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Fluffernutter: Massachusetts' State Sandwich?

I feel that the state sandwich for Massachusetts should be a meatball sub.

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

@Deb: "Amadeus, please go back and reread the article. I can't find where I ever suggested it was wrong, gauche, or low-brow to drink wine from plastic cups. I did suggest that it wouldn't do much for the taste of the wine. That was my conclusion after the seminar, and I stand by it."

Go back and reread my comment, I didn't say you suggested it! But you sound a little defensive, though. Why?

I'd love to do a blind taste-test on wine drank out of a glass vs. paper/plastic... problem is, we'd have to find a way to numb the lips... or have someone else pour the wine into the tester's mouth with their head tilted back.

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

Never said I always drink wine in plastic cups, just challenging the idea that it is somehow wrong, or gauche, or low-brow or frowned-upon to do so. And if you'd like to bring up the issue of the environment, you're opening up quite a Pandora's box when it comes to wine: real cork, plastic cork, industrial processing, monoculture growing in less-developed countries to the detriment of local economies-- the list goes on and on.
Regarding cost, the answer is that I spend pennies on Riedel's silly cost-of-a-bottle-per-glass rule-- I'm estimating about $10 a year, but again I don't just use plastic. I also use inexpensive stemware ($20 worth year) in the last , and in non-formal occasions (and this should really have you fulminating in a brow-furrow) repurposed glass jars ($0). Funny, because I've drank some truly spectacular wine in that time, which I enjoyed with food and company. Now I'll ask you to return the favor and tell me how much you spend per year on stemware?

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Fluffernutter: Massachusetts' State Sandwich?

I feel that the state sandwich for Massachusetts should be a meatball sub.

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Review: Peter Luger Steakhouse

I get the sense that these burgers are made from leftover meat from the day (or a couple of days) before. My girlfriend and I ate these at my first and last trip to Luger's. We both retched shortly thereafter-- I kid not. We have now broken up.

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

@Deb: "Amadeus, please go back and reread the article. I can't find where I ever suggested it was wrong, gauche, or low-brow to drink wine from plastic cups. I did suggest that it wouldn't do much for the taste of the wine. That was my conclusion after the seminar, and I stand by it."

Go back and reread my comment, I didn't say you suggested it! But you sound a little defensive, though. Why?

I'd love to do a blind taste-test on wine drank out of a glass vs. paper/plastic... problem is, we'd have to find a way to numb the lips... or have someone else pour the wine into the tester's mouth with their head tilted back.

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

Never said I always drink wine in plastic cups, just challenging the idea that it is somehow wrong, or gauche, or low-brow or frowned-upon to do so. And if you'd like to bring up the issue of the environment, you're opening up quite a Pandora's box when it comes to wine: real cork, plastic cork, industrial processing, monoculture growing in less-developed countries to the detriment of local economies-- the list goes on and on.
Regarding cost, the answer is that I spend pennies on Riedel's silly cost-of-a-bottle-per-glass rule-- I'm estimating about $10 a year, but again I don't just use plastic. I also use inexpensive stemware ($20 worth year) in the last , and in non-formal occasions (and this should really have you fulminating in a brow-furrow) repurposed glass jars ($0). Funny, because I've drank some truly spectacular wine in that time, which I enjoyed with food and company. Now I'll ask you to return the favor and tell me how much you spend per year on stemware?

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

I'd just add that "rough" and "alcoholic" are "deeply personal" adjectives, which for someone else (me obviously :)) might mean "mineraly" and "downright tasty." I'd choose plastic over glass any day if it meant avoiding the affect and posturing, and actually enjoying actual wine in actual life. Eschewing plastic cups is simply a stab at lifestyle branding which I am all too happy, in a deep-recession economy, to see go into the dustbin-- hopefully once and for all.

One note with plastic cups that I've found helpful when hosting: Go for the 8-oz rather than 16- or 32-oz. It'll keep the wine flowing longer!

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Wine and Plastic Cups: Not a Perfect Pairing

I must respectfully disagree. Keeping in mind that wine is very much clouded (metaphorically and sometimes literally) by affect, I see nothing in the post to indicate why plastic might be worse. I only see that the writer found it objectionable herself. Some drinkers might enjoy more acidity, "alcoholic"-ness, or "rough"ness-- often a result of the wider mouth of a plastic cup. With food, this might occasionally even be preferred. Further, it might introduce the drinker (drinking being the principal thing meant to be done with wine in real life, not tasting, though the latter is clearly part of the former) to different qualities of a wine they thought they knew.

In real-life situations-- summer bbq's, dinner parties, outdoor concerts, etc.-- the wine has already been subject to any number of conditions: how the wine got to its destination, how long the bottle's been open, what food is (or isn't) being eaten, what/how much wine has already been drank... even whether or not the wine is corked! (Yes, apart from a self-selecting few, we all have drank corked wine whether we realized it or not-- and sometimes enjoyed it). Any of these variables and others will affect what the wine ultimately gets poured into-- sometimes dwarfing the importance of the vessel, worsening it, improving upon it, but most importantly bringing new experiences to light.

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