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Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I just did a google search and got pages of links to recipes for "Mexican Brownies". Wouldn't it have been better to that than to write a passive-agressive foodboard post that didn't even initially identify what the item you were asked to prepare was?

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Can we impeach Frank Bruni as NYT food critic ?

You are wrong. Bruni doesn't under-rate/under-appreciate any restaurant that is not Italian, a Steakhouse, or haute French cuisine. He underrates/underappreciates haute French cuisine as well.

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Forget Canal Street, the Real Dim Summing Is in Bensonhurst

World Tong is not in Bensonhurst. World Tong is in Borough Park.

I don't know why people always get this wrong. But if you go to Bensonhurst looking for World Tong, you're gonna get very lost.

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Served: Waitress Fantasy

I was so sure this was gonna be about me. Until I remembered that I don't think New Zealand wines suck. And I already know the Hungarian on H's place's list.

Whewww.

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From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I just did a google search and got pages of links to recipes for "Mexican Brownies". Wouldn't it have been better to that than to write a passive-agressive foodboard post that didn't even initially identify what the item you were asked to prepare was?

From Talk

Can we impeach Frank Bruni as NYT food critic ?

You are wrong. Bruni doesn't under-rate/under-appreciate any restaurant that is not Italian, a Steakhouse, or haute French cuisine. He underrates/underappreciates haute French cuisine as well.

From Serious Eats: New York

Forget Canal Street, the Real Dim Summing Is in Bensonhurst

World Tong is not in Bensonhurst. World Tong is in Borough Park.

I don't know why people always get this wrong. But if you go to Bensonhurst looking for World Tong, you're gonna get very lost.

From Serious Eats

Served: Waitress Fantasy

I was so sure this was gonna be about me. Until I remembered that I don't think New Zealand wines suck. And I already know the Hungarian on H's place's list.

Whewww.

From Talk

Is the celebrity chef culture over?

That's ridiculous. When a movie star endorses some product, it's essentially meaningless; the star doesn't purport to have any expertise in the area of the endorsement. Celebrity chefs, OTOH, are supposed to be food experts. So if they endorse some food-related product without fully believing in it, they're betraying their audience, which relies on their expertise.

I think Celeb Chef culture is retarded in general, myself.

From Serious Eats: New York

Off the Beaten Path: Brains at Montenegro Grille

You make it sound like calves' brains is some hyperexotic dish. Really, you want brains, you just have to go someplace like Chez Napolean on the West Side and you can brain out to your heart's content. (I LOVE them.)

From Talk

Dining Alone in NYC?!

I eat dinner by myself all alone. Anywhere with a bar is a good place to eat alone. There is absolutely no stigma to eating dinner alone here. None.

From Talk

I'm so old that I remember (food style)...

I'm so old I remember when Drake's Ring Dings were good.

From Serious Eats: New York

On Banning Photography from Restaurants

tokyorosa: "I don't think photography is restaurants is any worse than people on their cell phones or bluetooth devices or laptops. Nor is it any worse than children who are allowed by their parents to run unfettered anywhere but in parks and at home."

Exactly. That stuff's all unacceptable, too. For exactly the same reason.

From Serious Eats: New York

On Banning Photography from Restaurants

People should realize how dorky and antisocial taking pictures of food is. I don't want to be surrounded by it at a restaurant any more than I'd want to be surrounded by any other kind of inappopropriate public behavior. And at a place as small as Ko (and with such a foodie-intensive clientele), you really can't just ignore it.

From Serious Eats: New York

On Banning Photography from Restaurants

I just got back from Corton. The website asks guests to refrain from using flash photography and cell phones. I accept that gladly. You quote Drew here as saying,

"No, we're not going to stop people from taking photos," Nieporent said. "We'd just like people to be considerate of the other people in the restaurant.""

So why, when I entered, was I told that no photography was permitted. I asked nicely and was told, "no". The host asked the chef and reiterated that it was not permissible. I explained that I would not use a flash. I explained that I would not use the photos online nor for any commercial purposes. Still, my request was refused. I feel lied to based on the website only saying that "flash photography" was not permitted and also the quote here from Drew. So Drew, why is this?

The food at Corton was good but, just like Momofuku Ko, I won't be back. I see no reason to reward restaurants who don't consider my desire for a permanent memory, valid. They can make any policies they like but I still get to chose where I dine. I also chose to deal with people who advertise honestly. Drew said that, "we're not going to stop people" but that is just what they did. That to me is deceptive.

In the interest of full disclosure, the host did comp a round of drinks for us because of this. Still, it, (please, please, pardon the pun, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

From Serious Eats: New York

On Banning Photography from Restaurants

I feel shy about taking pictures of food (I don't know why, but I feel like some sort of freak, the only person on the planet to do this, which is obviously nonsense), and only do so occasionally, but as long as other patrons are being strictly omitted from the images, and a flash isn't used, I don't think this is a problem. True, food is meant to be eaten, but sometimes it is also so impressive visually, I want to show a few friends, and I'll take a shot. I usually only move myself or the dish I'm shooting in order to ensure that other diners aren't in the shot. As long taking a picture or two is a brief, low-key incident, it seems fine.

It seems strange that any restaurant would ban even the taking of photos of the diners at one's own table, as this has been a longstanding tradition, and I can remember seeing this done even when I was a small child (in excellent restaurants), by people celebrating some special event; the waiter was often included in the shot. And let's not forget all those photos of dinners at all classes of restaurants that go back as far as the existence of the SLR camera, at least

On the other hand, use of the terms 'food porn' and 'foodie' should be punishable by law ;)

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Just to let everyone know I emailed the hostess told her I was not comfortable making something I'd never made before (worried that it wouldn't turn out) so I said I'd bring my tres leche cake that I had made before and I hoped would fit her theme. She said great, thanks. I brought it, it was good, all the food was good and we had a good time. The best part? There were tons of kids at the bbq who loved the cake and even the hostess said it was prob better than spicy brownies.

Thanks for all the posts btw. Very entertaining.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Don't let "hostess"'s lack of consideration get to you. As others have mentioned, maybe she's self-involved, or incompetent & the party is overwhelming her.
In any case, promptly (within 24 hours) reply that "her suggestion was interesting" (or whatever wording makes it clear that you don't take orders from her, yet isn't confrontational). And, you're sure you can figure out something to fill out the dessert table by the weekend.
Then, make or purchase something nice. Please don't denigrate yourself with the temptation to be stingy or uncooperative. There's gonna be others at the BBQ who are probably lovely people who maybe are completely unaware of the hostess' clumsiness. Enjoy them, and yourself. GL

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Not churros; not so easy if you're new to making them. Also, they taste best when freshly made and still warm, maybe not possible at a BBQ.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I think there is waay too much over reaction to this. Most of the suggested solutions will humiliate the hostess and are guaranteed to end the friendship. Maybe the hostess is just overly excited about throwing a theme party and forgot not everyone else is as enthusiastic? Maybe she interpreted the offer to bring something as bring/cook anything? Or maybe she really is just rude. In any case, if you like her and want to go to the BBQ but don't want to try your hand at her dish, I say take the high road. Tactfully tell her that you are not comfortable cooking Mexican Brownies, and then offer to bring X (insert whatever favorite dessert you can whip up fabulously).

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Simply don't go too rude for me to deal with no-matter who she is. Do you really need someone like that in your life? E-mail her your regrets. Have your own BBQ and do your own menu. Thats what I would do but I am too harsh for some but you only have so much time on EARTH . Ladies and Gentlemen "START YOUR COALS"

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

SEND HER A LINK TO THIS PAGE!!!
Make the brownies, don't make the brownies, don't go the BBQ---this you have to decide by following your heart,
My thing would be that I'd want to communicate my feelings about the rudeness and if I am feeling passive aggressive I'd do it by
SENDING HER A LINK TO THIS PAGE. Caution, this might end your friendship though.
If she is a close friend you have to come clean about this really bugging you, bugging you enough to start this page!

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Utterly tactless. Do your own thing. Enough food will surely go around and no one will notice, and maybe, just maybe, no one will care but I hope its good enough that they will.
surrah

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I think that is pretty rude. I say you make some regular old Duncan Hines and put a teensy sombrero on top.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

@chardonnay...I was going to suggest a little herbal addition myself...lol.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Maybe you could find some Marijuana and add that to the mix. A good time will be had by all.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

First of all, I am of Mexican descent and have never heard of "Mexican Chocolate brownies"... WTF?! Mexican's in Mexico don't make brownies!

Second, Boy what a rude B*tch to decline an offer and then to ask you for something specific?! And a weird request at that!

All I can say is that I'd bring "whatever" to her party... as long as its good, she'd have nothing to complain about.

If you want to bring something "mexican", try Bunuelos. They sell them at most Mexican supermarkets. I am in So-Cal and these are easy to find in a store called Gigante. Just thinking about yummy Bunuelos, I'm not pissed anymore - YUM!

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

On second thought, it's a barbeque, bring an ice cold watermelon!

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

You asked and she said no. Go with what you want to bring or don't go and if she asks why, tell her she's no friend.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

It's a barbecue not a sit down 7 course meal. Barbecue are normal casual with a lot of things that just a happen. If we make big deal out of everything then the real deals have little consequence.

So why not take the this as a chance to try something new. What's the down side? If it doesn't turn out perfect, you have the good excuse -- never done it before. If it turns out good -- you have another recipe in your arsenal

So make it a learning experience and make it fun. Add something unexpected to make it your own. Barbecues should be fun so make getting ready fun as well.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

First, I'm with @Chgoeditor and@mrstkack, mellow out and make some brownies.
Second, the only mexican brownies I've ever made were with "Acapulco Gold" quite a few years ago. As I recall, everybody liked them.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Since the weekend is past, what DID you bring to this rude hostess? I'm on pins and needles.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

The proper response to this quandary truly lies in the writer's relationship with the "hostess". Is she a good friend or a family member? If so , bake the daggone brownies she requested and go. If she is not a friend or family - tell her no, but don't expect to be invited for any more bbq's.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

mexican chocolate brownies sound simple enough - but do they really have brownies in Mexico? I'm guessing no.

anyway, I am always looking for an opportunity to make something different - it sounds like it would be fun and simple enough - try it!

it may be a little rude - but brownies are so easy

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I laughed at Italiancupcake's "suggestions" until I cried. This was very entertaining!

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I am of two minds here. First, I would have reminded the hostess that she said nothing was needed, just to see her reaction. Then, when she told you what to bring, if you're not familiar, ask her for the recipe! You can try saying "oh, I've never heard of those, where did you see the recipe?" and let her take it from there.

That said, if you want to participate in the BBQ and feel stuck making "Mexican brownies," I would follow the suggestions of some of the other responders. Just make a batch of regular brownies and add spices that would be appropriate. Mexican hot chocolate contains cinnamon, no chiles, although a lot of people probably would expect chile. So if you feel really obliging, make two batches: one with and one without. An easy way is to make a batch that fits in a 9"x13" pan (mix or homemade), add a tablespoon of cinnamon, pour half into an 8"x8" pan, add a couple teaspoons of ground chile (depending upon the chiles you have) to the other half, and pour it into a separate pan. Just be sure you can tell them apart! Bake as usual, take and if anybody asks you can tell them that the hostess told you to bring "Mexican brownies" and you did the best you could not having had them before.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Just make brownies. Boxed if you have to. She has a lot of nerve. I would be tempted to not go at all. I love to volunteer to bring food, but hate to be invited and then asked to bring something. "Pot-luck" dinners are something else entirely. They can be great fun, especially when you give the cooks free rein to bring whatever they want. 5 broccoli casseroles, anyone? Fun.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

I remember RSVPing to a family bbq for a beloved aunt in celebration of her 75th birthday. Before I could even offer to make something I was told I was assigned the task of bringing German Potato Salad. What? I'd never made that before in my life! So, after searching countless recipes I did the next best thing. Went to my local supermarket, picked up a couple of pounds of the stuff, put it in a lovely bowl and brought it to the party.

From Talk

Summer BBQ - How to deal with something tactfully

Wow - how hard is it to make a box of brownie mix? It took you more time to post on this board & read the responses than it would have just to run to the corner for the boxed mix. Who doesn't have cinnamon in their house, unless they just ran out? Or if you are just not a cook at all and can't follow the simple instructions, buy brownies pre-made & throw them on a plate. Quit whining - she was nice enough to invite you, and assumed it would not be a horrible burden to make & bring such a simple thing. I feel bad for the hostess, and think you are really over-reacting.

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