majority of the public will be interested in eating them. How sad.

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Are most foodies fatties?

Personally, I'm almost 15lbs overweight at 145. The last 5 came on when I started dating chef BF. But damn, I am so freakin' happy. Totally worth it.

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Are most foodies fatties?

AARP bumper sticker:

Food has replaced sex in my life.
Now, I can't even get into my own pants.

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Are most foodies fatties?

Not in my case, I love to cook more than I love to eat... I'm more like a picky 5 year old when it comes to eating.

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Are most foodies fatties?

Carolina de Witte - chefs can taste if they want to, of course. Some do, some don't. Some do sometimes but not always.

I was never taught to taste during service before sending it out to a customer but rather to be sure that I knew ahead of time by smell and look and by focus on the initial prep and even ordering/checking in of goods that when in the process of putting out anywhere from four orders to 250 orders that they would be good and correct in taste just from the building "from the ground up" so to speak.

As executive chef I worked on instilling this same way of doing things in the chefs and cooks that worked for me. It requires a lot of standardization of recipe and focus on initial ingredients, along with an intensive structure that involves detailed production schedules and a well-trained team who are willing to work together. It's not just about the food itself, its about the people who are putting it together.

This takes away from "creativity" allowed in a free-form way, yes. But the guests get consistency.

It's a beautiful thing when a kitchen of ten can trust each other to come in and together put out a range of meals where some of the plates might be finely detailed "fine dining" and the other plates are fine banquet service for 50 hitting at the exact same time.

Granted, part of this is intuition. But most of it is training, teamwork, knowledge and consistently-implemented procedures that run from step A to step Z.

But to each their own, and to taste on an ongoing basis is one way of doing it, for sure.
But what I said is true and workable also. :)

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Are most foodies fatties?

@annien - well put. I only consider myself sort of a foodie and only for the past year and a half or so. The eating habits that keep me at the lower end of my weight range over the past five years? Cooking and eating more fresh/whole foods, paying attention to what I eat at every meal (for both the sake of making sure it's healthy *and* the sake of making sure it's delicious), and going out of my way to enjoy what I eat as much as possible. I do tend to eat a lot, I think, but I've learned to cook healthy things in a delicious way, so my little transition to being a foodie hasn't resulted in turning into a fattie.

@BangieB - you're right, there is no moral triumph to being thin. However, with the obesity problem being what it is, I think we all owe it to ourselves to try to be healthier (which usually results in being thinner, though being thin doesn't automatically mean being healthy).

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Are most foodies fatties?

foodvox said: "No, chefs don't have to taste all the time if they are chefs for they know what they are doing and don't have to double-check." This isn't true. I've been a chef for many years, but I was taught to ALWAYS taste before sending it to a customer. There are many variables in cooking. If you aren't a good 'taster', you can not be a chef. The difference between ordinary, bad and sublime can be just a touch too little or too much salt, nevermind such ingredients as acids, etc. That being said, a 'taste' doesn't mean an entire mouthful of food, it is just enough to judge...a few drops could be sufficient.

I am not overweight, as I usually skip the 'house meals', and I go to the gym several nights a week. I eat the majority of my meals at home with my family, and we love fresh fruits and vegetables, organic and local if possible. I love preparing meals for my family even more than I do for patrons at work. Moderation is always key. I do splurge, but not everyday.

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Are most foodies fatties?

From my perspective, there is absolutely no moral triumph for being thin. You want to be thin, be thin. But when people pat themselves on the back for what they perceive to be better eating habits than someone else... I just find that, in and of itself, self aggrandizement of the grossest variety.

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Are most foodies fatties?

There's a difference between a foodie and a glutton. People comment to my DH all the time that he ought to weigh 400 pounds because of the way I cook. But if you're eating good food every day, I think you're less apt to eat like a starving dog, because you know there will be good food tomorrow, too. Someone else who dines with us might get a little carried away, because they're just eating this one meal with us.

And I also think that part of being a foodie who cooks is that I look into more than just the flavors. I look at things like nutrition.

And good food isn't necessarily fattening food. A perfectly cooked vegetable can be a delight. A fresh raw tomato is wonderful.

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Are most foodies fatties?

I despise the type pf thinklng which tells people that they look fat simply because they enjoy their food. This is a screw-up of the Puritan ethic, which told us that, if you enjoyed something, it would hurt you.

Today's foodies stand against that. We want to know more about every aspect of our food, not so we can shove rich things down our throats constantly, but so we can have a great salad or cookie or pasta dish or veggie casserole or hot dog or grilled cheese or or or...and makes sure it gives us strength and health as well as the calories.

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Are most foodies fatties?

@bobcatsteph: "God forbid you have to pee at a restaurant" I understand COMPLETELY.

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Are most foodies fatties?

I have been thin all my life (as is the majority of my family), the type of thin that people stare at you if God forbid you have to pee at a restaurant, and feel like making snide remarks is perfectly fine. I developed progressive, chronic illness at age 20, and a few years ago I was so ill I weighted 78 lbs. at 5'8" because my insurance wouldn't pay for the medication that allows me to eat.

That is resolved now thank goodness and thanks to medicine, food blogs, and my learning how to cook I put on 40 lbs. I'm still thin, but feel as good as I can, and love to be able to eat, because 2 years ago I couldn't, and I pray no one ever takes that for granted.

I am also glad by reading these comments that it seems most foodies know how to be healthy, the rest of the population could take some hints from here on how to eat well, with awesome tasting food, and not become overweight.

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