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Bummed About Burgers
I'm so glad that Bittman wrote that piece. We do have to change the way we eat - but that doesn't mean we have to give up burgers. We just have to know a bit more about where our burgers are coming from. All we got to loose is looking a little smug...
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If you want to maintain that ability to function with a first rate intelligence, then I suggest you keep your meaty eats around. The seeming lack of intelligence often observed in our meat-rejecting friends is not all from the "herbal supplements" that often make up part of their diet. Unfortunately for those who feel a meat-free life is more enlightened existence, their diet lacks vital amino acids and complex proteins vital to the proper production of brain cells and neurotransmitters. I try to follow the lead of my omnivorous friend Ecopimp, who lives closer to the earth than any of us city people would be comfortable with, who knows the patterns of life and death and humanity's place within that chain (yes we are animals, and thus part of the food chain too, entitled to our needs but not to gluttony or waste). We should work to improve the footprint of all we eat, connect with the growers and farmers who make up our local food chain, and to mitigate the damage of our demands with efforts for the greater good. And why not have the full brain functions of a properly nourished body to help propel these efforts at improving the world. That seems like the only humane and responsible approach for all its citizens.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Nutrition-Dieting-939/Vit-B-complex-proteins.htm
Bummed About Burgers
I'm with Texas Blues. I grew up on a farm, too. We raised 75% of the food we ate whether animal or vegetable. My uncle raised wheat and cotton. The wheat sometimes harbored meadow larks and their ground nests. When he harvested the wheat, meadow larks and their nests were often destroyed. It was not intentional, and we all tried not to harm wild animals, but it happened.
Bummed About Burgers
There, in my opinion are only two places to get a good
Burger. Whataburger in Texas and Blake's Lotaburger in New Mexico. These are the Best. There is one burger place in Ft.Worth Texas that is not a chain but should be world famous, it is Kincaid's Grocery. Do not even tell me about a Cheeseburger until you have reviewed one there.
Bummed About Burgers
Born and raised in Indianapolis, my loyalty is still to Steak and Shake. However, as strange as it may sound there is a Wendy's here in Colorado Springs that does something different in their cooking that makes me set my errands where I end up there for lunch.
Bummed About Burgers
Well I love a good burger as well and wouldn't think about not eating one. But here's a suggestion to "balance" out your desire for a burger and the ecological cost behind making one. For every burger you eat, try and recycle more, stop drinking bottled water (think of the landfil pollution), try and walk or ride your bike to save on the pollution from your car or mass transit bus or train. Start using a "green" grocery bag, instead of plastic or paper (now imagine if we all did this simple thing). Shop at a farmers market for your produce, instead of having them shipped across the country or half way around the world. And buy organic, where there is no run off into our rivers and streams from the pesticides and herbicides. I think if you (we) all do a few of these things we can all enjoy our guilt free burger.
Bummed About Burgers
Great post. Here's how I dealt with it, I married a vegetarian. The way I figure it she offsets anything I do in regards to meat so I live guilt free enjoying my bacon cheesburgers (probably a little more often than my doctor would like though!).
Bummed About Burgers
Having grown up on a farm...how come nobody of the vegan/vegetarian community ever mentions the scores of animals i.e. bird young and eggs, mice, voles, insects, killed by plows, discs, cultivators etc. while growing the grain to make that 12 grain organic loaf of bread? Doesn't matter if you are a vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, herbivore or only eat fish....something is dying to feed you.
Cheers, TB.
Bummed About Burgers
I agree with Tactful_Cactus; moderation is really the issue, here.
Burgers are fantastic, and I there's no reason to stop eating them. There seem to be some very solid arguments against most forms of large-scale farming, shabby treatment of animals and the environment, and a meat-at every-meal attitude, but none of those things are implicit in the act of preparing or eating a burger.
So, you can't stop eating burgers, or consider feeling guilty over what very-briefly vegetarian teenager may think of you! Fight the good fight by making the best burgers from the most responsible ingredients, and eating them in reasonable amounts.
If we simply divide into two camps, one forgoing meat and its pleasures, the other hostilely clinging to them, it will be very difficult to address the situation intelligently or effectively.
Bummed About Burgers
What saddens me about the prevalent dialogues I've been seeing in regard to anti-meat-eating and pro-meat-eating is that they're so black-and-white, and any post discussion of the latest article or information always end up centering around an "always" or "never" conversation.
That Bittman article implored us to eat less meat, not to stop eating meat. Americans eat way too much meat. Plain and simple. You can still eat meat and enjoy the hell out of it, in fact, you enjoy more when you have it less!
And, IMO, not all meat is a terror on the environment. Eat less, grassfed, humanely raised meat, and you'll be easing your cost to the environment and also, though the meat is more expensive, you'll be paying the same because you're eating less of it!
Everything's always reduced to it's lowest common denominator. No wonder people are so afraid of environmentalism when it's always wrongly interpreted as Do or Die.
Bummed About Burgers
Lauren -
A thought or two. First, we are carnivores as well as herbivores. Where we have lost touch with this is that many of us don't raise our own food. When I have raised an animal for food, I have much more directly appreciated the gift that that animal gave so that I might live. It's not the same when the closest connection you have with your food is the cello wrap it came in, whether it is animal or vegetable.
Secondly, we should not be making our choices about eating based upon whether it is "cool to be seen" eating a certain thing. What's cool about eating lettuce or clams? Eat because you enjoy the experience!
I'll go back to sleep now.
Bummed About Burgers
Yeah. It was sort of an in-post "unicorn chaser."
Bummed About Burgers
Yeah. I was gonna make a sad burger graphic, but then I felt bad about it.
That burger looks amazing though. Thanks.
Bummed About Burgers
For the record: As burgermeister general here on AHT, I added the burger photo into Lauren's post. As she said: "That's kind of a mean trick, you putting in an image and then referring to it in a comment ;)"
Bummed About Burgers
I know how you feel, Lauren. Sometimes I wonder what I'm doing promoting the burger lifestyle. But then I see a burger like the one pictured here and can't help myself.
What I've done, and maybe this could help you, is limit my burger intake to one a week. This is not only good for the planet, but also good for my own health. I've always tried to maintain a one-burger-a-week limit but have never stuck to it. The last few months, though, I've been golden.
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I'm so glad that Bittman wrote that piece. We do have to change the way we eat - but that doesn't mean we have to give up burgers. We just have to know a bit more about where our burgers are coming from. All we got to loose is looking a little smug...
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