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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

If you've a spare patch of yard (or even an empty patio for containers), start a vegetable garden. Not only will you save money, you can know that your food is organic, and you can't get much more locavore than your back yard! We're starting small this year with just some peppers and tomatoes, but will add things on in future years.

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Hard Ciders at Thanksgiving, So Underrated

Fell in love with Strongbow during my study abroad year in Scotland--as my palate's evolved a tad I know there are other options, but there's nothing like a bottle of K (the closest thing I've found in the states) to take me back to drizzly friday evenings in Dundee hanging out with friends and sucking down pints over delightfully greasy pub grub. Considering that the US once was known for ciders, i think it's a shame it's so hard to find a decent brand over here! I must see if I can get our local wine shop to lay in some Aspall...

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Route 66

DH is an El Reno native, but I see the Onion Fried Burger has been covered quite well already. I would also point out there are a few good local tex-mex establishents in town--Serapio's is quite tasty. We live on the other end of 66's Oklahoma span, in NE OK's "green country". Stroud is our traditional halfway stop between OKC and Tulsa, with several great sources of chicken fried steak. Up here in Northeast OK I would suggest Phat Philly's cheesesteaks (downtown Tulsa, a few blocks north of 66), Tally's Diner at 11th (66) and Yale in Tulsa, and any of a variety of taquerias near 11th and garnett in the hispanic part of town. (as always, the fewer white faces you see, the better the food is!) If you're willing to take a detour at 11th and peoria and go north to 3rd street, the Rubicon has the Best Baked potatoes on this planet--smothered with any or all barbecued, smoked, or grilled meats you can think of, always served with a slab of texas toast and a green side salad. (St. John's hospital is about 5 minutes away for emergency bypass surgery needs)

Once 66 re-splits from 44 by the casino east of town, head for Claremore (don't forget to take a picture at the blue whale on the way!), where you can find Cotton Eye Joe's Barbecue and Ron's hamburgers (a local chain that does the best burgers on earth). If you don't mind another detour at Will Rogers Blvd to see his museum, you'll drive past Coney Islander (coneys), Azteca (tex-mex), Napolis (Italian), and Hammett House (Claremore's nice restauraunt--they do great steak and calf fries). 66 is a big deal in Oklahoma, and while I've neglected to mention some of the better known tourist spots (you'll see billboards for all of them from 50 miles off, don't worry), these are all good places where locals will sit down and have a bite on the weekends. Enjoy!

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Chewing the Fat: Alton Brown on Race, Class, and Food

@DanaMc

I'm not totally sure live TV is his thing (I still remember his awkward Letterman and Emeril appearances, tho they were both a while back), but if he'd be willing,I agree that FN needs to stop giving Guy Fieri so much bloody airtime and give AB a talk show about current issues in the food world, and how that impacts/reflects the wider culture. I can just see him chatting about these kinds of issues with Eric Schlosser or Alice Waters, can't you?

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

If you've a spare patch of yard (or even an empty patio for containers), start a vegetable garden. Not only will you save money, you can know that your food is organic, and you can't get much more locavore than your back yard! We're starting small this year with just some peppers and tomatoes, but will add things on in future years.

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Hard Ciders at Thanksgiving, So Underrated

Fell in love with Strongbow during my study abroad year in Scotland--as my palate's evolved a tad I know there are other options, but there's nothing like a bottle of K (the closest thing I've found in the states) to take me back to drizzly friday evenings in Dundee hanging out with friends and sucking down pints over delightfully greasy pub grub. Considering that the US once was known for ciders, i think it's a shame it's so hard to find a decent brand over here! I must see if I can get our local wine shop to lay in some Aspall...

From Talk

Route 66

DH is an El Reno native, but I see the Onion Fried Burger has been covered quite well already. I would also point out there are a few good local tex-mex establishents in town--Serapio's is quite tasty. We live on the other end of 66's Oklahoma span, in NE OK's "green country". Stroud is our traditional halfway stop between OKC and Tulsa, with several great sources of chicken fried steak. Up here in Northeast OK I would suggest Phat Philly's cheesesteaks (downtown Tulsa, a few blocks north of 66), Tally's Diner at 11th (66) and Yale in Tulsa, and any of a variety of taquerias near 11th and garnett in the hispanic part of town. (as always, the fewer white faces you see, the better the food is!) If you're willing to take a detour at 11th and peoria and go north to 3rd street, the Rubicon has the Best Baked potatoes on this planet--smothered with any or all barbecued, smoked, or grilled meats you can think of, always served with a slab of texas toast and a green side salad. (St. John's hospital is about 5 minutes away for emergency bypass surgery needs)

Once 66 re-splits from 44 by the casino east of town, head for Claremore (don't forget to take a picture at the blue whale on the way!), where you can find Cotton Eye Joe's Barbecue and Ron's hamburgers (a local chain that does the best burgers on earth). If you don't mind another detour at Will Rogers Blvd to see his museum, you'll drive past Coney Islander (coneys), Azteca (tex-mex), Napolis (Italian), and Hammett House (Claremore's nice restauraunt--they do great steak and calf fries). 66 is a big deal in Oklahoma, and while I've neglected to mention some of the better known tourist spots (you'll see billboards for all of them from 50 miles off, don't worry), these are all good places where locals will sit down and have a bite on the weekends. Enjoy!

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Chewing the Fat: Alton Brown on Race, Class, and Food

@DanaMc

I'm not totally sure live TV is his thing (I still remember his awkward Letterman and Emeril appearances, tho they were both a while back), but if he'd be willing,I agree that FN needs to stop giving Guy Fieri so much bloody airtime and give AB a talk show about current issues in the food world, and how that impacts/reflects the wider culture. I can just see him chatting about these kinds of issues with Eric Schlosser or Alice Waters, can't you?

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Pinkberry Sues 'Copycat' Fro-Yo Shops

"Monkee's Teriyaki"

Great--now instead of tasty frogurt, I have a horrific vision of Mike Nesmith grilling Davy Jones on a Hibachi...

From Talk

Favorite Food Network Show and Chef

Alton is by far at the top--GE and FoA are two of our few "appointment viewing" series, and he's responsible for about 80% of my cooking skills that I didn't pick up from a relative.

2nd tier, I.E. the show's we'll watch if they're on when we flip past, would be Paula Deen, Molto Mario, Jamie Oliver (mmm), Iron Chef America (if it's an interesting ingredient/challenger), the current reruns of A Cook's Tour, Unwrapped (Marc Summers is fun) and occasionally 30 minute meals if she's doing something interesting (most of her stuff I already know, but I've picked up a timesaving tip or two)

Hate: Dinner "Slightly Difficult", Guy "Fee-eddi" (eyeroll), and most of the travel/competition shows that don't feature Alton ;-)

Dark Lord of the Sith: Sandra Lee

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The Frugal Gourmet

Jeff Smith is one of my three favorite cooking show hosts of all time, along with Julia and Alton. The Frug is where I picked up such educational tidbits as "hot pan, cold oil" and the joys of Parmagiano Reggiano. (I remember turning to my mom as a kid and exclaiming in wonder: "that stuff doesn't always come in a can?!"). I remember doing some research on the case out of curiosity a few years back, and not being terribly impressed by either side's story--my suspicion is that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Anyway, I don't think he deserved to keep his fame/fortune, but to refuse to use his cookbooks and such seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. YMMV, though.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

I taped Jeff's holiday episodes (Thanksgiving/Christmas) along with many others and to this day I enjoy his enthusiasm and zest for life. I watch them to this day because he makes me smile! As for alleged transgression, I understand they are just that: alleged. I didn't know the man personally and I would venture to say from reading above that all but one had never met the man. I have to agree with kratos that a person is innocent until proven guilty and sensationalized media coverage shouldn't count as a jury of your peers. I pray he was innocent and paid his out of court settlement so that he and his family could have some peace. We will never know. I miss him but I have his chuckle, his Handel Watermusic theme song and his sign off to remember him by: "I bid you peace...bye bye!"

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Chewing the Fat: Alton Brown on Race, Class, and Food

AB's persona on the show--two parts science professor, one part smart alec--is a lot of fun to watch, but it's far more interesting to listen to him talk candidly here about food issues that interest him.

And he's right. Although I dip into a lot of recipes from multiple cultures, when I cook comfort food you can tell immediately that my ancestors were Dutch and Swedish immigrants. I instinctively reach for spices my great-grandma would have approved, and I can't lay out a cold cut tray without trying to compose it a bit, thanks to my grandfather.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

Well since this thread seems dead I need to state my view. Everybody who has declared this man guilty of the allegations are really clueless. I guess innocent until proven guilty is just a saying anymore. If you have without a doubt proof then post it. Everybody should realize that everybody who accused the man of such a crime might have a bigger motive ($$$). Since he settled out of court well I guess that makes him guilty, got into a fender bender with some guy and it was not my fault my insurance company settled out of court with the guy guess that makes me guilty. Jeff thanks for all of your culinary wisdom and may you be at the table of good food.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

I remember watching the Frugal Gourmet with my grandfather all the time when I was little. It's sad to know what was going on behind the scenes, but I'll always remember both fondly.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

Much as I hate to date myself (yes, I know, nobody else will...), I grew up watching not Mr. Smith the Frugal, but Mr. Kerr the Galloping. TV chefs that style themselves "The...Gourmet" seem to get comeuppance in the fullness of time. Still, I learned quite a bit from each in their season, and identify more strongly with Kerr's weakness than Smith's.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

Along with Julia child, his show was one of the first cooking shows that I watched. As a kid, although I loved Julia I also found his food and his techniques much easier to understand. I don't know much about the allegations, but I hope they aren't true.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

I'm sorry to know that "The Frug" is dead and sorry to know about his scandal. His was a fun and useful show. I bid him peace.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

Jeff Smith (January 22, 1939 – July 7, 2004) was the author of a dozen best-selling cookbooks and the host of The Frugal Gourmet, a popular American cooking show which began in Tacoma, Washington and aired on PBS from 1988 to 1997, and consisted of 261 episodes.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

Loved "The Frugal Gourmet", by far one of the best cooking shows ever done. TVFN could learn a lot by watching his shows and stop with the idiot personality angle. Jeff Smith taught me one thing about cooking that I still carry with me... "Food, is a celebration of life"... truer words were never spoken. As to the stuff that happened to him in his personal life, I cannot speak on such issues as I don't know, and neither do any of you the "Whole story". He has no doubt by now, answered to the only being capable of knowing his guilt or innocence.

"I bid you peace"

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

His cooking show was truly the best I've ever seen. I'd never watched cooking shows before until The Frugal Gourmet, but it was an amazing education delivered with compassion and caring. I got a chance to meet with Jeff on several occasions and he was always the most caring and gracious person. Yes, he was a minister and came from a Methodist background. In his shows and his books he often shared messages of compassion to care for our elderly who ate TV dinners alone, or to remember to put meaning in our holidays.

He was certainly the cooking celebrity of his time and I don't know if he was guilty or simply a target that money, not jail-time satisfied. We will never know what really happened, but there but for the grace of God go you and I. It is wrong to judge someone without walking in their shoes and knowing the facts. I can only speak to my experience of his deeds which spoke volumes of caring and compassion.

From Talk

The Frugal Gourmet

I would watch the frug again in a heartbeat. His was a much better show than all that Food Network stuff. They have taken every bit of originality off their network. Their shows are all the same --

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

(In the same spirit of peachypear's suggestion) Invest in a nice set of tupperware, including ones that are fit to hold sandwiches.

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

Skip the disposable utensils at cafeterias and takeout. Instead, keep a set of flatware at your office that you can wash and reuse.

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

Have to agree with Michal Z and disagree with the original post re: bananas. There are other ramifications of buying organic other than just one's personal health. Buy organic bananas--as well as shade-grown coffee-- if you possibly can--it is critical to habitats.

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

I plan to eat much less meat so that on the occasions that I do eat it, I can afford to get something more environmentally responsible and delicious.

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New Year's Resolutions for the Eco-Friendly Eater

Bananas are one of the least organic products in the universe! The amount of chemicals and forest destruction that go into the production of this wonderful fruit far outweigh the safety and compostability factors.

From Talk

Route 66

Hey, my wife and yellow lab are taking the same trip in the fall of 09 as well. We began the same way you have; picking up books, maps and searching the internet for tips and ideas. In addition to LaQuintas, many Best Westerns are also pet-friendly. Over the winter and spring I plan on calling a number of places to talk with folks live regarding having pets at motels and eating establishments and will let you know what I find out. Happy planning!!

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Hard Ciders at Thanksgiving, So Underrated

OKLibrarian, I'm not sure what part of the country you live in, but I've never had a problem finding Strongbow in the Midwest or Northeast (literally any grocery store in WI has it). I've recently relocated to CA so I'm not sure about the availability here... I'll have to check at the 'ol Safeway.

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Hard Ciders at Thanksgiving, So Underrated

Try perry...it's cider made from pears. Not as sickly sweet as most apple cider.

Also, look out for local ciders. I live in Cambridge, and the university club has a cloudy, non-fizzy cider made locally which is incredible. Just because it's local doesn't mean it's good, but it's a great way to expand your palate and learn what you like.

From Talk

Route 66

MoEats is right. We lived in St Louis briefly and Ted Drewes is an institution with a well deserved reputation. Just a little stand where you get your ice cream and stand around outside. It's always crowded but doesn't take long. Get a strawberry concrete. YUM!
It's frozen custard, called a concrete because you can turn it upside down and it doesn't go anywhere.
Just about everywhere in St Louis is dog friendly. I was very surprised.

From Talk

Route 66

Thanks to Adam for reviving this thread and thanks to all who are replying. I am making notes of all the replies as well as studying road guides, websites and a great DVD series I bought. We are thinking about our trip just about every day!

From Talk

Route 66

Here's Marian Clark's blog if you want to see more of what she's discovered on Route 66:

http://route66cookbook.homestead.com/welcome.html

From Talk

Route 66

If you want to scope out some of the classic eateries along Route 66, I'd first suggest finding a copy of "The Route 66 Cookbook" by Tulsa native Marian Clark. She researched places along the entire stretch of Route 66 and gives synopses of many diners, burger joints, restaurants, etc. She even includes recipes. You can get great ideas from the book. If you settle on a place that you see featured in the book, you might want to check an online phone directory and call ahead, as some of the places are known to shut down. It'd be a drag to set expectations on a place only to pull up and find that it's been shuttered.

As for the Oklahoma stretch of Route 66, I can also enthusiastically suggest stopping for a fried onion burger in El Reno at any of the places mentioned by previous commenters. And as OKLibrarian mentioned, Serapio's is a great place to enjoy Tex-Mex (also in El Reno). I have an unfortunate fondness for their homemade flour tortillas. I say that it's an unfortunate fondness because they are really good and I tend to eat more than one.

Tally's Diner, as mentioned, is a good place for breakfast. You get a lot of food for a little money. They serve gigantic cinnamon rolls, a meal in itself and served anytime, and not for those counting calories. The last I knew, Tally's was open 24 hours so you can stop in anytime you might be passing through. I can't really vouch for the lunch and dinner menus at Tally's (maybe the fare just wasn't to my personal tastes) but it's been a couple of years since I've eaten there so things might have changed.

Just east of Oklahoma City, in Arcadia, check out Pops (pops66.com). They have a selection of around 500 sodas of all flavors and brands. There's a small restaurant area when you can get burgers, shakes, etc. You can even fill up your car out front. It's a popular place and is most often packed. If you can visit/drive by at night, there's a cool neon soda pop bottle out front. Pops has been open less than two years but is a Route 66 icon that blends old-time Route 66 charm with a modern hipness. It's popular with locals and tourists alike. Sorry if I sound like a commercial for Pops but I just think it's a neat place.

It's probably too soon to wish you safe travels since your trip is still 10 months away, but have a good time!

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