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Early Returns on New Dining Survey Not So Favorable
"And in the rating system you use, their opinions wouldn't carry a lot of weight because they can't rate as many restaurants as others do."
But I just posted a list of people, some of whom make quite modest incomes, who rated more restaurants than people who have significant wealth.
Early Returns on New Dining Survey Not So Favorable
Well your prior post made a snarky comment saying that it should be called, "The Rich New Yorker's Guide to Dining in the U.S. and Europe." Your last post tones that rhetoric down quite a bit which I appreciate. As to who actually practices this hobby, I took a look at the list of our top weighted participants which included exactly two wealthy businessmen from NYC (me included LOL.) Others professions on the list were:
Human resources manager in London
Project manager at a financial printing company in London
Investment banker in London
retired architect NYC and Paris
young attorney in NYC
professor in N. Cal
psychologist in NYC
professor in Chicago
Nuclear Arms expert in Wash DC
Political writer in London
Accounting clerk in London
eBay seller from Canada
Fashion model from Paris
Actuary from California
Housewife from California
Computer consultant from London
Computer executive from Northern Cal.
While some of the people on the list are high income earners, there are also those who do not make a lot of money but who save in order to take two or three trips a year for the purpose of dining. You have also twisted around a comment of mine when you said,
"And while experience with fine dining might be necessary to be an authority on high-end restaurants, I'm not convinced that experience alone necessarily makes one an expert."
Nowhere have I made that claim. What I have said is that experience is a fundamental component of being an expert on any topic, and by offering a blended opinion of people who might qualify to be experts, the results are more reliable than other guides on the market.
Early Returns on New Dining Survey Not So Favorable
Julia I wish you would read the book before making incorrect statements. In terms of the10 highest rated restaurants in the book they are in order;
1. Troisgros
2. Bras
3. Fat Duck
4. L'Arpege
5. Pierre Gagnaire
6. Urasawa
7. El Bulli
8. L'Astrance
9. L'Arnsbourg
9. The French Laundry
None of them are in NYC. In fact the only that are located 2 in the U.S. are in California. Secondly, your notion about who the book is directed at is misplaced and is unnecessarilly insulting to the people who actively travel to dine out and who do not earn large incomes. There are many people who fit that description who participated in the survey. But your raising it in this context does raise the question, if you are not someone who actively travels around the U.S. and Europe in an attempt to learn about cuisine and to better fine tune your palate, on what basis would you be an authoritiy on this subject matter?
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