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Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
I love Giordano's! It's almost always the first thing I get when I go back to visit family in Chicago.
In terms of slice size, I don't know exactly how it compares but when I took friends from here (nyc) to Chicago they were usually filled by 1 to 1.5 slices and they all generally eat 2-3 ny slices. I usually go for 3 the first time back...
Ted Allen is a Food Myth Buster
Sounds like it has potential. I do hope, however, that it doesn't follow the same path as Unwrapped. I feel like that show went from being interesting to being a forum for (mostly) corporations to promote their products.
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
I must say i don't buy the "it's not a pizza" argument on deep dish, one which has nearly destroyed my relationship with my partner, a die-hard ny chauvinist. Besides, that argument distracts from the fact that Chicago-style thin crust pizza that is really delicious, and totally overlooked. just saying.
I moved to NY from Chicago 7 years ago, and I do share a deep love for NY Pizza, but Chicago Pizza (deep and thin) calls to me from the windy city on a nearly weekly basis.
Daniel - Uno outside of Chicago is nasty. In the first year I lived here I was homesick for some deep-dish and went to one of the Uno chain restaurants. It was truly a terrible experience.
I have to say my favorite Chicago deep dish is probably Pequot's in Lincoln Park and I'm partial to Barnaby's for thin crust.
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Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
@worldcupfever: I've had a good number of pizzas from Lou's sent to me over the years and they turn out quite good. The only thing that I've had a problem with is making sure the crust gets crispy enough, the key to which I think is making sure it's thawed out all the way before sticking it in the oven.
Not as good as getting a pie in Chicago but as close as I've come in nyc, short of making my own.
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
I love Giordano's! It's almost always the first thing I get when I go back to visit family in Chicago.
In terms of slice size, I don't know exactly how it compares but when I took friends from here (nyc) to Chicago they were usually filled by 1 to 1.5 slices and they all generally eat 2-3 ny slices. I usually go for 3 the first time back...
Ted Allen is a Food Myth Buster
Sounds like it has potential. I do hope, however, that it doesn't follow the same path as Unwrapped. I feel like that show went from being interesting to being a forum for (mostly) corporations to promote their products.
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
I must say i don't buy the "it's not a pizza" argument on deep dish, one which has nearly destroyed my relationship with my partner, a die-hard ny chauvinist. Besides, that argument distracts from the fact that Chicago-style thin crust pizza that is really delicious, and totally overlooked. just saying.
I moved to NY from Chicago 7 years ago, and I do share a deep love for NY Pizza, but Chicago Pizza (deep and thin) calls to me from the windy city on a nearly weekly basis.
Daniel - Uno outside of Chicago is nasty. In the first year I lived here I was homesick for some deep-dish and went to one of the Uno chain restaurants. It was truly a terrible experience.
I have to say my favorite Chicago deep dish is probably Pequot's in Lincoln Park and I'm partial to Barnaby's for thin crust.
Wanted: Quick and efficient tips for chopping chocolate
I use a serrated knife, but have also found that my mandolin set to make fairly thick slices works pretty well for chopping chocolate.
New Mexican Eats
In Santa Fe -
Tecolote Cafe is possibly my favorite breakfast place ever, eggs with bacon smothered in green and red chile, oh god yes.
La Choza is also a personal favorite, which I usually choose over Tomasita's when visiting friends there.
Horseman's Haven - I've never managed to go (closed for renovations, etc...) but everyone I know there says they have some seriously hot green chile.
Also, a word of advice - try both the red and green chile individually but try asking for "christmas" which is both on your meal. it's a pretty damn good flavor combination as well.
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
I had my first taste of an Uno's pizza during the summer of 1966. I was visiting a cousin who was a Missouri native and on Saturday night, we waited in the line to get in. Well worth the wait. And that was in the original with all the names carved on the wooden walls and a pizza such as I had never had before. But that's not so hard to do as I am a native of the deep southern part of Illinois and to the best of my memory, the closest we came to pizza was a package product my mother sometimes would make. Later, 10 years later, I moved to Chicago and one of the first places I HAD to go was to Uno's. Winter time, so always happy when we got in the door to wait -- it's not called the "windy city" without justification! So, we give our order to the waitress and we wait, and we wait, finally, name called. Think we had beers and perhaps a salad, but the much awaited pizza arrives, pipping hot at the waitress warns us as she does the bit with the handy tool and looseens the pizza from the pan and put a slice on each of our plates. Oh, did that bring back memories of that first one. We always had to order the same ingredients -- sausage, onion, mushroom and green pepper! OH! the thought of that, my mouth is watering already! We (that is my ex-husband and I) would often meet there for pizza. Then friends introduced us to their favorite place which was further north and west of the Water Tower area. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name -- just that it was a thin crust. And later, someone suggested we try Lou Malnati's -- we only lived a short distance away, so that one became our real favorite. The house salad was great and did not fill us so much that we had no room for that pizza that was always the small -- perfect for 2 people! Then we moved closer to the loop and we tried a few more -- there was one place, name escapes me now, but it was to the east off of Michigan avenue, and it too, was always a wait. Then we got even smarter and started getting forzen cheese & sauage ones which we started keeping in the freezer for those times when we just had to have a slice. And I added the green pepper, onions & mushrooms to those.
One evening while sitting in the bar section at Uno's, we were crowded next to a travelling salesman and since the space is so small, we got to chatting about food. He always made time to go to Uno's when in Chicago, but then some how my home town was mentioned and he said not matter how close he was to the neighboring town, he made a point of going to a Barbeque place -- Ray's in Harrisburg. Well, there is a man after my own heart -- althought my family favored another place, I had often eaten in Rays (and still get his sauce and find his grandson and get sandwiches).
Then there were other places for pizza that suddenly started popping up in various areas close to the loop. One place had a spinach pizza, another was close to where the ex worked and we had some pizza there.
I moved to San Antonio in '86, so no more pizza -- might have checked to see if someone could get a frozen one and overnight it, but that never occured to me and the price would have been silly. Then a move to St. Louis, a trip to Chicago for several reasons, so more pizza from one or the other of my favs. But while in St. Louis, they suddenly opened a "store" not far from us there. Well, was I disappointed!!! I told husband we could split one --- oh, was I wrong, too small and not the same crust.
But because of that we looked at the menu again and ordered a different style which was much better.
Then some years later, we move to the Philly area and discover the first night we are there -- our anniversary, no less, that there was a new Uno's almost in walking distance. So for years we went there for pizza. Fortunately, at some point a second one was opened and we not longer
had to put up with the rude, tired parents and screaming babies who had stopped at the first place they came to after they left Seseame Place. Summers at Uno's at that location were awful. But we did try several other pizza places over the years and I must say, that I have two favorites and they are Uno's and Lou Malnati's.
I did find it interesting one summer when we met my niece and her family at the Field Museum to see King Tut, her husband, who grew up in a Chicago suburb and also went to conventions at the convention center! Had NEVER HAD an Uno's pizza!!! My niece was in 7th heaven because, despite her 20 year + delay of seeing the King Tut exhibit, she also got to have some Unos! And I have a friend in Chicago who used to send me gift certificates from Lou Malnati's and I would order a pizza and a dessert. We also lived in Pittsburgh and I went nuts when we saw a new Uno's --- the franchise stores are not exactly the same -- and one thing missing seems to be the corn meal in the pans!!!
But I say Uno, Due or Lou Malnati's. I never cared for what they ordered at my last job in Pittsburgh when we had overtime -- they were thin crust and just not a Chicago style pizza. Close, but really NOT CIGAR!!!
Mary
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
o hey look at this:
http://www.urbanspoon.com/f/2/146/Chicago/Pizza-places
Lord knows how Lou mal's got that high at least it is below my beloved Pequod's
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
@valgalpal: I have forgotten more about pizza/culinary arts than you know.
My treatise is not something I pulled out of my ass I know a large contingent of people who really dislike Lou Mal's it's really not that good!
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
I grew up eating Uno's pizza. Neat place (wonder if my name is still on the wall in the back corner?) and the pizza was really good. Everyone said Duo's, down the street wasn't as good, but couldn't understand why, being the same recipe. About 20 years ago, I moved to Dallas, Texas. There was an Uno's in Addison. The flavor was similar, but the pizza was awful. I looked into it and apparently the alkalinity of the water in Texas is not the same as Chicago, so their dough wouldn't rise the same way. They used a par-baked crust, which was dry and tastless. Now they are out of business. A couple years ago, while in Chicago, a group of us went to Uno's and for whatever reason, the pizza was terrible. Whoever made them in the old days made them from scratch and must have had a special yeast growning under their fingernails or something. But what they try to pass of for an Uno's in Texas and now in Chicago just isn't the same as it used to be. What a shame! Big Bill
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
An article in today's Chicago Tribune details some of the efforts by Tim Samuelson to get the true story behind the invention of deep dish pizza. Samuelson, the Cultural Historian for the City's Department of Cultural Affairs, went on a quest to settle once and for all who should get the credit for inventing deep dish pizza, Ike Sewell or Rudy Malnati. He didn't solve it, but thanks to his research, I learned a few new nuggets of Chicago pizza intel that are worth reporting.
First, I should have given more credit to Richard Novaretti, known as Ric Riccardo, who started Uno's with Ike Sewell. In fact, Uno's was originally known as The Pizzeria, a name soon changed to Riccardo's Pizzeria, which lasted until 1955. That year, the pair opened Due's and renamed their first restaurant Uno's.
Second, Uno's is located in a building that was originally a mansion built by lumber baron Nathan Mears. During the 1940s and 1950s, phone books show that Sewell, Riccardo and Malnati all lived in the mansion that also housed the restaurant.
Third, while I mentioned the tie between Gino's East and Uno's in my review of the former, I did not know that Delisi's was started by a former waitress at Uno's. Nor was I aware that Louisa's which I have yet to review for Slice was also started by a former Due's employee.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
Lou Malnati's is my family's favorite pizza deep dish pizza. My wife and I started going to the one on North Wells about 15 years ago when we were still dating and now we take our kids there. We've probably been there over 100 times and I don't think we've ever had a bad pizza. We've had pizza from all over the city and suburbs but for us LM's is our favorite. (Side note: the Malnati salad is also excellent. Definately give it a try. I now look forward to that almost as much as the pizza!)
And finally to Timothyrows: Get real.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
Timothyrows: I don't know what you know about Chicago pizza, but as I was born and raised on Chicago pizza, I've never heard of Pequod's or Piece. Might as well be Cumquat's. Chicago's pizza? You must be from New York or outerspace. Lou's is the best. Even Bobby Flay couldn't make a better pizza when he challenged them to a throwdown!
Lou's is awesome and if you pick up a frozen one in any of their storefronts they are great at home...so I imagine the ones you get shipped are pretty good too. And their jingle is pretty catchy...1 800 loutogo...
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
Adam, I hope you don't mind but I need to borrow the Truth Hammer for a minute.
@Timothyrows: While there are good arguments that can be made that some pizzerias in Chicago offer a better product than Malnati's (though not for a place that uses canned sauce and processed everything like Chicago's Pizza), you are simply dead wrong that Lou Malnati's meets any definition of a tourist trap. Malnati's has 30 locations, 25 of which are located in the suburbs. Last time I checked, tourists were not flocking to places like Mount Prospect. And of the five in Chicago, only 2 are in areas that are even close to major tourist traffic, but even those two (South Loop and River North) are pretty far off the typical tourist's path.
You might not be a fan of Malnati's, but when a chain has 30 restaurants, most of which are never seen by tourists, that's called a Chicago institution, not a tourist trap.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I believe I speak for a number of people in my following treatise on Lou Mal's: "Home of Flawless Deep Dish" Wow that is a statement. Lou Mal's is more likely the home of a flawless tourist trap. Now its one thing to be a tourist trap and produce a great product and another thing to produce a marginal one. Lou Malnati's definitely falls into the latter category. There is simply much better Chicago pie out there. If you want to keep it close to the above locale head to Pequod's or Piece or even...Chicago's pizza. Yea i went there even Chicago's is better. Lou Mal's crust and bottom of the pie comes out soggy, the sausage is overcooked, and the sauce easily communicates itself as unsubstantial. While Lou Mal's is a great piece of branding with a history so delightfully indigenous to Chicago a native wouldn't be caught dead there.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
I just ran across this posting and had to comment! I love Lou's pizza!!! It is the best I have ever tasted, bar none. I moved to SC many years ago and one of the one million things they do not have here is anything that resembles a true pizza. Dominos and Pizza Hut rocks for these folks. I used to brag about how great Chicago pizza (and the city itself) is, I finally took some friends up for a week of eye opening fun and food. The first place we ate at was Lou's and they have never been the same since (told 'em!). God, I miss ya'll!!!!
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
Correction to the article: I met with Leo Spizzirri today, who's the GM and Executive Chef at Giordano's. I learned a lot of good pizza info, but wanted to correct one thing here: There is no shortening in Giordano's crust. There is no butter in the dough, but a good amount of butter goes in the pan before the dough is added.
A couple of other good nuggets: they use different sauces for the stuffed and thin crust, with the stuffed version being much chunkier; the cheese is whole milk mozzarella; and the dough is prepared 3-4 days in advance of cooking.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
My fam from out of town will place an order for a 1/2 cooked pizza which they can pickup, freeze and reheat in a home oven. It's as close to the real deal and better than the pre-packaged ones in store.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
I grew up with Malnati's and it's always been my gold standard.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
djb runnin free, rappin bout the p:
no question, lou's is badazz chi-pie, i put it right up there with pizano's, if not above....big fan....big fan!
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
I went to the Lou's on N. Wells in March 2007 when visiting Chicago, not impressed at all. I've heard that location is not their best however.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
Visiting Chicago for the first time real soon. The timing of this article is perfect! I'm so so excited to try the Lou and that butter crust! Butter crust! The word butter associated with anything instantly makes it sound good.
Lou Malnati's: Home of Flawless Deep Dish
@worldcupfever: And there you go! You're right; someone did know!
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
I've been doing the Chicago pizza thing since the '50's in my neighborhood, and at Uno/Due since the early 60's, so you'll know my bias. Giordono's lacks flavor in my book. The sausage is bland, the sauce is sweetly bland, and the cheese is just gooey. The crust also lacks character if you ask me and maybe you didn't. I love the crust at Uno/Due because it is crisp and has a bread-like crum I appreciate. It is the king, queen and all the court.
And there are at least several thin crust pizza establishments worth discovering. But it's not about thick or thin---it's about great and not. And Giordono's is a not for me.
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
There's no such thing as too much cheese =)
Seriously though, every time I've had a Chicago-style pizza, what I didn't like was that it was too much crust. I like the idea of the thinner top crust...
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
deeoh1... hahaha, tru dat. cant we all just get along!
Uno's, Chicago's Original Deep-Dish Pizza
haha... this whole comment section for this article has been a pretty enjoyable read. The following is not directed at any specific person (unless noted)... Anyway, i am a born, raised, and currently living Chicagoan. That being said, I just love food. I love Chicago STYLE style pizza and would love to try New York STYLE (going to NY in August) or any other STYLE of pizza there is. i don't think you can say anything (food wise in general) is any better or worse just because it is a different STYLE. Taste is based on the individual. if it tastes good to you, that's good enough for me. either you like it or you don't. But don't completely dismiss something because, in your eyes, it doesn't conform to what you believe is right. if that's the way you roll, you'll be missing out on some serious eats:)
on a side note(s)...
simon's comments are funny to me (some people just get a kick out of provoking others. it's not worth getting mad at these people. Although, DJ Bubbles had some pretty funny retorts to his comments)
welcome Daniel! I have been following CPC for a while and you are a welcome addition here, good to get another perspective in here.
also, i would venture to guess that Daniel's headline at the top, "Greetings from the Pizza Capital of the World!" was meant more as a playful greeting for his first post, rather than a "screw you NY" as some people have taken it... just my two cents
also, sorry for chiming in a bit late on this. i was away from a computer for a while and i just got to this. i actually felt compelled to sign up for the site just so i could throw down some words on this discussion... Keep up the good work Serious Eats crew!
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
Wow... 10 comments into this thread and not a single New Yorker proclaiming "That's NOT pizza!". I am SHOCKED!
I loves me some Chicago pizza!
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
I must confess that I usually eat three slices. I inhale the first one since I'm so excited, I savor the second one, and then I eat the third because I just can't stop.
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
I usually go for one and a half slices. My favorite thing about stuffed crust though, is pulling apart the two layers of the crust, and eating the thin, tender saucy top layer, and the salty, crisp, flakey bottom layer separately. Yum!
Giordano's, a Stuffed Pizza Classic in Chicago
i long for the days of the tuesday night special, stuffed pesto and a pitcher for $15. Fed me for a week. So yes, one slice is enough.
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@worldcupfever: I've had a good number of pizzas from Lou's sent to me over the years and they turn out quite good. The only thing that I've had a problem with is making sure the crust gets crispy enough, the key to which I think is making sure it's thawed out all the way before sticking it in the oven.
Not as good as getting a pie in Chicago but as close as I've come in nyc, short of making my own.