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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

From reading Ken Rockwell's site, you might want to consider the new Nikon 35mm f/1.8 instead of the 50mm - he really seems to like it for low-light photography

MikeV
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Serious BBQ: Last summer days with the grill.

My favorite barbecue sauce is a variation on one from Cook's Country magazine. I like it because it's a no-cook recipe; just whisk the ingredients together, and you're done:

Easy barbecue sauce recipe

MikeV
dadcooksdinner.blogspot.com

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Grilling: Buffalo Wings

I had the same burnt skin problem when I tried cooking my wings over direct heat. I spent the whole cooking time flipping, moving, and jockeying the wings around. A few were blackened anyhow:

Grilled chicken wings with spicy asian glaze

I agree with you, that indirect heat is a better way to go. My only problem with the indirect method is you can't put as many wings on the grill:

Grill roasted chicken wings

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

From reading Ken Rockwell's site, you might want to consider the new Nikon 35mm f/1.8 instead of the 50mm - he really seems to like it for low-light photography

MikeV
dadcooksdinner.blogspot.com

From Talk

Serious BBQ: Last summer days with the grill.

My favorite barbecue sauce is a variation on one from Cook's Country magazine. I like it because it's a no-cook recipe; just whisk the ingredients together, and you're done:

Easy barbecue sauce recipe

MikeV
dadcooksdinner.blogspot.com

From Recipes

Grilling: Buffalo Wings

I had the same burnt skin problem when I tried cooking my wings over direct heat. I spent the whole cooking time flipping, moving, and jockeying the wings around. A few were blackened anyhow:

Grilled chicken wings with spicy asian glaze

I agree with you, that indirect heat is a better way to go. My only problem with the indirect method is you can't put as many wings on the grill:

Grill roasted chicken wings

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I use my pressure cooker often. It's great for braises, or anything you would cook at a simmer for a long time - the pressure cooker turns the "long time" into a much shorter time.

I like my Fagor Duromatic 10 quart - it's big, and relatively cheap, compared to the Kuhn Rikon models.

The killer application for my pressure cooker is making Chicken or Turkey stock. Here's my recipe:

Pressure Cooker Turkey Stock

This lets you make stock while you're cleaning up the kitchen, with the carcass of the bird you just cooked; homemade chicken stock in an hour!

I make a batch every now and again, and freeze it in 2 cup containers for later use. I can't use the canned stuff from the store any more, this just tastes so much better.

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

@justchowbella - besides just reading and looking at lots of food magazines, I'd look for some websites like Matt Bites (he keeps promising he'll do more how-to's) and books like Food Styling for Photographers (more on the food styling side of things, but I find thinking about how they set up the shots helps me shoot if that makes sense).

@Julian - that's why I'll generally go at lunch or ask for a spot tucked away. I try to not be intrusive, but then again, I'm in Asia and EVERYONE takes pictures of their food, even if it's with a point and shoot or cell phone.

I don't know other's experiences though, but I find with the 5D's low light performance (no problems shooting 1600 ISO for web and print) & a nice IS lens like the 24-105 F4, I can regularly use it sans flash if I want. A lot of restaurants have a sort of "table spotlight" and you can place the dishes there and get something nice. Not the greatest pics in the world here, but all taken without flash, an F4 lens, and a bit of holding my breath - http://accidentalepicurean.com/2009/06/hutong-kowloon-hong-kong/

It's not my prefered way of shooting, but you can get by.

Paul

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

Old-school photographer here. I still shoot on film with fast prime lenses and calculate f-stops on the fly, including fill-flash-- all, including focus, done manually.

Pictures of food in restaurants with no lighting help? I don't mean to be a downer, but you're not going to get good results regardless of the lens. That said, even an f/1.8 lens might be too slow, at least at 50mm. At 50mm, you're looking at shooting at 1/60 (shutter speed) handheld at the slowest, which isn't going to be enough in the subdued lighting of a restaurant. And 50mm is going to be too long to use an improvised tripod on the table. Then again (I'm thinking as I type), a wide angle lens is going to give odd perspectives.

A 50mm 1.2 will give you an extra stop of light (i.e., use half the light), but be much more expensive. Likewise a 28mm 1.8 will also give you another stop of light (handheld shutter speed of 1/30 vs 1/60 with 50mm), but will also be expensive.

I'm not that familiar with the D70, but I don't think it's a full-frame (i.e., same coverage/sensor size as 35mm film) camera, so my handheld shutter speeds numbers may be too fast for your camera.

Like accidentalepicurian says above, stay away from zooms for low-light performance. For anything macro, though, you'll need a tripod, and still need lots of light (e.g., strobes) if you want anything over an inch of depth-of-field.

Here's the bottom line-- if I were shooting this for money, I'd get permission from the restaurant and shoot 85mm on a tripod with lights, if they let me, or worse-case, sans lights, but still on a tripod. If you have to do it hand-held, go as wide and fast as you can afford (Nikkor 14mm is nice but expensive, 20mm is more affordable). Check keh.com for used lenses-- I've bought a lot of used gear from them and have never been disappointed.

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

the 50/ f1.8 is a very good choice in low lighting since the aperture can go low. It's enough to capture enough light (of course along side tripod).

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

This is posted in just in time. We were thinking about getting a new lense for low light photos (restaurants), but I don't understand enough about cameras to even understand some of this seemingly great advice. I'll ask my husband to read it. haha

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

@AccidentalEpicurian Menu bounce is genius, even if it's still a little intrusive to other diners.

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

I use a fixed 50mm f/2.5 canon lens, and usually stop it up to around 3.5 or so, because I find that the depth of field at 2.5 is really too shallow for all but the tightest of shots. This does mean that you have to compensate by bumping up the ISO (about 800 is the highest I'll ever go to - any more and even at blog quality, it's grainy).

Two tricks I find extremely useful:
1) If you can't use a tripod (and it's kinda rude to do that in a restaurant unless you're on some kind of assignment and the staff knows it), set up a "tripod" on the table. A water glass usually is the best option. Just ask the waiter for an empty water glass, then rest your camera on it to steady it. Depending on how steady your hands and how stable the glass/water contraption is, you'll find you'll be able to get nice, blur-free photos even with the shutter speed bumped up to several seconds

2) Keep a tiny flashlight handy in your bag. I use a small LED bicycle light (the kind that attaches to the front of the bike). It costs about $10, and is bright enough that you can use to to spotlight food bright enough to take a flash-less, tripod-less photo. It's not ideal because it generates some harsh shadows, but for blogging needs, it's much better than nothing. It helps to have a friend with you to hold the light while you take the picture.

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

I use a fixed 50mm f/2.5 canon lens, and usually stop it up to around 3.5 or so, because I find that the depth of field at 2.5 is really too shallow for all but the tightest of shots. This does mean that you have to compensate by bumping up the ISO (about 800 is the highest I'll ever go to - any more and even at blog quality, it's grainy).

Two tricks I find extremely useful:
1) If you can't use a tripod (and it's kinda rude to do that in a restaurant unless you're on some kind of assignment and the staff knows it), set up a "tripod" on the table. A water glass usually is the best option. Just ask the waiter for an empty water glass, then rest your camera on it to steady it. Depending on how steady your hands and how stable the glass/water contraption is, you'll find you'll be able to get nice, blur-free photos even with the shutter speed bumped up to several seconds

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

Also for the love of real information please stay away from Rockwell and others, half the time doesn't even have the equipment in his hands when he writes a "review"...just speculates on specs...like reviewing a restaurant by proxy via a perusal of the menu :D

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

Stay clear of the 18-200 or any of those mega zooms. Not going to help with low light at all. In fact it'll hurt.

I assume the 28-75 is the 2.8 version so any macro wouldn't necessarily bump the low light performance...but might give you better images overall (used copies of the Tokina 100 2.8 macro, Tamron 90 2.8 or Sigma 105 2.8 are all great choices.

The primes listed above are all great as well. The 50 1.8 is a must own for any photographer...the price is as much as a dinner out for two :)

Lighting at venues doesn't have to be intrusive. Sometimes I'll ask for an out of the way table to set up an umbrella or two with camera strobes...or I'll use one and bounce it off a white menu held close and use a table tent with white piece of paper in it for a fill card :D

Paul
http://accidentalepicurean.com

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

I have the Nikon 35mm/f1.8 and the 50mm/f1.4. They're both fabulous for low light. You can shoot either in natural, window light without worrying about a flash. You can also shoot fairly wide open for nice depth of field.

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Food photographers: which lens to get for low light conditions?

Everything old is new again...In my old photojournalism days, the 28/f2.0, 35/f1.4, 50/f1.2, 85/f1.4, 105/f1.8, 135/f2.0, etc. were my standard tools. Pay close attention to your plane of focus when shooting wide open, because your depth-of-field is minimal, especially close-up.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

One of the first things my grandmother taught me to cook was a braised pot roast in a pressure cooker. I still use her recipe (and pressure cookers), 45 years later and was happy to be able to make it for her until she passed last year at 101.
I have four of varying sizes, from a four quart up to an antique giant for canning. I have never had any problems, not even a blown gasket.

Whole large artichokes take ten minutes.
Brown rice just needs to be heated to cooking pressure for a minute or two, then turn off the heat and let it come to room pressure and it's done!
I never soak legumes, and stews and soups are a spur-of-the-moment inspiration instead of a military campaign.
And they save energy costs!
My only caution is to avoid non-stick surfaces: they seem to separate and pit easily in pressure cookers.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

Oh robincat...I can so relate. As a kid, my favorite story was told by our elderly neighbor of "the lady and the pressure cooker". We'd beg her to tell the story over and over. I never found out if it was true, but basically it was about a woman who opened her pressure cooker too soon while cooking a chicken and it exploded all over her kitchen. Much as I loved the story, it left me in total fear of pressure cookers. When I received one at my wedding 20 years ago, I promptly returned it, much to my husband's dissappointment. I wish you luck!

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

ChelseaGuy52 - QVC has a 4 quart Cooks Essentials electronic one that has everyone talking!!! I have an 8 qt stove top model that works well, but really want this 4 quart one...

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

Ever since my mom's pressure cooker literally exploded, spewing a geyser of boiling applesauce across the kitchen ceiling, I have had a pressure cooker phobia as well. I don't miss it, like a crockpot - everything tastes like stew. And I don't can.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I recently for a 6 qt electric PC at the local thrift store. It is an older model, but looks very well cared for, so I purchased it. I've only used it a few times, and I was very pleased with the food. I am anxious to get more recipes for PC cooking. My better half is a workout fanatic, so we watch our meal menus very carefully.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I recently for a 6 qt electric PC at the local thrift store. It is an older model, but looks very well cared for, so I purchased it. I've only used it a few times, and I was very pleased with the food. I am anxious to get more recipes for PC cooking. My better half is a workout fanatic, so we watch our meal menus very carefully.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I love my Kuhn-Rikon pressure cooker-simply the best-made in Switzerland.

http://kuhnrikon.com/products/pressure_cookers/

European and Indian kitchens always have a pressure cooker for quick work on less tender cuts, beans, etc. Dangerous? Less of an issue than using a barbecue!

I have a Fagor pressure cooker/canner-a must for non-acidic canning. Pickles or tomato sauces are fine using BWB but not meats or fish and most other things. It is stainless and can be used as a saute pot or a pressure cooker.

My favourite cooking method is braising the old fashioned/French way in Staub cookware.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

Pressure cookers are awesome! They are totally safe; just read the directions and invest in a nice new one (I have a Fagor & love it). I only had one mishap; I overfilled the cooker &, just before it was ready to come off the stove, the valve spewed a combo of steam & cooking juice, which was aimed at the back of the stove. It only made a small mess, but it taught me a lesson; don't overfill. But, by all means, try it; it's so amazing that you can make a stew or piece of meat in such a short time that tastes like it was cooked all day. The flavors just permeate the ingredients. One try & you'll be hooked! There are tons of recipes (desserts, too!) online & oodles of books out there. It's the most underrated & versatile cooking tool around.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I consider my pressure cooker an essential part of my kitchen gear. The meat and bean dishes that come out of it are consistantly superior to preparing the same recipes with a regular braise method.

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

looking for an electric pressure cooker, any recommendations???

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

In India pressure cookers are much the way of life, and I 'proudly' own 3. LOL. No day goes without the use of this wonderful contraption, and no, it doesn't explode. Just needs some TLC. Look for signs like less pressure build up, steam escaping from the sides etc. That's when you might need a gasket change. Otherwise it's the best green option for the Earth!

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

I have one thats pretty old but the seal is still good on it. I put some italian beans onion and tomatoes in it and cooked them 3 or 4 minutes and it was wonderful. I love my pressure cooker!!!!

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Pressure Cooker Phobia?

Sure you can do without a pressure cooker. But you can save a lot of energy ($$!) and time by using one. It's environmentally friendly and economical!

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