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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

Newark NJ has the best water ever. Much better than NYC. I don't notice much of a difference in breads/pizza. The water theory is only partially valid. If you have water that tastes like crap (goto Vegas or Florida and you'll find out what I'm talking about), it makes the dough taste that bad. You have to remove the calcium and chlorine from the water. That's what Chris Bianco does by filtration. Aside from that, the yeast you use is way more important along with the rise time you use. You can make some really bland dough from NYC water and you can make some really tasty dough from any water. California may not have the great water but San Fran. sure has some tasty sourdough bread. That's because they use a good sourdough culture.

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Lactose and My Adios

Baha, I have lactose intolerance too. The key is to learn how to release your gas rather than let it sit in you. Sad to say, but I can fart on command. It allows me to avoid all the pain that used to get to me after drinking milk.

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Lactose and My Adios

haha, all lactose intolerance means is you fart after you eat some pizza. Small price to pay for the greatest food in the world.

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Laser Pizza Slicer

heh, I just thought more about cooking pizza with an infrared laser. It would be the same thing as microwaving it. Not very good.

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Laser Pizza Slicer

I would, but I'd totally get fired. And you couldn't cook a pizza with a laser. It's only about a millimeter in diamter. I'd need about 500 lasers to cook a pizza.

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Laser Pizza Slicer

Heh, I work in a laser lab at a university. I'm gonna stick a slice in front of it and see if it can burn the pizza.

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Pan-Fried Pizza

man, that pizza really looked mediocre. The best pizza's have a fine balance of ingredients. He had about an inch of cheese and toppings on that thing.

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Pepe's: Coming to a College Town Near You?

Well, considering the quality of Pepe's has dropped off the mountain, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to duplicate their pies elsewhere anymore.

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How to Find the Perfect Pizza

Some of the best pies I've had have come out of gas fired ovens. You can tell a great pie just by looking at it, and you can finally make judgment by tasting it. By the way, Mr. Mangieri's didn't cut the mustard in that whole taste category.

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Stuffing My Face at Pizzeria Bianco

I disagree Mmm, I've been to both Pepe's and Sally's and they don't compare to places like Patsy's, Tottono's, Luzzo's, Angelo's, etc. The clam pie is good, but I've made a better one at home. And it's "Wooster St.", not Worcester. The pies are no more special than the generic thin crust pies that you find throughout New Jersey.

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

I disagree with the water theory. The best pizza I have had outside of NYC was in North Carolina - two brothers who moved down from the bronx to open up a place. It's how you make it as well as the ingredients.

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

It may help those engaged in this melee to know that there is no one "NYC" water. Upper Manhattan and the Bronx get it from one source and reservoir system. Manhattan south of 110th St or so (I'm not sure where the boundary line is exactly) get it largely untreated from the Delaware River and southern Catskills through a different reservoir system. Brooklyn and Queens get it from another source, and I don't know where Staten Island gets theirs from. As many have pointed out, you can get good pizza from places other than the lower 2/3 of Manhattan and outside NY City. I'm sure there is water so bad that you can't make good pizza from it, but it's clear that you can do fine with lots of different kinds of water. For what it's worth, Phoenix gets its water from the Colorado River, the source of a lot of Southern California's water. The City of L.A. gets theirs from the Owens Valley, east of the Sierras.

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

Slightly OT...but when I was in NYC for my first wedding anniversary 10 years ago, I had a pretzel from a street vendor that I could swear tasted like smog. Not exactly a good thing, not exactly a bad thing...but distinct and unforgettable. So I don't know if you can rule the water thing out...though I agree that bad pizza is probably due more to user error than bad water. =)

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

h2o? maybe-I think it's a northeast us thing: I've traveled all over the US and there's nothing like NY/NJ/PA ( I live in Central PA) pizza. California pizza just doesn't have the sauce flavor or the great foldable crust.

benlee: FYI-San Fran's great sourdough is from a decades-old starter, but there are also specific cultures/spores present in the air out there. They've even been named for the city!

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

i'd say it's the italians.
that and all the tough customers in ny.

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

FYI, NYC water now is way different than it was when I was a kid growing up in the Bronx. There's way more chlorine now and it just doesn't taste as good.

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

As I've been saying online for 4 years, the water thing is 100% myth. I get emails about this several times a week. According to Maggie Glazer, the myth that baked goods are better in NY because of the water goes all the way back to the 1700's when in the rest of the country people used well water and not municipal tap water. Half the time this wasn't too far from the latrine. In other words the original comparison was comparing NY water, which comes from a pretty good aquifer system upstate, to other systems that would be comparable to what the 3rd world uses today. This rumor says more about how rumors and 'common knowledge' are passed down through the ages than anything about your local water system's shortcomings today. As anyone who's read my recipe (http://slice.seriouseats.com/jvpizza/) or tasted my pizza here in Atlanta knows, it's not the water...

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

My, my...it takes more than H2O to make good pizza. It's takes the embodiment of beliefs and soul to create magic and mozarella. The alchemy of alimentary proportions. IMHO, it boils down to these simple rules - high turnover = more production by the pizza man, seasoned ovens = better flavor and product, and lastly, NYC Dept of Health codes = everyones' on their toes, including Mr. D of Midwood. Guess who's favorite dishes are these inspectors lingering over?

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Why Can't You Get a Good Slice Outside New York City? 'Wired' Magazine Says It's the Water

OK folks... pizza at DeLorenzo's on Hudson St. in the Chambersburg neighborhood of Trenton, NJ is some of the best I've ever had- rivaling the crisp and delectable pies in Florence and even as good as Lombardis.