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The United States of Pizza: Arizona

Every time I make the Bianco trek I hear someone from Phoenix (usually someone not in line at Pizzeria Bianco) saying that Spinato's is the best pizza. Finally had it last time the day after a Rosa pie. Needless to say, it does not compare. It's good, but...c'mon. I'd recommend skipping the other pizza places in Arizona and getting a sandwich at Pane Bianco. The Grimaldi's outpost isn't that bad, either.

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If I Could Only Eat at One NYC Pizzeria (Other Than Di Fara), What Would It Be?

I haven't done most of these, but Joe's of Bleeker shouldn't be the other NYC pie. I liked even John's more, and Patsy's blows it away.

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Leftovers: The Day's Stray Links

Always love Metro, but I'm going to try Vegas Grimaldi's this time. Actually, I'll probably do them both.

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The United States of Pizza: Arizona

Every time I make the Bianco trek I hear someone from Phoenix (usually someone not in line at Pizzeria Bianco) saying that Spinato's is the best pizza. Finally had it last time the day after a Rosa pie. Needless to say, it does not compare. It's good, but...c'mon. I'd recommend skipping the other pizza places in Arizona and getting a sandwich at Pane Bianco. The Grimaldi's outpost isn't that bad, either.

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If I Could Only Eat at One NYC Pizzeria (Other Than Di Fara), What Would It Be?

I haven't done most of these, but Joe's of Bleeker shouldn't be the other NYC pie. I liked even John's more, and Patsy's blows it away.

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Leftovers: The Day's Stray Links

Always love Metro, but I'm going to try Vegas Grimaldi's this time. Actually, I'll probably do them both.

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Buddy's Deep-Dish Pizza in Detroit: Better Than NYC Pizza?

I was a Buddy's fan growing up in Detroit, a detractor after I caught the Neapolitan bug, and after a visit home last week and a rare Buddy's pie... a fan again. Buddy's has it's own thing going on: mounds of burnt cheese, a tasty but dense crust (almost like a tempur pedic pillow), sauce sweet enough to cut through the heft. It still doesn't hold up to the flavor explosions I get from the best pies, but there's something very homey and comforting about it.

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Bob & Timmy's Is the Fifth Best Pizzeria in the U.S.?

As usual, I'm with the Pizza Maven. Any credibility that list had died with Tomato Pie in Los Angeles, a so-so pizza in a so-so pizza town.

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Las Vegas: Grimaldi's Coal Brick Oven Pizza

Last time I drove to Bianco from LA I stopped at the Grimaldi's in Phoenix on the way home the next day. It was also really good (though I had just had Bianco the night before so that can't help but hurt the taste).

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L.A.: Mozza Expansion Means Take-Out Pizza and a Pizza School

We don't get a lot of good pizza news out here, but this sure is.

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Gridskipper's Map of Best L.A. Pizza

That list is sorely lacking. Obviously Mozza belongs but the pies there would make it on a best-of list for the nation. Vito's definitely belongs, Lamonica's is kind of okay... and the rest are overrated. Casa Bianca is a cardboard pie without the (admittedly good) toppings. Pizza Buona is greasy mom and pop. Mulberry is an expensive sham. Nicky D's is about as average as you can get for a wood-burning oven.

Where's Joe's of Bleeker? It's average in NYC, it's a revelation in Los Angeles. Village is inconsistent, but it's still better than the others. Antica Pizzeria belongs, even Bollini's -- if you catch them on the right night. For a city with so few good options for pizza, it's amazing that gridskipper missed so many of them.

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

@Daniel: I prefer Mozza's crust to UPN's, too, but I'm not a topping guy. If you're going for a basic pie I think there's a lot more flavor on the whole at UPN.

While NOT the case at Mozza, I think that toppings can sometimes be a crutch. There's a much-ballyhooed place in LA (Eagle Rock) called Casa Bianca that has this amazing sausage... but if you get a plain pie it tastes like cardboard.

BTW, what's your top 3 in Chicago? Thinking of doing pizza tour there.

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

That's a lot of pizza... Really great review, too. I think Mozza's great, but I find myself going less and less. It used to be once every couple weeks, now it's more like once a month. It's no fun to play rezzie games and the walk-in bar can get old when you're paying Mozza prices. More importantly, the pizza is a lot less consistent than it was when Nancy was behind the counter. I know she wasn't cooking, but she put some humanity into that assembly line. If you watch them making the pies now, it's just a speed game. That said, I don't think she (and I believe it's all Nancy -- zero Batali) ever figured out the sauce so the Margherita is lacking... and if you can't get by on sauce, cheese and basil alone, there is something off on the pie. It sure isn't the crust.

Also, it's strange, but that place usually does have lousy service (though to the guy suggesting to waiters that he's in the biz to get better service -- creepy, wrong and I imagine ineffective when dealing most humans with a brain).

Now I usually take my cash next to door to the Osteria, which actually does have great food and service. Maybe when Mozza opens their takeout shop next door I'll hit it more... but Una Pizza Napoletana and Pizzeria Bianco have it all over Mozza in craft and service/ambience.

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Bollini's Pizzeria Making Worthy Neapolitan Pies in Monterey Park, California

Dead on review, as usual. That's the thing about Bollini's -- consistency. I've been three times and had one great pie, one good one, and one lousy one. Pretty crazy to be inconsistent on the same visit though. BTW, that basil overload is nuts.

My lousy pie was accompanied by lousy service (by staff and chef) so I haven't been back in a couple months. That said, if you're looking for VPN I prefer Bollini to Antica.

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L.A.'s Pizza Wars: Joe's vs. Vito's

First off, I agree wholeheartedly with the Pizza Maven. I live a few blocks from Vito's and eat there 2-3 times a week. I'm a big fan of the sausage there and the pesto slices are pretty great (especially that ricotta), but the inconsistent sizing of slices sometimes has me questioning the prices. Though it has slid since the departure of Joe, I think Joe's pepperoni has more punch. Vito's recently introduced a fresh mozzarella pie, but it doesn't work. I usually like the sauce there, but it's not strong enough to balance out the fresh cheese. When you get a bite without mozzarella it tastes watery. Joe's fresh mozz is worth the drive for me. They're both about as good as you can get for NYC wannabes out here. Mozza, as stated, is in another class.

Couple new openings. Cristoni on Sunset. They got some Italian guy who is a master at the wood oven...and when he showed up they had already bought him a Baker's Pride. The crust is too thick and the bottom burns too easily. A real disappointment.

The other new place is Verazzano's on La Brea. Two brothers from Brooklyn and Staten Island opened up their very own place in LA... and it's okay. The sauce isn't as strong as it should be and the crust is hard and thick. That said, the toppings (and fresh mozzarella) were all universally good. Much better atmosphere than Cristoni and most other places out here.

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Pizzeria Bianco Mops the Floor with Mozza

If you hit a weekday, 4PM often works. Not for Saturdays.

Re: reservations. They do accept them, but the waiting list is 2-3 months.

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

@LA Pizza Maven: I'm glad someone can feel my pain, but I'm sorry it has to be you. At least we don't have any humidity. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on Vito's, they've been a little better for me recently, but I think the sauce is a little watery.

To those who were kind enough to share your favorites: Thank you. I'm already making a list for round 2.

Finally, thanks for the tenth time to Adam for The Slice.

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

I had Grimaldi's in Phoenix. Ed Levine reviewed them all "A Slice of Heaven" and wrote that the one in Phoenix was better than the NY branches. It was good stuff, but it wouldn't crack the top of what I tasted in New York.

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Pizzeria Bianco Mops the Floor with Mozza

Just got back from another visit. The Wiseguy is incredible, I was wrong the first time around. Fennel sausage like you've never tasted perfectly paired with sweet onions. Incredible. My revised order of preference is: Margherita, Wiseguy, Rosa, the White, Sonny Boy (salami and olives).

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Joe's Pizza in Los Angeles

I live a couple blocks from Vito's and hit it up once or twice a week, Joe's once every three weeks or so. Depending on what kind of pie you get, Vito's is on par with Joe's. The white pies are better than Joe's whites, but Joe's pizzas with toppings are better. Vito's doesn't offer a fresh mozz pie. Both of them are Baker's Pride places so don't get too excited if you're used to wood or coal.

I had Bollini's again (Monterey Park?) and was more impressed the second time. They have a wood oven, inconsistent service. Better than Casa Bianco, probably not as good as Petrillo's if you live out there.

Finally, I went back to Mozza after a big NYC trip and though the crust there still rocks (it has to be among the best there is), I now realize that it's the so-so sauce that keeps it from greatness. Of course the majority of pies there don't come with tomato sauce anyway, but still...

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Joe's Pizza in Los Angeles

Have to think of a better analogy than "holding a candle." Let's just say it wasn't close.

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Joe's Pizza in Los Angeles

I ran through a ton of NYC pizza over the 4th of July and just had Joe's in SM last weekend. The fresh mozzarella pie is pretty good and I've had about a dozen of them so I know what they're capable of there... but it couldn't hold a candle to anything I had in the city. Sadly. LA pizza is dead for me.

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Pizzeria Bianco Mops the Floor with Mozza

I've actually gone back twice and you're so right about the Rosa. Even funnier, it's my wife's favorite, as well. I kind of dragged her there and when we left she gave a 10 minute dissertation on why Bianco is a master.

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The United States of Pizza: Arizona

I wish that I had seen this prior to my trip to AZ. I visited La Piazza Al Forno and was sorely disappointed:
http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/

I would've loved to try these other places....next time.

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The United States of Pizza: Arizona

Lance: I'd heard the same thing several times from people recommending Spinato's, but when pressed, most of them admitted to never having been to Bianco.

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

I think Mozza is great. But I actually like the taste of the Pizza at Bottega Louie better. It seems more classic NY pizza then trendy Mozza and is much cheaper!

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

2 days overall, yes, but AM only requires 12 hours of actual 'rental' @ the new motorino. So I'd imagine it'd be the same as you remember...you lucky b**t*rds.
FP

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

@Pblogger since The Tatooed Uber-Pizzaiolo's dough does not require refrigeration, he can probably just bring it with him.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

Ah, but will Magieri be firing up his own sourdough 2 day dough or be using the Palumbino dough?

....that's what we wonder, yes

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

The crust on that UPN white pie look amazing. Simply f**king amazing. R.I.P UPN. I can hardly wait for the resurection on 10/10.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

I lived in NY all my life, then moved to Phoenix some years ago. There is NO substitute for NY pizza, but there are some pretty good runners-up. Pizzeria Bianco being a prime example. However, we have Grimaldi's now and I will tell you that pizza frozen from a box is better! Grimaldi's pizza is like tomato sauce on a wheat thin cracker. No give to the "crust", no oil, it BREAKS when you bite it! There is another pizza joint in Scottsdale which never gets any mention, too few know it's there, but it has true NY style pizza, so put this one down on your list to try: Joe's New York Pizza. The oil runs down your arm, the sauce is great and the cheese needs a sissor to detatch it from your mouth! And they even sell slices!

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Bob & Timmy's Is the Fifth Best Pizzeria in the U.S.?

Man, I don't know, Ed. They were really good. I haven't had many other ones on the list (Sally's, Frank Pepe, Totonno's, Santarpio's), so maybe I'm not too sure about top 5 pizzas. But I would say it's up there with Sally's and Frank Pepe, and way better than the one time I had Santarpio's (which I do need to try again, but for now consider far worse than Picco or Regina). Probably below Totonno's, but not by too much. It's a tough call, and one that I am definitely willing to research further.

For reference, here are the pizzas we ate.

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Bob & Timmy's Is the Fifth Best Pizzeria in the U.S.?

You're right. It could have been a bad day, airstrikemike. But were the pizzas you had worthy of being called one of the best five pizzas to be had in America?

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Bob & Timmy's Is the Fifth Best Pizzeria in the U.S.?

Just got back from Providence. We got one spinach and mushroom pizza and one half "Pizza II" and half four cheese. They were all really good. I was pretty skeptical after seeing some of the photos on their very own website, but was pleasantly surprised with the results. The cheese was all melted, they all looked really nice, and were well-made. No cold spots, nothing wrong at all. The pomodoro sauce had a little more oregano flavor than I care for, maybe, but hey. Maybe Ed just got it on a bad day? Or am I the only one here that thinks at all favorably about it?

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Una Pizzarino: Anthony Mangieri and Motorino's Mathieu Palombino to Form Pizza Supergroup for Pieman's Craft Events

I'm actually firing up my oven on Saturday Alberto. I'm doing a two day fermentation. I was going to go back to a one day fermentation, but I'm headin' right to Lucali after work and then to the Prospect Park Bandshell to see Buckwheat Zydeco. $3 suggested donation.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Una Pizzarino: Anthony Mangieri and Motorino's Mathieu Palombino to Form Pizza Supergroup for Pieman's Craft Events

I'd offer you some of the sicilian I just made Alberto - actually you'd be doing me a favour - I think I ate too much....all in the interests of 'recipe development' of course. ;-)

FP

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Una Pizzarino: Anthony Mangieri and Motorino's Mathieu Palombino to Form Pizza Supergroup for Pieman's Craft Events

Awesome. Thanks guys. I will try it this weekend and let you know how it works. I'm jealou you are firing up your oven tonight Paulie. I need some pizza!

Alberto
www.forzapizza.com

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Las Vegas: Grimaldi's Coal Brick Oven Pizza

@ikaloha Your Settebello recommendation was a good one. Thank you. Although Bianco was a tough act to follow, Settebello was definitely worthy of their VPN designation. Here's some visual proof:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliegee/sets/72157619306121088/

You may notice that the last pie looks a bit better than the first four in terms of the crust. That was a result of the oven temperature getting up to speed. That's what happens when you go there for breakfast.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Las Vegas: Grimaldi's Coal Brick Oven Pizza

Went to Grimaldi's in Vegas this past week. Really impressive pizza, an oasis in the wilderness for sure. Manager on duty was from Staten Island. Pizza connoisseurs who find themselves in LV should check this place out.

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Visiting New York City? 7 Must-Eat Pizzas You Should Try

Brooklyn has the original Goodfellas. Anything in that restaurant is worth the trip. Manhattan? A little, tiny place that is always packed: Patzeria on 46th between Broadway & 8th.

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Las Vegas: Grimaldi's Coal Brick Oven Pizza

Sorry, one person asked me about Bianco...I was there at 3pm. I was at Grimaldi's in Vegas at 11:30am.

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Las Vegas: Grimaldi's Coal Brick Oven Pizza

@L.A. Pizza Maven You were there at 11:30AM on a Tuesday and they were opened? Now I'm confused. When you got there at 3:30PM, what day of the week was that.

Thanks,

Paulie Gee

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

A sad truth about almost any wildly popular restaurant is that going on friday/saturday night will insure a suboptimal experience. Lunches, or mid-week dinners are wonderful at Mozza. The service is lovely and the food is sublime. But the idea of a weekend dinner there makes me shudder with dread. I've been burned by too many of my favorite places that suddenly went all Mr. Hyde on me because of the weekend crush. I can't even fault them for it. Saturday customers can be a little, ummmm, not interested in the food? Not you guys, obviously, but man can it get ugly.

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

I will have to try it and review it on my site soon when I am out there. But it appears from the photos that they use a butter glaze on the outer crust when cooking?

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

@minoric: You are correct that there is a pastry chef. Her name is Dahlia Narvae and she has spent years working for Nancy Silverton. I have no idea which of them created the desserts, but whoever did deserves every award under the sun. That said, I looked at this year's James Beard Award nominees and didn't see Narvae listed.

@Leah Greestein: I fully understand that things get busy and that creates a backup that can be that long. But, as I said earlier in the comments, the manager made it clear that she was talking about cooking time, which I do not believe. Also, it was clear that not only did our server not bump our replacement pizza to the front of the ticket line, he did not even put the order in close to right away. The result was not only an annoyed group of customers, but it also meant that we held the table for about 30 minutes longer than we would have, which hurts the restaurant.

@Lance Roberts: I agree about Bianco. Other than the crust, I think it is substantially better than Mozza. I disagree about UPN. For one thing, UPN does not do toppings and Mozza should get credit for what are, across the board, excellent toppings. For another, I thought the crust at Mozza blew UPN's away, though I'm biased in favor of crusts with a little more substance than a true Neapolitan pie can provide.

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Pizzeria Mozza Just About as Good As You've Heard

As a former Mozza manager, I can assure that the current manager was not lying about how long it can take for pizzas at the resto. They can only cook 7-8 pizzas at a time because of the size of the pizza oven and, during dinner, have more than 20 tickets on the line with multiple pizzas on each.

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Pizzeria Bianco Mops the Floor with Mozza

I completely agree. I have pretty much set up my life so I live within 10 minutes of the best pizza places in the country. My parents live 5 minutes from Pizzeria Bianco (which is great because we can go home during the 2.5 hour wait), now I live in LA 10 minutes from Mozza, and I went to college in New Haven. New Haven pizza is only good if you don't get too many toppings because then it becomes limp and soggy (although clam and bacon at Pepe's is totally worth the trade-off), Mozza has more innovative and complicated toppings than Pizzeria Bianco, but Pizzeria Bianco proves that sometimes less is more.

None of Chris's pizza creations have too many toppings for the crust to support and all of the flavors combine brilliantly (although when we get the Wise Guy, we get reg mozz instead of smoked because we all hate smoked cheese, no matter what Bianco might say). The Rosa at Bianco might be my favorite dish of all time, it is nothing short of culinary perfection.

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Last bite on earth: Pizzeria Bianco, Phoenix AZ