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Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I couldn't agree more! I also have a long list of items that are much cheaper at Whole Foods than at other grocery stores. Especially the vegan and vegetarian items. And sure, they have many pricier items than what you'll find at a Kroger, but that doesn't mean that everything is more expensive.
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So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
Angel Foods sells vegan marshmallow kits that you can whip up at home. The kits are easy to use and the results are yummy. I used half of the marshmallow mixture as a "meringue" topping on lemon bars. I'm vegan, so this was a very, very big deal. :)
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I couldn't agree more! I also have a long list of items that are much cheaper at Whole Foods than at other grocery stores. Especially the vegan and vegetarian items. And sure, they have many pricier items than what you'll find at a Kroger, but that doesn't mean that everything is more expensive.
Vegetarian Crock Pot recipes
We have a ton of free vegetarian crock pot recipes here: http://www.vegcooking.com/crockpot.asp. Recipes include barbecue tofu, cassoulet, southwestern dumpling soup, and balsamic-braised root vegetables, just to name a few.
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So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
http://veganmarshmallows.blogspot.com is now offering a vegan marshmallow cookbook called "Vegan Marshmallows Gone Wild!" It has 44 great recipes that build on the basic marshmallow recipe for free on the web site.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
My 2 cents about all the people who mentioned high employee wages as a factor in the WF costs- my sister worked at WF for a long time, and she would regularly run in to coworkers doing her shopping at the inexpensive grocery store across the street. They may pay more than your average grocery store, but it's still not enough for the line-level employees to be able to afford to shop there!
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
their beauty products are marked up to a ridiculous degree. the organic hair gel i buy for six bucks and change at fairway is 9 bucks at whole foods. the exfoliating scrub and the moisturizer i use are also much, much less expensive at fairway.
they charge organic prices for conventional produce a lot of the time, and often don't have things you'd think would be total staples. for instance, i can't get bags of organic romaine hearts there, and they're ubiquitous all over the rest of manhattan.
but what can i say, i shop there anyway. i do try to make it a point to only buy things there i can't get anywhere else, like vegan sugar.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
Its been a while since this thread has been refreshed, but I would just like to add my two cents...
While reading many of the previous posts to the OP, I noticed that people were comparing Whole Foods to other grocers like Wegermans, TJ's, Fresh Market, etc. IMO, these are all "high-end" grocery stores: Grocers that offer high-quality artisan products and an aesthetically pleasing decor. In a nutshell, they are selling more than just groceries: they are selling a shopping experience. The classical music, the distinct aromas in the store, helpful staff, samples.... In business, this is called "branding". I think we all recognize, know (and love!) the Whole Foods brand, just as by comparison we know and recognize the Wal-mart brand as well.
But when you compare two high-end grocer's to one another, I would say its more of an apples-to-apples comparison than, say, comparing any one of those high-end grocers to a Safeway or Albertson's. Prices between grocers like New Seasons, Wild Oats, or Whole Foods are all going to be roughly the same because they all are targeting the same demographic with similar brands.
I think the reason some people are offended by Whole Foods is that they already are used to the prices at their "go-to" grocers. Like many people have said, items (even "staple" items) are typically 2-3 times more expensive than other grocers, and some people have a hard time justifying why anyone in their right mind would want to spend that much money on, for example, pasta or flour .... even if their is a good reason for it (organic, free-trade, sustainable, local, etc.).
Now, I love places like Whole Foods: Like many have said, they offer high-quality products, many of them organic, and a lot of stuff that I just can't find anywhere else. (I have recently read "The Omnivore's Dilemma", and it has really gotten me thinking about the health benefits of buying organic .... There really is a big difference, and not just in taste!). I was never a big "cheese" person, but I am always impressed by their charcuterie, and beer and wine selection.
The problem is that I just can't afford to do all of my shopping there. I would love if I could buy all of my groceries there, because I do see the difference in quality that these kinds of stores offer. But when balancing the checkbook with things I need to buy and things I would like to buy, I wish I could say groceries were a higher priority for me. When I grocery shop, I still tend to buy mostly staples: bulk items, produce, meat, etc. I try and not to buy any processed or frozen foods, limited canned or packaged items .... this has helped me stretch my food budget. But when even staple items are usually 3-4 times more expensive than my local WinCo, its hard to justify the expenses, ESPECIALLY now that "times are tough" (or so I'm told by the news everyday).
So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
http://veganmarshmallows.blogspot.com
Everything you wanted to know about vegan marshmallows, including a great open-source recipe, commercial brands and additional recipes like mocha marshmallows and margarita marshmallows.
Enjoy!
So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
I have a fantasic marshmallow recipe suitable for vegetarians and vegans which is posted on my website.
http://www.meatandeggfree.com/agar-marshmallows.html
It is made with agar agar, zantham and soy protein isolate. You need to get a fluffy mixture in which to incorporate the jell mixture. That is where the soy protein isolate comes in.
So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
I've gotten a lot of requests for the vegetarian marshmallows over the past year. My conscience has gotten a hold of me and I am no longer giving it out.
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So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
Charm City-can I please get that recipe for xanthan gum marshmallow recipe? Please email me at RJBrinkster@gmail.com. Thanks!
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I agree 100% with Jerzee--when there is Wegmans, there is no need for Whole Foods.
But I think the OP was getting at something that does really annoy me--I get it about shopping at Wegmans, too--for example, Wegmans has AWESOME deals but it also has expensive imported and natural goods that are not at bargain-basement prices. So sometimes people have the attitude 'omg! How can you shop there! Clotted cream from England is so expensive/organic flour costs more than regular.' To which I am like: 'omg! Don't buy it!'
It's like some people are offended by the sight of expensive food, even if there is a reason for it being expensive, like if it is imported or organic.
That said, I think WF gets guff because unlike Wegmans, it has no 'off brand' stuff that is cheap--like I can get generic swiffer replacements at Wegmans, but WF doesn't stock it because it's not green enough, and ditto other cleaning products I use, dog toys that aren't high-end, and so forth.
If I didn't have Wegmans I would definitely use WF but I would have to supplement it with another shopping trip to a less expensive store for paper towels and such.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
Whole Foods is more expensive for me because as soon as I hit the produce section I see abut twenty different things that I don't need but sure would like and after I finish loading up my cart with more food than my family could eat in a week I still have to go to the other market to get cat food and cleanser (I can justify spending extra for me but my cat is such a picky eater I end up throwing out half her food after he decides it's time to move on to something else)
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
i like it all -- whole foods, tjs, farmers market, wherever. i definitely wouldn't say trader joes' quality is "so low" -- i would choose TJs over any other supermaket in an instant. yes, whole foods has more artisan and organic products and more selection, which i think is why it tends to be more expensive. if i was making a special meal, i would definitely choose to get everything from whole foods because i know they will have top quality food. but just on anecdotal evidence, i'm often shocked when i see the total price of my groceries at whole foods, and mentally going through what i bought to see how it could possibly add up to that total (red bell peppers for $9.99 a lb?!). and i simply don't have the extra income to be worry about groceries on top of all of my other financial woes. but i'm not hating on whole foods -- i love it there!!
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I actually just went to Whole Foods today to find out the same thing. I usually shop at Winn Dixie (cheap southern grocery store chain) I have 3 people to feed total and cook about 4 meals a week plus snacks and lunches. We typically eat pretty healthy and I was getting tired of the lousy produce / meat selection at WD. I generraly spend 105 - 130 each week at the store depneding on what I need. I spent $107 at Whole Foods. I even bought a lb of Wild Salmon for 14.00 Pretty pricy! I did buy a lot of 365 products. Thats Whole Food generic brand, just as good though. I bought garbage bags, body wash and light bulbs too and still didnt break the bank. I also stayed away from the specialty items and just bought what I needed.
I think Whole Foods is totally doable for a family whos on a budget if you follow these 3 things:
1. Dont go hungry! Too many tempting goodies.
2. Make a list beforehand and STICK TO IT!! Stay away from any unnessecary specialty items.
3. If you cook out of a bag or box a lot this may not be the place for you, That kinda of stuff always costs more. Stick to fresh veggies, fruits, meat/fish and save more money.
Hope that helps anyone considering a trip to Whole Foods :)
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I love Whole Foods. I can understand why it is more expensive because the people who work there are so nice and the food is really healthy. it is excellent quality. I like it way better than Fresh Market and Trader Joes who both claim to be health food stores but fail miserably. In Fresh Market they have all kinds of junk-food snacks like gold-fish, where as in Whole Foods they offer an organic snack brand Annies, which makes the delicious Cheddar Bunnies. I also love the food Whole Foods serves at the store besides groceries. The Macoroni and Cheese is to die for and some of their other entree's are delicious. I rather pay more for higher quality than pay at all for junk. And in all honesty Whole Foods really is not much more expensive.
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So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
I have come across the same vegetarian marshmallow problems.
Marshmallow fluff doesn't have any animal products in it. You could try molding it.
http://www.veggieteenscookbook.com/
So, Vegetarian Marshmallows. Can they be done well?
Thanks everyone, for the tips. I didn't have time to get xanthan gum, or a vegan marshmallow kit, so I made them from a recipe I had found - it didn't work. The whisk went round and round for minutes on end... and it just stayed liquid. But I'll take everyone's tips for next time. Thanks!
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I think it does depend a lot on where you are, and what you are buying. I find that their house brand is priced very competitively, and often comes in cheaper. For example their house organic soy milk is the cheapest I have found anywhere. Their cereal bars (my son's snack of choice) are priced the same as the TJ's brand. I live outside of San Francisco, so groceries are expensive no matter where I shop..
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
Oh Hillary, that link brought back a flood of suppressed memories. Portioning that king of cheeses really is a rite of love and labor. In the shop where I worked, it was both a badge and a burden to know how to do it. I was the only female.
Back to the topic, I stopped in the other day to look for some veal. They had excellent prices, in fact, $6.99/lb for shoulder roast. It's the first time I ever bought veal, but I know that when I see it in other shops (rarely), it's in double-digit zone. Same price for lamb shanks, which is good to me. They were a nice size, too, suitable for one per person without being ridiculous behemoths. Since it's not too far from my home, I think I will look to it more in the future for meat. The smaller store in Austin (Sun Harvest) has been bad for me in the meat area, and Central Market can get hugely expensive.
But the produce is ridiculous. The only items I saw that were good deals were fresh herbs (anything other than parsley and cilantro are always $3 per stupid plastic clamshell at the supermarket $1.49 at WF -- still, .99 at Central Market).
Dairy was higher than any other store I visited, though.
And the service really is helpful. I was using their self-checkout and a couple of my items weren't in the computer. She overrode the system and I scored a bag of purple potatoes for a buck.
I do love their rustic French baguette.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
After reading all the comments, I don't know where to start. I still love Whole Foods which is perfect when you are trying a new recipe and need a whole range of things. When I need cranberries and nuts of any kind but just need a little bit, the bulk section is great. TJ quality is so low, the granola is nothing compared to Whole Foods and the produce, so little to choose from(cheese is great though). Someone mentioned that Whole Foods might have different prices in different areas, that makes sense. In Seattle there is a supermarket called QFC, just a supermarket with prices way more expensive then Whole Foods. I still am so happy that Whole Foods exists.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
Whole Foods is so expensive because they choose to purchase high quality products. For example, who else would spend their money on g-d knows how many authentic wheels of Parmigiano Reggiano cheese just to crack it all at the same time to make a Guinness World Record?
Hillary
Chew on that
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
i think the whole foods in nyc are relative to the other markets we have. i guess in other places they are more expensive. all i know is that fage yogurt is 2.99 at the gristedes on my corner. it is 1.99 at whole foods. i guess you just need to know what is worth buying and what isn't.
as for tj's if it wasn't so cramped i would shop their. i love the on on long island but i rarely go. i did a price check the other day, a bag of shredded carrots was a dollar cheaper then at gristedes.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I basically spend my grocery money between Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and the greenmarket. I work in theatre, which is definitely not a profession known for making money, and so I have to shop around to make my grocery dollars stretch throughout the week. Then again, I'm in Manhattan, and it seems like WF is cheaper here? I walked out of WF yesterday with two stuffed grocery bags for $30. That's about what I would do at TJs.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
Ha, Trader Joe's for college kids? The one near us is teeming with retired folks. There's a street nearby that's full of high-rise condos populated mostly, but not entirely, by empty-nesters, and they have flocked to TJ's en masse. These are folks who can afford to live in upper-middle-class housing, so I imagine most of them are not living solely on Social Security. They are wild about the place. And our TJ's is what the store calls an "East Coast model", which means it's smaller and with a less-extensive inventory.
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
@wookie: Be careful of those new Whole Foods! They just built a new one by my mom's house in Arizona, and we went there when I visited. I swear to you, I wanted to go buy a tent and set up camp by the sushi bar. Some delights it contained? A chocolate fountain, a panini bar, a "smokehouse" (when I was walking towards it, all I could smell was delicious bacon), an actual BAR that you could sit at and enjoy a beer... I thought my local WF was huge until I saw this one.....
Why do people think Whole Foods is so expensive?
I think it is because Whole Foods offers a wide range of products, some of which are expensive. But you don't have to choose the most expensive option within each product category. I am very much a Whole Foods girl. Love the place. In terms of price/quality, I find that Whole Foods offers the best value proposition on the market by far. I find my shopping bill to be very reasonable -- just be smart about what you purchase. The 365 brand is great. As for Trader Joes, it is an ok store but it seems to be more for college kids. The quality at Trader Joes doesn't compare to Whole Foods, especially produce. Variety/breadth of selection at Trader Joes is also lacking. With that said, I think TJs does serve its target customer base well...just not for me.
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Angel Foods sells vegan marshmallow kits that you can whip up at home. The kits are easy to use and the results are yummy. I used half of the marshmallow mixture as a "meringue" topping on lemon bars. I'm vegan, so this was a very, very big deal. :)