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David Chang Is So Stressed Out
I completely agree, OneWallKitchen. I feel stressed now, someone pour me a drink. And get me some noodles. :)
In Videos: Chefs Taste Test Military 'Meals, Ready to Eat'
Are these the new MRE's? Because I remember seeing something about the whole menu being revamped with better food. Curious if this is what's considered "better."
Why We Should Be Eating Insects
But do they taste like pork? If not, FAIL. :)
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Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Wife and I will coordinate orders sometimes if we're someplace where we want to have a couple things and share them. Depends on the type of place, though!
David Chang Is So Stressed Out
I completely agree, OneWallKitchen. I feel stressed now, someone pour me a drink. And get me some noodles. :)
In Videos: Chefs Taste Test Military 'Meals, Ready to Eat'
Are these the new MRE's? Because I remember seeing something about the whole menu being revamped with better food. Curious if this is what's considered "better."
Why We Should Be Eating Insects
But do they taste like pork? If not, FAIL. :)
Ed Levine's Serious Diet Week 10: Discovering Nature's Best 100-Calorie Snack in Seville
Good job, Ed. Going on vacation to Spain, or anywhere, is normally an excuse to really indulge in good food and pack it on -- unless you really hoof it everywhere, which balances it out.
Oranges in Seville. Noted.
Meet & Eat: Emily Koh
Nice to meet you! Thanks for introducing me to the idea of a table of food brought to you -- I have a new goal. Why hasn't this caught on this the US? :)
Cook the Book: 'Panini Express'
Fontina, roast turkey, arugula, random crusty bread. :)
Cook the Book: Simple Chocolate Mousse
Chocolate cheesecake, absolutely.
Seriously Delicious Holiday Giveaway: Bacon of the Month Club
I like it crisp. I usually use chopped maple bacon in my potato salad recipe, which doesn't include any eggs or onions. It goes over pretty well.
'On Top of Spaghetti' Book Giveaway
My favorite is a 4-cheese lasagne with béchamel sauce. It uses fontina, parmigiano reggiano, mascarpone and ricotta cheeses with walnuts for texture and additional flavor.
It's really amazingly amazing! I think I'll make it tomorrow night -- you know, after a lazy Sunday.
Question of the Day: Memorable fortune cookies ...
No fortune found -- Abort, Retry, or Cancel.
Swear to God. At a normal Chinese restaurant, too (not gimmicky, gives out traditional fortunes hundreds of other times).
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
@mgnnn-While I understand the importance of willpower, I can only be so strong. I ask my fiancee not to bring chips or ice cream home, because they are much easier to ignore when they are not in front of me. Similar forces are at work at a restaurant. Sometimes I just don't want to be tempted, because I have a tendency to give in when faced with delicious morsels!
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Uh-oh - the jig is up. My wife read this post. I trusted you with that inside info Ed! Now there's no way I can claim, "Sorry - I didn't notice that on the menu until just now..."
As for the being able to afford it, I guess I usually do order beyond my means - but hey, I eat for a living, so as long as I tell myself that it's "research," then I can at least justify it to myself - if not to the credit card company.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Wait a minute here! You're a menu low-talker, not a menu-whisperer.
Sheesh, a real menu-whisperer would be an amazing being, able to parse the bestest of the best, never erring in a decision, able to pair dishes, wines, impeccably ....ah...well.....
As for menu low-talkers... sounds a little too sneaky for me.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I kind of don't understand the concept that your dining partner doesn't want you to order something. Is it that they don't want to eat it? Pay for it? Don't want you to eat it? If you are secretly ordering things behind their back do you not want to look into why? If they don't want to eat it, why are they stopping you? If they don't want to pay, that's easily discussed and fixed. If they don't want you to eat it, maybe you have bigger issues. Secretly ordering isn't going to help any of these situations. I see from the comments that many people secretly order as a surprise, that I get and sometimes do myself.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Not a menu whisperer (though I did think it meant having a 6th sense for picking out the best dish on the menu). But a friend and I did do the smogasboard thing once. It was so much fun, and we both had plenty of leftovers. I felt less full after small tastes of everything than if I'd eaten a lot of one entree.
Yes, it's more expensive. Try to do it at lunch if you can. As long as you eat the leftovers, you haven't wasted any money or food.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I don't order that way, but that's because I know I wouldn't finish everything and I hate to waste food. Somethings, like scrambled eggs from a diner, don't make good leftovers. Plus BF and I don't tend to share dishes.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
My problem is I always get busted. This isn't about money it's about food, about the inability to resist the urge to taste, everything. Who says that we are in the wrong for ordering an extra dish, it's not like we are committing a moral sin, it's just another pasta course. Besides life is too short to not order the onion rings AND the french fries...oh yeah let's not forget the butterscotch milkshake...
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
It has never actually occured to me to order extra dishes for the table without asking (except for maybe an appetizer if we are all ravenous)! It just seems gluttonous to have more entrees than people at the table. Do you eat it all or take it home to eat later?
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Funny when I think about it, I only ever order this way at Japanese Yakatori or Sushi restaurants. The menus are often huge and I've never had much of it. In my head I choose a few things that sound good, but once the waiter comes, I can't help but ordering more dishes of the menu on the fly that look interesting.
I'm definitely going to use this technique though in the future if I want something that my companion would nix.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I don't order that way on a regular basis, but when we're trying to create a festive mood for a group, I don't think there's a better way to make people feel a little special than by having a surprisingly bountiful order show up at the table. Well, maybe picking up the tab is a better way—but when we take it upon ourselves to order with abandon, we usually do that, too.
I do also fancy myself the other kind of menu whisperer, sussing out not just the best overall dishes on the menu, but also the best matches for particular dining companions. Usually I keep my mouth shut, but if someone is having trouble deciding what to order and I know them well enough, they may find themselves the recipients of a little unsolicited whispering.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I belong in this club, sorta.
I'm sure Vicky appreciates your adventurous-ness Ed!
Much of the time if I'm satisfied with my dining experience I'll note the joint; and note the items I'm curious about.
My ex and I were guilty of this extensively at my favourite local Norther Chinese place: We've tasted everything on the menu. I think!
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I wasn't thinking about the economics either -- just the indulgence of ordering something extra or unexpected to share. In my case, it's the little things like sneaking in a side of bacon to share with my friend who loves it, but never gets it because she likes eggs benedict better (which doesn't usually have a side of bacon). Or appetizers for the table, or an extra dessert to share with my friend if I know she's on a budget -- stuff like that. I adore indulging my cravings by ordering two appetizers or desserts instead of an entree -- things like that -- unusual ordering habits as special treats and surprises.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
@radley24--that is what surprised me, the post was more about indulgence, but the responses had more to do with economics. I guess what I like about eating out is sharing with people=more calorie savings, even if it costs more, so I can indulge what I like, with others, in a portion-controlled fashion!
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Speaking for myself only...it has nothing to do with being cheap. I didn't think the original post was about ordering for the table, but how much do you order in general when going out and do you sneak more onto the order than planned? I am on a pretty tight budget and going out is a treat, so sneaking more onto the order has never been an issue! If I had the means, I would order as much as I could for the table and happily share.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I tend to order apps for the table without asking if I'm with family or a group of girlfriends.... If know it's going to be a while until everyone stops talking, looks at the menu, and chooses an entree I'll pick something quickly and order it while putting in my drink order. I just make sure it's something shareable and without any polarizing ingredients. Usually one or two people will catch me and the others are happily suprised when an app shows up and they've just started looking at the menu.
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Wow, I'm kind of surprised at the responses. I am far from made of money, but at birthdays I often order a cake with a candle, even if the person said he or she didn't want dessert (and never singing by staff because I'm nice). If I don't do this often it's because I have a small appetite, not out of cheapness, but if someone wanted something but was afraid to order it, I wouldn't hesitate to get something extra for the table.
However, because I don't eat meat, going out to eat is pretty cheap for me!
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
I can barely afford to eat out at all, let alone order multiple dishes, so this is a fantasy I have never experienced!
Are You a Menu Whisperer?
Have done what @Marxy does. Have coordinated with friends so we agree on what we're ordering, then get a sample of lots of dishes. Very nice way to go, as we're not going to eat more than a full appetizer, entree and dessert anyway.
Meet & Eat: Emily Koh
Emily Koh's friends love going to Emily for all of their food outing recommendations :)
David Chang Is So Stressed Out
Ain't it the truth, foodinmouth.
Well I, for one, am glad he's this neurotic and fearful as long as it stays at a level where he can still function, perform, and find happiness when appropriate. A little neuroses and fear within the sphere of your career is good when you're still young, no matter how successful you've already become. It'll push him to keep reaching higher and farther and we, as diners, will only benefit from that. Plus, if fear and anxiety are what created the delights at Momofuku Ko, then by all means, keep it up, Chang.
Read my review of MK at:
http://aftertastebysherry.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/momofuku-ko-lightning-strikes-a-third-time/
In Videos: Chefs Taste Test Military 'Meals, Ready to Eat'
At least they don't have military chocolate any more : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_chocolate .
David Chang Is So Stressed Out
"The New Yorker" never puts its freelance writers' works online. It has to do with their allowing the writers to keep their copyrights.
In Videos: Chefs Taste Test Military 'Meals, Ready to Eat'
MREs may not be so good, but the MRE heaters are kinda cool!
I wonder if Pellegrino makes them taste better ...
Ed Levine's Serious Diet Week 10: Discovering Nature's Best 100-Calorie Snack in Seville
Don't forget Sicilian blood oranges and Bartlet pears,,,roast your own almonds and walnuts as well....
Ed Levine's Serious Diet Week 10: Discovering Nature's Best 100-Calorie Snack in Seville
Ed, I know Seville. I lived about 60 miles from that city from '68 to '74
and the tapas were top notch as well as the sit down meals. Had to watch
what I ate to avoid getting obese even though I was in my early 30's back
then. I am also familiar with Lisbon having vacationed there in 2002. I
agree that it is difficult to get a good meal there if you are not Portuguese.
Most of the major offerings are uniquely keyed to native tastes which are
difficult to assimilate to as a foreigner.
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Wife and I will coordinate orders sometimes if we're someplace where we want to have a couple things and share them. Depends on the type of place, though!