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From Serious Eats: New York

Michelin, Yelp, Zagat: Who Can We Believe?

I would trust a survey type review (Michelin, Mobile) over an individual one (Bruni). Nothing against Frank, but the surveys send more people over the course of the year. Survey also aren't the general public (Zagat). Private surveys allow for consistency to be checked, anonymity to be maintained and no "cheerleading" for ones favorite celebrity chef.

If I may address Stevie's comment on Bruni: Frank gave Jean Georges a 4 star benediction. He has a firm belief that the quality of the dishes at some of his establishments suffer due to the fact that he has many to tend to.

I will admit however that it seems awkward to have Frank Bruni's negative remarks on some of JG's restaurants in his blog and yet the New York Times is co-sponsoring the tribute dinner for Mr. Vongerichten at the Miami Food and Wine Festival this coming February.

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From Serious Eats: New York

Michelin, Yelp, Zagat: Who Can We Believe?

Ed - What you call "citizen brigades," especially the on-line version, is what I call the "Tyranny of the Internet." Accepting free food from those who you review is unquestionably an act without merit or ethics - and some very popular reviewers on-line have engaged in and continue this despicable practice. But the tyranny in my mind comes from the hordes of self-payers who are without credential to practice restaurant reviewing. There are too many cases of petty and repeated thrashings of good neighborhood restaurants on-line that have resulted in loss of business and the tarnishing of reputations. I'll take Bruni, Platt and Michelin any day over the Zagat's, Yelps, menupages, community bulletin boards and other uneducated amateur gourmets who blog incessantly about restaurants - just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it's worth listening to.

From Serious Eats: New York

Michelin, Yelp, Zagat: Who Can We Believe?

I Just wanted to tell you how much I love your website, the critic system is having its revolution and it's healthy to see that kind of counter power emerge.
I read the article in the WSJ about the bloggers getting comped by some restauranteurs, in this article the Zagat people were saying that they are able to find out about those restaurants who ask their employees to vote for them. But to be totally fair don't you think they should do the same the other way too? let me explain, imagine some one wanting to harm a restauranteur because he's a direct competitor or he screwed his wife, or for any other reason. The guy asks a bunch of his friends to put bad reviews on Citysearch or to vote against him in the Zagat just to harm the guy, don't you think it can happen too?
My point is that it's time to demonstrate the unfairness of those kind of guides who just put up a computer system that uses and compiles the reviews they get on line and throw up a rating without doing their job to go and check the fairness by themselves. We all know the Zagat is filled with incoherences and still be (partially) responsibles for undeserved successes and failures.

Keep up with the good job !

From Serious Eats: New York

Michelin, Yelp, Zagat: Who Can We Believe?

I agree with zapatista on Chowhound. I tend to trust the New York site, because I figure even as amateurs, New Yorkers eat out a lot and have a lot of choices so they know their stuff when it comes to restaurants; but when I checked out my own local market I disagreed so strongly with so many of the recommendations that I had to assume that the reviewers are not serious food or dining people. As a result I don't go anywhere near it for my own local area!

From Serious Eats: New York

Michelin, Yelp, Zagat: Who Can We Believe?

me3dia,

yes, i read it. in fact, let's revisit verbatim what the WSJ said about Batali:

"For Mario Batali, the tipping point was an article on Eater about a dispute between him and one of his restaurant's landlords. In response, he wrote an article for the site titled, "Why I Hate Food Bloggers," in which he decried blogs as bastions of "untruths, lies and malicious and personally driven dreck."

My whole point was that ppl are quick to bag on bloggers, case in point Batali. Really, I doubt Batali hates bloggers. Did I read his post on Eater when it first came out? Yes. I even commented on that post on Eater.

To answer your question. Yes. I read the WSJ article. Yes. I read Batali's post on Eater. What is it that you wanted to address about that?