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I have to concur, Wild Turkey 101 and 80 are light years away from each other when it comes to flavor so the difference ought to be considered when evaluating/comparing. As far as quality bargain recommedations go, I have to recommend Seagram's Distiller's Reserve Gin (102 Proof) over any other "Value" Gin. I tried this bottle on a whim (picked up a bottle at $13) and was quite impressed. It's incredibly smooth and sweet if you are looking for that sweet gin taste compared to Bombay Sapphire which is almost flavorless and indistinct like a vodka. Easily defeats Gordon's (trashy) or even ordinary Seagram's which is a little watered down but still above Gordon's in smoothness. For a quality bargain rum it is impossible to beat Bacardi (clear).