well weak and watery coffee is more a result of not using enough of the beans to brew it. You can have a cup of coffee that is plenty strong and bold without tasting bitter and burnt and you can also have a weak cup from coffee that was just roasted too much. Of course, it is all subjective to the drinker's taste..
I'll second Counter Culture. I've gotten some really great coffee form there
http://www.counterculturecoffee.com/
Even if you don't need a spoon to stir anymore, the teaspoon is still just perfect for measuring loose tea.
During my month or so as a cashier, I once had a man buying a box of condoms, juice boxes and cupcakes. I was quite frightened over this.
The new Pike Place roast is "less bold" but it still has burnt undertones to the flavor. It's burnt but just not roasted as dark. They still don't get it.
Good coffee is not supposed to be so bitter. Even without stuff added to it. That's my two cents.
I cannot stand Starbucks coffee. But really what does it matter what it tastes like when you put all the flavorings etc. I think that's what people really go there for, the crazy concoctions of sugar.
Personally, I like strong tastes, either from strong beans or from a dark roast. I am happy that, on the few occasions that I do visit a Starbucks, I will be able to get something better than Pike's Place, which I found tasteless.
i don't understand 'bold' coffee. it tastes burnt (because they're burning it when they roast it) and it delivers less caffeine, since they're burning all the caffeine off. there's a reason 'morning roasts' are light, they wake you up more.
i like my coffee super strong, but i dislike bitter/burnt tasting coffee- i stay away from dark roasts and i am not a starbucks fan.
I served Starbucks for a few years and people would constantly complain that they thought our coffee was old or had been brewed incorrectly (neither were the case)-- we just had to remind them that it was how Starbucks drip is supposed to taste and then we'd end up adding hot water to their cups. I think the Pike's Place is a good idea (they also introduced it as a less expensive cup) and my mom loves it. I just hope they still have it when I come back to the States next spring.
Water Street:
http://www.waterstreetcoffeejoint.com/catalog/coffee.php
they are based in Kalamazoo Michigan. us Kalamazoo-ites are somewhat cultish about our love and obsession with Water Street Coffee (yes, the original location is on Water Street). and Starbucks wonders why they can't make any money in this town.
I went to costarica and went to the Britt coffee platation. It was a very cool experience and I noticed that the coffee they grew was categorized by the land or placing of the beans. It let me learn alot about coffee not only as a drink but as a plant.
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