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Wow, thanks for all the comments! I confirms what I felt. Also thanks to a few of the dissenting users for providing and alternate perspective as well.
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I gotta say, I am shocked and disappointed that this kind of post would make it to the pages of Serious Eats. Not a single one of those outlets mentioned has anything close to what a real Buffalo chicken wing is about.
It reminds me of the "CitySearch" type of surveys where some nameless city votes Pizza Hut #1.... How would your brethren at Slice feel about that?
Well, this is the same thing. Points off for this one.
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
I gotta add a vote for Upstate NY Style - I grew up in Buffalo, went to school near Rochester. I now live in Florida.
Buffalo style pizza as pointed out is a thicker crust, not greasy, often a little doughy but crisp on the bottom. TONS of cheese... and almost always the peperroni is loaded on, smaller in diameter than most, but always with crisp edges on the pepperoni. Bocce is a great example of this.. but almost any roadside pizzeria in Buffalo has this formula.
Living in Florida, I am sick and tired of every kind of pizza place offering only "NY Style" pizza. Big thin floppy slices that taste like cardboard... I never understood the appeal of that. They taste especially crappy the next day cold... and cold pizza should be one of the BEST ways to eat pizza ;)
The more I think about it, I need to open a Bocce-style pizzeria in Orlando...
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How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
@Susquehana - I've had propane before, both times, doesn't change the insurance premium one dime. And the tank is buried.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
Wow, thanks for all the comments! I confirms what I felt. Also thanks to a few of the dissenting users for providing and alternate perspective as well.
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I gotta say, I am shocked and disappointed that this kind of post would make it to the pages of Serious Eats. Not a single one of those outlets mentioned has anything close to what a real Buffalo chicken wing is about.
It reminds me of the "CitySearch" type of surveys where some nameless city votes Pizza Hut #1.... How would your brethren at Slice feel about that?
Well, this is the same thing. Points off for this one.
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
I gotta add a vote for Upstate NY Style - I grew up in Buffalo, went to school near Rochester. I now live in Florida.
Buffalo style pizza as pointed out is a thicker crust, not greasy, often a little doughy but crisp on the bottom. TONS of cheese... and almost always the peperroni is loaded on, smaller in diameter than most, but always with crisp edges on the pepperoni. Bocce is a great example of this.. but almost any roadside pizzeria in Buffalo has this formula.
Living in Florida, I am sick and tired of every kind of pizza place offering only "NY Style" pizza. Big thin floppy slices that taste like cardboard... I never understood the appeal of that. They taste especially crappy the next day cold... and cold pizza should be one of the BEST ways to eat pizza ;)
The more I think about it, I need to open a Bocce-style pizzeria in Orlando...
Why Pepperoni Pizza Sucks
The author clearly is the victim of standard-issue pepperoni. You need to visit the pizzerias that have their pepperoni made for them, based on their own specific recpies designed to compliment the taste of their pie.
The best example I can give of this is the pizza of Buffalo, NY... go visit nearly any neighborhood pizzeria and they likely have a hand-crafted pepperoni. See Bocce... see Bozanas... etc.
Pepperoni is indeed the perfect basic complement to a pizza and is a requirement in my book!
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I find the comment about the resale value well-meaning. It's really not worth arguing this issue further.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I find the comment about resale value odd. I actually passed on purchasing a home a couple weeks ago in part because it had an electric range. The home is in an area with no natural gas, so I could run a LPG line to it easily enough, but for other, additional reasons, I decided to build instead. I will definitely be having an PG tank and line installed so I can have a gas range - I could never go back to electric. I plan to have a small wall built around it on 2 sides so it won't be visible from the street, and I'll plant flowering shrubs around that.
I don't understand why propane would be considered any riskier than NG. It is a much more stable fuel, and there is a limited amount of it on your property, whereas NG is piped in and once it ignites, there's an almost infinite supply to keep burning.
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
This is an awesome page. My comment though is related to the DC jumbo slice. I can confirm that this is the appropriate style for this region as I have spent much time over the years in DC. Their slices at many pizzerias are the size of two average slices. They make a killing off of selling them to the college students. If a 16 inch pie normally has 8 slices, a DC pizza has 4.
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A List of Regional Pizza Styles
I grew up outside of East Liverpool Ohio, I never realized that pizza was made any other way until I moved to college. Bruno's pizza was a friday staple growing up, so much that now when I go home to visit my parents, my mother always picks up a tray. The best part if Ohio River Valley Pizza, is that it tastes just as good the next day out of the fridge! Home pizza in St. Clairsville is VERY good as well. I live in Columbus now, and the pizza just doesn't get to that level, but there is a DiCarlo's off of 256 in Pickerington, although I have not had it.
If anybody passes through Athens Ohio, Goodfella's pizza is a must. They sell by the slice, and it is close to Ohio Valley style, but they use a much thicker sauce. It was perfect after a night uptown at the bars.
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
I just read comment above...(tomdobb)I didn't eat pizza when i came to Columbus but in Canton, Ohio u will get authentic Italian pizza made by the best owned italian family restaurants.
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
Ohio pizza is the best....They actually have some really good pizza places there...The problem that i have is....i'm not there anymore =(....I'm in San antonio,Tx and there is one good pizza place [[Pizzabella]].They have the jumbo thin crust pizza...Its good but nothing like Canton Ohio's Papa Bears Pizza Oven , Wacos Pizza, East of Chicago,Napolians,So many different styles of pizza. And they don't have it in the south =(....
A List of Regional Pizza Styles
There's a mouthwatering style of white pizza which seems to be peculiar to McKees Rocks, PA, just outside Pittsburgh -- I know I've never seen it prepared this way anywhere else and I eat a lot of pie, dude. I believe it originated at Mama Lena's (now Mama Mia's) and has been cloned by former employees at another shop down the street called Doughboys (which is cheaper & maybe even better, IMHO). I've never seen one prepared from start to finish, but here's my best guess as to the general idea: a medium-thickness pizza crust is brushed with olive oil & perhaps garlic or other spices and partially baked, then removed to add a light layer of some kind of white shredded cheese (don't think it's mozz), then baked again until done. The hot pie is then topped with a room-temperature prepared mixture of diced tomatoes, minced garlic, finely chopped onion & basil and olive oil and sprinkled with more shredded cheese. The pie partially melts the additional cheese and warms the topping mixture up to the perfect temperature while preserving the flavor & freshness of the ingredients. On every other white pizza I've had the tomatoes & other ingredients are baked along with the crust which dries them out. This stuff is almost like a big round bruschetta. I'm no longer in the 'burgh, but I might have just talked myself into driving 3 hours each way to get one right now -- it's that good.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
@machineman: One last thing. From the way you worded your inquiry, I was pretty sure you had only natural gas in the past. Not propane. Please accept my apology for that oversight.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
@machineman: That's good! And somewhat surprising, even if that huge propane tank is buried.
Again, I'll recommend Schott's CERAN glass top electric range if, for some reason, you don't go with propane. It's crystal clear that you're going with propane. I get it.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I'm going with ccbweb. I have a new flat top electric and have no problem--plus it is so much easier to clean than any gas one I've had the displeasure to cook on.
I've cooked on both an older gas range and a new Viking and both were nightmares to keep clean.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I would point out that propane cooks a little hotter than natural gas, for what that's worth. I have cooked on natural, propane and electric, and overall would prefer either kind of gas. Even on a new stove, flat top or not.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
@machineman: I sure do wish you had a natural gas utility line running to your property. Your decision would be easy, no? Think about Lorenzo's comment carefully. Resale value matters and not all buyers center their attention on the stove's heat source. Insurance rates matter and it's quite risky to store such a large amount of combustible stuff on your property. And how are you going to hide that bulky eyesore of tank? Aesthetics matter.
Whatever you decide, I hope you are happy and excited about building your new home.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I would think that the gas stove would be a selling point despit the rest of the house being electric. Let's not forget the fact that due to the economy, celebrity chef culture, food network, ecological concerns, and a host of other reasons, people are cooking real food at home much more often than in years past, making a gas stove that much more attractive.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
I'm sorry that only a couple of posters addressed your actual question: whether the newer electric ranges, while they may not be quite as good as gas, are good enough (for a home chef like you). You make it clear in your post that you understand the advantages of gas over electric.
So, I only have one comment to add. If you install the propane system, and everything else in the house--central heating, hot water heater, etc.--is electric, your house may be less appealing to future buyers if you want to sell it. You and other home chefs might think it's a big advantage that the kitchen stove is propane, but others who are not as into cooking may think that the propane system with its bulk tank is a costly white elephant, isolated from the rest of your home's systems that use electricity.
How important is a gas range top vs. electric?
Yep. Sailordave is right. But you might think twice after you see what your home owners insurance rate looks like when you list on your application that you've got a propane tank on your property.
Just a thought. All the best to you!
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I agree with the distate left in my mouth over the anti-chain bashing. You probably know where to get the best wings in your town (I know I do!) But what about those people who don't have a "wing place" in town? For some people its fas food or nothing. And I don't have the money to waste on the worst chicken wings. I appreciate when Serious Eats does stories like this because it saves me time, money, and a lot of frustration.
So thank you for your stomach's time, Erin! I will agree with the decision to put KFC out there as the best all around fast-food wing place. They do the best they can as a chain :)
~*Ery*~
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I applaud your attempt at rating the fast food chain wings. Very interesting article.
I've still never been to popeyes - mainly because the only one I know is across the street from Nathans in Coney Island.. and you know where my allegiance lies...
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
Aww, no love for Atomic Wings? BW3's? Both fast food joints geared towards wings only. I think there are a few stores for these chains in the city
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The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I disagree with @Machine. This was a worthwhile post because it addressed what sometimes may be the only wing options in certain markets. For people who travel for business, there are many places where chain restaurants are pretty much the only option for people other than locals "in the know". The local giveaway weekly in fact does its annual food awards on this basis, e.g. "favorite pizza - chain", "favorite pizza - non-chain" and so on.
I would love to see follow up posts with the same comparison involving more upscale chain wing options, e.g. Buffalo Wild Wings, WingZone, Buffalo Wings & Rings and so on, as well as posts with the same comparison of local establishments in a number of markets. As a former Buffalonian married to a man whose favorite food in the world is wings, I volunteer to take a group around in my local area to do the testing!
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
One thing not addressed in the reviews: how many of the "wings" were actually wings, how many were drumettes (sp?). For me, a wing's gotta be a wing, and anyone who serves all wings gets extra points. The public has a right to know!
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I have tasted wings from all of these chains and I am surprised that Dominoes got recognition for anything positive what-so-ever. I do agree with the KFC comments but, Dominoes wings are slimey,fatty,bland and are not even of decent size. This opinion is not from one try or one specific store neither. I would like to know what cities they tried these wings at because, sad to say it quality is not equal throughout the chains.
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
Wow. Seriously. The authors said, very clearly, in the title of the post, "Fast Food Wings Taste Test." Not wings from a mom-n-pop joint. Not wings from a local place in a big city. Not wings you'd actually find in Buffalo (and yes, upstate New York RULES! Sorry...). Not wings you'd make at home. Fast Food Wings - as in, wings you BUY at a FAST FOOD PLACE. If you didn't want the information, why did you read the post? And then feel the need to bash on it?
I say, thank you. Thank you Erin for subjecting yourself to a load of gut-busting food and mean-spirited comments. I'm sure the wings were easier to swallow.
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
I think that when dealing with franchise chains, the quality of the product depends on said franchise. Upon reading this article a couple of days ago, I thought, hey, let me revisit the KFC wing. All this wing talk had given me some pretty severe cravings.
They were terrible. A wing has to have some crispness. These were just sorta gummy and gross, but I feel sure it's my local KFC. I'd stopped going there a couple of years ago, when everything tasted as though it had been marinated way too long and got that weird slimy consistency in the meat that belongs only in some kind of weird canned food "product."
With Popeye's, I do think they make be best franchise wing. Actually, I think they make the best franchise chicken, period. Though, yeah, they're not so much with the spicy anymore, which is disappointing. They have a good flavor and the breading (at least at MY Popeye's) is nice and crisp.
The Great Fast-Food Wings Taste Test
Popeye's probably had to tame it down because of all the macho idiots who think they can eat spicy and order the hot...then complain about it. Or because it gets them more business to bow to the lame egos of these macho idiots.
I don't understand why people are disappointed when SE reports on stuff like this. I've said it before. SE doesn't stand for "snobby eats".
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@Susquehana - I've had propane before, both times, doesn't change the insurance premium one dime. And the tank is buried.