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Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
My husband was born and raised in the midwest on a steady diet of meat, potatoes and overcooked vegetables. He thinks he turned out OK, but I am forced to point out that something went terribly wrong because he eats raw seafood regularly. It is one of the things I like best about him.
That said, my impatience with pickiness is my problem. I struggle daily to overcome it, but I'm not sure if I could overcome it in a partner. A lot of what we share is the joy of discovering a new hole in the wall, a high end meal, purchasing a dol sot and so on.
The Milk in Pumpkin Pie Debate
I must live under a rock because I never heard about using sweetened condensed milk for pumpkin pie. I love the stuff, so I will try it.
In the past, I have used cream or evaporated milk.
Pricey cloves
I live in California, too. If you go to your local Mexican/Armenian/Chinese supermarket you can get the spices that don't come in jars for about $.99 an envelope. I have been refilling my jars for years. Also, Trader Joe's might have a seasonal Pumpkin spice. Even Target might have it in those giant size containers, "It's Delish" or something like that.
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Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
The Apple brined/smoked turkey sounds really good, so we may do that. Beyond that the usual:
Mashed potatoes w/ roasted garlic
Stuffing
Scalloped yams with praline topping
Green beans almondine
Green bean casserole
Pumpkin pie
Apple pie
There are only four of us, so we keep it simple.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
My husband was born and raised in the midwest on a steady diet of meat, potatoes and overcooked vegetables. He thinks he turned out OK, but I am forced to point out that something went terribly wrong because he eats raw seafood regularly. It is one of the things I like best about him.
That said, my impatience with pickiness is my problem. I struggle daily to overcome it, but I'm not sure if I could overcome it in a partner. A lot of what we share is the joy of discovering a new hole in the wall, a high end meal, purchasing a dol sot and so on.
The Milk in Pumpkin Pie Debate
I must live under a rock because I never heard about using sweetened condensed milk for pumpkin pie. I love the stuff, so I will try it.
In the past, I have used cream or evaporated milk.
Pricey cloves
I live in California, too. If you go to your local Mexican/Armenian/Chinese supermarket you can get the spices that don't come in jars for about $.99 an envelope. I have been refilling my jars for years. Also, Trader Joe's might have a seasonal Pumpkin spice. Even Target might have it in those giant size containers, "It's Delish" or something like that.
Bake Sale Ideas
...and, if you feeling lazy, rice crispy treats always, always sell out at my kids' school.
Any food you could eat daily til' you kick the bucket?!
Sushi
Parmigiano Reggiano
Tomatoes
Focaccia
Asparagus
Berries
Yogurt
Whenever I ponder being vegetarian or vegan, the first two on my list always stop me. Just like I could never give up prosciutto forever.
Kitchen Aid Pasta Attachments?
It is my favorite toy in the kitchen! If you don't cut the dough into strips you can make lasagna. Love it, love it, love it. And it is easy to clean, too.
Gadgets: Rival Crock Pot
Please, o, please post more recipes because all that I have ever made in my Crock Pot bears a striking resemblance to shoe leather. Somehow the forty clove garlic chicken was insipid, the pot roast tough and dry, what is wrong with me? I can do it stovetop in my wannabee LeCreuset, but not in the Crock Pot.
Weekend Cook and Tell: Restaurant Recreations
Does Cinnabon count as a restaurant ; )?
Bake Sale Calamity
@Jerzee, rice krispy treats are always a hit, I just wanted to be different. Hmm, maybe I could mold them into balls and put them on a skewer!
@cityminx, I will experiment with caramel. Caramellows!
@pooch, I am in "the valley" (think Moon Unit Zappa) in Los Angeles. It is a dry heat and feels like about 95 humid degrees in New York, but as you say heat is heat. When the wind blows, it feels like a hair dryer is pointed your way. I really miss seasons.
Thanks for the suggestions!
New York Restaurant Cookbooks
Here are more:
Silver Palate
Rao's Cookbook
Welcome to Junior's!
Chanterelle
Carmine's Family-Style Cookbook
The Shun Lee Cookbook Recipes
Les Halles cookbook
On the Line
Tavern on the Green
Balthazar Cookbook
Jean-Georges
Momofuku
The Russian Tea Room
Dining at Delmonico's
Morton's the Cookbook
why are there so many internet recipes that just don't work?
@bessfour is right about the ratings. I have had good luck on allrecipes.com with things like "Clone of a Cinnabon" and a garlicky baked cauliflower. It does pay to read the comments to see if the finished product will be to your taste.
I just CAN't do it!
The first time my father in law flew out to California he brought tins of Vienna sausages to eat on the plane. I had never seen a hot dog in a can and was equally amazed at the ingredient list which included mechanically separated pork. On the other hand, I grew up with Simmenthal, an Italian version of Spam, so I shouldn't have been that surprised.
That said, I always, always have canned tomatoes, pumpkin and beans on hand. More often than not sardines, anchovies, tuna and coconut milk are also in the larder. I also keep a few of those small tins of Thai curry red/yellow and chipotle chilies in adobo for those Hail Mary meals. And my favorite for homemade frappuccinos is sweetened condensed milk.
Yum, I guess I love cans after all.
I call it "the Colt 45 of wine"
Hey, what about Thunderbird, MD 20/20 or Night Train? Those are wines that come in bottles that fit conveniently in your pocket, no need for a mug, much less a glass.
Seriously, as a fallback I like some of the red blends like Coppola Rosso.
An old obsession finally bites the dust ..
I used to love shrimp and fear mussels, now I love mussels and fear shrimp.
Let's talk knives
Also, keep an eye on Amazon. I bought a fantastic Shun chef's knife for $70. I feel foolish loving a knife so much.
Learning to Make Good Coffee, Suggestions?
Practice and a thermometer. I have a small, low end machine at home. Every morning I steam milk, grind coffee and make a cappuccino (what Starbucks calls a latte). In the beginning my results were haphazard, but now they are pretty consistent. Start with cold milk and at about 100 degrees F. lower the milk so that the nozzle is at the surface of the milk. After a while you don't really need the thermometer, your finger on the metal and the sound will tell you what you should be doing. Clean your machine regularly.
By the way, my low end machine works for me, but add my husband into the mix and the poor thing is stretched. If you plan to have a shop be sure to get a good machine that can accommodate the traffic.
How do you wine experts rate "Two Buck Chuck"?
Try it, if you like it all the better. If you don't, cook with it.
Whatever you do, DO NOT go to the regular supermarket and buy the $3 wine to cook with. I did and the wine was so bad I didn't even dare use it for cooking.
'The Most Revolting Dish Ever Devised'? Or Have You Seen Worse?
@PinkCupcake I agree Paula Deen's Cheesy Ham and Banana Casserole trumps the Jello salads for most revolting recipe ever devised. What is it with the sweet and salty and fatty?
'The Most Revolting Dish Ever Devised'? Or Have You Seen Worse?
Here's an abomination, definitely in the running for worst dish ever divised:
Avocado-Lime Salad
1 pkg. Lime Jello
1 cup hot water
1 cup cold water
1 tbs. green pepper fine cut
1/4 tsp. salt
1 tbs. lemon jello
1 mashed avocado
Dissolve jello in hot water. Add cold water, salt and lemon juice. Cool until thickened, then beat until fluffy. Add other ingredients. Mold and serve with pimento garnish.
Restaurant Naming Problems
How about Calvin Trillin's "La Maison de la Casa House"? Kind of tongue in cheek for those in the know.
Should Fast Food Chains Give Kids Toys?
If there was a McPho or McBibimbap happy meal with a toy I would there weekly. I just want to avoid my two (ages 5 & ) developing a McPalate.
Happy Fathers' Day to all Dads! What's on the menu?
Meatloaf (home ground meat, thanks @juliette527 for the cuts), garlic mashed potatoes, asparagus & key lime pie.
He is from St. Louis and misses meatloaf.
Purple Potatoes from South America
Use them in chicken pot pie. Throw in some yukon golds and you almost have a rainbow.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I canNOT stand a picky eater. His attitude will have a negative effect on your love of food and cooking, and might (ohGod) produce picky offspring as well. Life is to be enjoyed in full - to me, especially if you love cooking and eating and have an adventurous outlook on it. Damn right you need someone to fight with over the last piece of cheesecake. Keep looking - somewhere out there is your soulmate who will give you joy in your life.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
it sounds as if the problem is as much how his pickiness presents itself Vs the actual fact of the pickiness.
you need to negotiate how he goes about tasting and reacting. instead of filling his plate hiding the uneaten, he should take a bite only, then only take more of what he will actually eat. He also must accept that if he rejects what's for dinner, he makes his own substitute.
You, OTOH, have to deal with adjusting your daily cooking to reflect some of his opinions. Cooking can be fun, but the day in day out feeding of your partner & family isn't so much about the fun for you as about the fact that people need to eat. Plus, if he rejects your food in favor or cornflakes or PBJ for days on end, you can't be hurt.
if you someday are having kids, he needs to have learned to reject in a low-key fashion so as not to 'teach' his pickiness to them. I won't go so far as to expect him to sometimes noticeable eat something he is known to dislike, to model polite behaviour. But it would be handy.
PS I was in a relationship in which we had very different food cultures. our inability to appreciate each others standards was but one of many problems. But 3 times a day one or both of of us being annoyed or mad or disappointed sure didn't help. If you cant fine some way to enjoy meals together, some compromises, then hang it up now.
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
There will only be four of us, and none of us are huge turkey fans. So dinner will be a little different.
A steak of some sort (or standing rib roast, whatever)
roasted fingerling potatoes
some kind of vegetable
a salad perhaps
pumpkin pie
maybe an apple pie
a bread of some type
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
Yum to everyone, and I second the request for @dbcurrie to share some more info about the bubble salad. Sounds like a must-do!
My meal will serve 10 people on Thursday, and then we traditionally do Second Thanksgiving on Friday for all of our friends who are required to spend time with family on actual Thanksgiving Day, but for whom we want to give thanks. That's looking like a group of 14 this year. All food for Second Thanksgiving is leftover from the original meal.
Main Meal:
- Dinner rolls - Cook's Illustrated recipe, the triangle-shaped ones
- Beet salad with feta and cardamom dressing
- Turkey - AB's Good Eats version like some others, but spatchcocked or butterflied - that oven time is too precious!
- Mashed potatoes
- Sweet potatoes with orange juice and Calvados
- Thyme-roasted apples and onions - from Epicurious/Bon Appetit
- Green beans with ginger and soya
- Apple raisin stuffing
- Classic stuffing
- Corn Casserole - a bizarre mix of canned, fresh, and ground corn products that my best friend can't go without on t-giving
- Whole cranberry sauce
- Lots of extra turkey gravy - Cook's Illustrated recipe
Dessert:
- Pumpkin Pie
- French Silk Pie
- Cranberry-Walnut Cobbler
Drinks:
- Spiced cranberry punch - MAKE THIS! http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Cranberry-Vodka-Punch-200563 If you like mulled drinks and don't mind getting rather silly, make this sometime this season. It's very strong, but the spices mask the alcohol brilliantly. It's always a huge hit.
- Sparkling juices
- Beer & wine
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
@dbcurrie: You MUST share more detailed instructions/recipe for the bread "bubble" salad; that sounds like the coolest thing EVER!
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
We are traveling to TX for the holiday and there will be at least 15 people there. Besides the normal roast turkey, dressing, giblet gravy, mashed potatoes, homemade cranberry sauce, there will be many sides, a few of which will be fruit type salads andlots of delicious vegetables, a few pies plus I will be taking pumpkin squares, cranberry nut bread and a pineapple zuchinni cake. One of our favorite recipes is Paula Deen's Tugboat turnips and another is our TX corn casserole. Someone will make the green bean casserole which I hate and won't eat. I much prefer fresh beans! I am thinking about taking a few new cookie recipes too! These are my grandchildren!
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
We all have our food preferences. I don't like fruit mixed with foods that are supposed to be savory, savory stuff with raisins, or chocolate mixed with fruit (though separately, I love them both). Other than that, I'll eat anything at least once, maybe twice (I believe it second chances for everyone and everything). I think the thing that bothers you the most is that he doesn't share your passion for food and he doesn't want to even try. The point is: can you live with this? or will it be a thorn in your side that digs deeper with time? If you can't make peace with yourself on this, then walk away. If you can deal with it and have it not affect your dignity and self-worth, then I don't see that it's a real problem.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
My first wife hated eggs, bananas, mustard, my watermelon fruit salad, my top secret recipe 6 grain pancakes, didn't like breakfast in general. Of course, I'm more of a breakfast cook, but her idea of cooking is heating up canned soup (mac and cheese was a highlight of her cooking skills). In fact, when we first got together, the only thing she ate was McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries. (I did get her to eat fresh cut up strawberries.) So when we split, I vowed that I would avoid dating picky eaters.
So of course, my last (I'm planning it that way, anyhow) wife is a great cook - an amateur chef IMHO, but she's vegan (and I'm allergic to the entire legume family). We have great fun trying to create dishes that we can both eat (the entree is always veggies, the protein ends up a side dish for each of us), and she has decided that fried rice with eggs is ok (she is having trouble getting enough protein in her diet). And as a bonus, she loves my pancakes (which I modify by substituting coconut or almond milk for sour milk and/or yogurt), and never complains about my potatoes.
So, as to your problem, drag the bum into the kitchen now and again and make cooking a shared activity - fun-shared, not chore-shared. If he is a good kitchen companion (maybe not entirely his cup-o-tea, but as a special activity), then it will lessen the anti-everything you seem to interpret from him right now, and some of his ideas might end up being useful in figuring out how to feed him when you are cooking without him. If you two can't get along in the kitchen, I'd have to vote for a quick exit strategy.
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
@lakeloverhh - I am making these pumpkin cake squares instead of pumpkin pie. I sampled them at a Williams Sonoma years ago and they are always a hit.
http://www.recipezaar.com/Williams-Sonoma-Pumpkin-Dessert-Squares-263086
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
@lakeloverhh
"Something pumpkin-- not in the mood for pie. Don't want to make a cheesecake. I would love any suggestions from the SE crowd."
Well...
It's called pie, but is more custard in an unusual and lovely presentation...
Baked Whole Pumpkin Pie
4 to 6 lb (2 to 3 kg) pumpkin
6 eggs
2 cups (500 ml) whipping cream
1/2 cup (125 ml) brown sugar
2 tsp (10 ml) molasses
1/2 tsp (2 ml) freshly grated nutmeg
1 tsp (5 ml) cinnamon
1/2 tsp (2 ml) allspice
1/4 tsp (1 ml) powdered ginger
2 TBS (30 ml) butter
Remove the top of the pumpkin and scrape out the seeds and membranes as though you were making a jack-o'lantern. Mix the remaining ingredients together EXCEPT the butter and pour into the pumpkin. Top with the butter, put the lid of the pumpkin in place, and place in a large baking dish. Bake at 350°F (180°C) for 1 to 1 1/2 hours, until the mixture has set. Serve from the pumpkin at the table, scraping a little of the pumpkin flesh to accompany each serving. Serves 6 to 8.
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
Brined turkey
roast pork w/ apple topping
stuffing
mashed potatos
buternut squash
greenbean caserole
homemade mac&cheese
cranberry compote
apple pie
chocolate cream pie
funfetti holiday cupcakes
rolls
gravy
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
Cooks' Illustrated Garlic Mashed Potatoes
Spatchcocked Turkey smoked or roasted haven't decided which
Gravy
Apple and Sausage stuffing in a crockpot
PW's Sweet Potato Casserole
Yeast rolls
Indiana noodles (MIL)
Green Bean Casserole (MIL)
Scalloped Corn (MIL)
Cranberry Sauce
Also thinking about Roasted Asparagus
Apple Pie
Banana Cream Pie
Pumpkin Pie
Sugar Cream pie (MIL)
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Every person you meet and get along with very well isn't necessarily your mate. Food is something you will be sharing with this person for life, 3 times a day plus snacks. Not to mention favorite holiday treats... that adds up to a lot of things you won't be sharing, possibly even arguing about. You love to cook, and may see food as love. His constant rejection of your offerings and likes may over time wear like water dripping on stone and erode love and respect. A very long list of verboten foods is a whole different thing than not caring for a few things. Stay friends if possible but think long and hard about developing more intimacy.
BUT- utimately it's your life, your choice.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think if you were really crazy about this person, his food habits wouldn't bother you as much.
It would eventually chip away at her patience, no matter how much she cares for him. You can only overlook something for so long before it ends up being part of an argument that goes, "Yeah, and another thing..."
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I think if you were really crazy about this person, his food habits wouldn't bother you as much. And, vice-versa, he would make an attempt to be more adventurous.
My husband was a picky eater when we first started dating. Over time, he's broadened his horizons food-wise, and I save the things he really won't eat to savor when I'm having a meal without him. A good compromise, I think.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I married a picky eater-- not quite as picky as yours, but some of my faves are the things he hates. Over the last 4 years, it's been easy to "cook around him": to use ingredients he likes, or just make sure the stuff he hates is in large chunks so he can pick it out and give it to me. I kind of like have double the mushrooms in my coq au vin! The thing is, for me, there was no consideration of not getting married to him because of his pickiness-- because it was SO obvious that we were meant to be together in every other way. So now I have artichokes when I go out, not at home, and I make a side of kale for just myself, and it's no big deal.
I have another friend who passionately loves her hubbie of 20 years, but they eat separate meals-- hers are gourmet feasts, and his are pizza, hot dogs, and pancakes (he has a severe food issues).
So it can be done! But it sounds like there are many other things that make you unsure... trust your instinct on this!
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
We are having a pretty traditional Thanksgiving.
For appetizers:
Roasted spiced nuts
A cheese board
Roasted Vegetable tapenade served with toasted pita chips
For the main meal:
Roast turkey + an additional breast that I'll roast the day before
Amazing gravy (my favorite part of the meal ... everything tastes better with gravy!)
Mashed potatoes
Dressing with sage
Carmelized pearl onions
Broccoli cheese casserole
Corn that we cut off the cob and froze during the peak of corn season.
My great great grandmother's clover leaf rolls ( I made these this past weekend and froze them)
Brown sugar glazed sweet potatoes
Homemade cranberry sauce
For dessert:
Something pumpkin-- not in the mood for pie. Don't want to make a cheesecake. I would love any suggestions from the SE crowd.
Apple pie.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
I'm sorta torn. To some extent I do agree with tapioca. If food is your passion then there is no real way it's going to work out (and you kinda knew that). I am sorta dealing with the same thing, but the exception is that it's only a couple of things and of those things the problem is that he has eaten canned versions and not fresh versions. So I am slowly converting him. I'm still working on cucumbers and pickles - he's German can you imagine him not liking pickles, isn't there some rule about pickled food and Germans. Anyway - if it were a few things then I'd work around it but he seems pickey like a child and for me that's a big red flag.
Years ago someone told me that you can tell everything about a person by what they eat...she was so right
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Wow, what a thread! And what a smorgasbord of advice! This guy must have really swept you off your feet in every other way for you to have endured his food fetishes for a year. Or, you are selling yourself short that there isn't someone out there who is perfect for you. And someone else perfect for him.
Thanksgiving Menu what is yours?
@betteirene - hope you get this. Sounds like you are busy and I won't rush you, but sometime next week after your Thanksgiving, will you please post your method of cooking sweet potatoes in gingerale with the fresh ginger and butter? Out of all the posts here, this one intrigues me the most. Up here in Canada, sweet potato pies with marshmallows and brown sugar, etc. are almost unheard of, and frankly, they do not sound appetizing. However, your recipe sounds like it would be worth a try. Thanks and have a great day - we have large family celebrations as well and I know how much fun you will have.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
At this stage of a relationship, I dump this guy faster than a hot potato. For anyone who is a subscriber to Serious Eats, food is important (along with wine and other stuff). So connect with someone that shares this passion not someone who is going to disparage or pick at everything you love about food. Get to the core of the issue and stop fretting about symptoms.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Being with someone who starts out a picky eater but eventually decides to expand his horizons is not the same as being with someone unwilling to budge. One is a victory that opens up a whole new world of flavors - the other is a huge pain in the ass.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
@WannabeTVchef - Food allergies are hardly rare. According to the American Academy of Allergy Asthma and Immunology, approximately 12 million people (or about 1 in 25) have food allergies. And that's allergies alone, not sensitivities or intolerances (like lactose intolerance). While a list of 8 foods cause about 90% of food allergies, who are you to judge what is a 'real' allergy. Obviously not a medical professional with the training to diagnose someone's immune disorder.
I've seen someone swell up like a balloon when a server didn't know the correct answer to if there was garlic in a dish. And personally, I'd love to eat raw tomatoes, but paying for that fantastic salsa with a blistered tongue is not a price I'm ok with.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
Canadian Sunshine could end up with a chronically frustrating life with this picky eater. In considering a long-term or even a lifetime relationship, you need to identify the features and characteristics in the other person and in your interactions which will eventually drive you nuts. In several areas of our life together that could describe my 45 years of marriage but he loves my cooking, most of which involves a big bowl or plate of homemade glop du jour. He is enthusiastic about every vegetable except brussels sprouts and turnips, both of which hit his "too-bitter button." I love to shop for food, cook food, share food with others, and eat it myself. Without a welcoming audience at home for my cooking, my life, which is rich in so many ways, would be much poorer. Canadian Sunshine should not settle for this picky eater. They are not compatible.
Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!
It depends of course on just how picky someone is but for the most part, yes it is a deal breaker. I mean someone with acid reflux is one thing or extreme lactose intolerence but when they are the type to special order everything every time they eat out I have no patience. Also I have no patience with "food alergy" person who seems to have an alergy to everything an adult should eat like mushrooms or spinach. Food alergies are very, VERY rare and some of the ones I've heard (garlic allergy, onion allergy) just do not exist. Nut allergies, shellfish allergies, these are real and they are dangerous but please don't tell me that you are allergic to tomatoes and then soak your fries in ketchup.
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The Apple brined/smoked turkey sounds really good, so we may do that. Beyond that the usual:
Mashed potatoes w/ roasted garlic
Stuffing
Scalloped yams with praline topping
Green beans almondine
Green bean casserole
Pumpkin pie
Apple pie
There are only four of us, so we keep it simple.